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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#107
I would like to join if possible. /in
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 14 2012 04:19 GMT
#895
zzz ... been reading for the last couple of hours and trying to catch up on what I missed. My first vote was just to see if there would be any reactions. A few more pages to go ...
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 14 2012 22:49 GMT
#1314
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=1100&topic_id=253716

With what Sandroba has said here. I approve of wanting to lynch him. Still thinking about what Protactinium posted.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=21688
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 14 2012 22:51 GMT
#1315
WTF ... Quote didn't work, whatever

On January 15 2012 03:28 Bill Murray wrote:
Ciryandor how have I not provided one name
I want to lynch Sandroba
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 15 2012 01:23 GMT
#1360
On January 14 2012 02:47 Protactinium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 15:22 Ciryandor wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.

LOL that's a good reason to get you voted in. Lynching someone for having an opinion.


What does this post do? Ciryandor does not attempt to clarify his earlier position or attempt to bring us into mutual understanding. Instead, he mockingly attempts to discredit me by misrepresenting my statement and reframing it in a way that paints him in a favorable light. I never say that I want to lynch him for having an opinion, I called bullshit on his statement that Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign. Seriously, if you really believe what you said, tell us why you thought Mr. Wiggles had the best campaign.

Furthermore, Ciryandor initially states that:

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On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


While Ciryandor says that he wants to hear good reasons for Wiggles/Cyber_Cheese running, he makes no attempt to draw out information from Wiggles even though it is clear that they are both online (they are both posting until page 24). Instead, he loosely dismisses my accusations as well as GGQ's, and proceeds to babble nonsense about Foolishness and Bill Murray.

Ciryandor is twisting my words.
Ciryandor is bullshitting that Wiggles has the best campaign.
Ciryandor shows no further interest in extracting information about Wiggles' campaign despite claiming he wanted good reasons.
Ciryandor continues to babble on about useless topics (Bill Murray) after giving a strange reaction to my/GGQ's accusations.

I've noticed that a lot of players are omitting my campaign for mayor in their lists of people running for mayor. But I'm not trolling. I am seriously running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor.


I noticed that also. What about this Ciryandor, have you forgotten about him or is he not as important at the moment? He hasn't posted much after you wanted to lynch him if you were elected.


On January 14 2012 20:02 Macpo wrote:
It's getting clear that Bill Murray is the way to go.

Mr Wiggles, a good town, but he just doesn't want to be on the stage too much, so I guess the mayor role doesn't suit him very well.

BC: way too unclear and risky for me; he is trying too much stuff, going for a thousand contradictory stuff, taking back what he said and so on.

Bill has shown a lot of presence, and has made reasonable analyses, plus he is not afraid. That's enough for me up to now, I think we won't have better than that.

To those complaining about me being rational, it's getting obvious that they prefer random one line crap to argumentation. I'll answer back when they'll meet my standards.

Also, I changed my mind on Cybercheese, as he opened my eyes on the the BC case.

To bill: some people here have NOT posted yet at all!! I feel fine about lynching sandroba, as he acts quite scummy, but I suggest that if you are elected, you lynch someone who has not talked yet. statistics we'll be that it is mafia.




Following what you posted, I feel that I cannot trust Bill Murray anymore.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 16 2012 02:04 GMT
#1660
On January 14 2012 22:58 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 14 2012 11:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm willing to vote bum for the fact that I like him right now. I think he's

Bum are you willing to lynch Palmar?

I'd be willing to lynch BC too if I continue feeling the way I'm feeling about him. But we'll see. Need more time on that, since BC is much harder to read than Palmar. Palmar's just like lolscum

woke up and I'm at this post.

Yeah I liked bum a lot too but I don't really like the people he likes


So you went from liking him to not liking him because of the people he likes.

On January 16 2012 01:52 Toadesstern wrote:
btw I'm not convinced risk.nuke is mafia at all :p

I'd gladly lynch scumdroba or bum. I think sandroba is more scummy however I am a little afraid that we might end up lynching a townie because BC might be a mafia too. If BC's a mafia I don' think sandroba is mafia.
Conclusion: I want to lynch sandroba. I'd rather not risk lynching BC so early and lynching sandroba is way better information for us while giving pretty decent chance to hit a red mine


Now you want to lynch him?

On January 16 2012 08:20 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 16 2012 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
@ Toadesstern:

Please explain why you find bumatlarge to be scummy.

Also, summarize your thoughts on Protactinium and sandroba while you're at it. I want to know things from you.



as promised (sry took longer because I completly forgot it ) about sandroba:
I don't like the fact that BC lynched Palmar at all. Sandroba was the guy who made BC lynch Palmar instead of whoever he wanted to lynch first. I asked BC and Sandroba to show me their pm logs, neither one did it and I don't like the coincidence of bc masoning sandroba although I have to agree that that one point probably is circular reasoning because I think it's something that makes bc scummy
Sandroba's budding with Palmar (without a reason) and with BC (without giving an explanation). Also he voted BC.

If you now look at what I posted about bum and BC you realize that there's a lot of mentioning each other within this circle of BC-Bum-Sandroba. I've got the feeling sandroba is trying to trick me/ us his picks and his style obviously is not helping at all.
My highest priority to lynch right now would be sandroba, followed by bum. I won't support a bc lynch although I think he's leaning scum for me right now because I'm not sure about my judgement of bc yet. I'd say he's got a 30-50% of flipping red instead of true 10 out of 50.


Yes you did say a little about it but all you have now is a feeling. Why did it go from people he trusted to just a feeling?

On January 16 2012 09:36 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 16 2012 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 16 2012 09:05 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 16 2012 08:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't agree that Protact has been giving town direction at all. Notice how absent they have been for the vast majority of the last 24 hours?



well yeah but he I consider him being right with some points about BC. I think the talk about masons was not good for town. We could have discussed something else as well, we had enough stuff (like who's acting scummy) and who we want to lynch.
BC kind of produced a mass claim. I still don't know if it's that bad but it certainly was not was he intended, at least not without discussing it but discussing it took way too much time when we needed to get a defined picture of our mayors.
So yes, protac posted very little, I am scared of him as well and I'd love him to be in no office at all. Still what he posted gave me town vibes.

What are your thoughts about sandroba, bum, bc and protac? I think I answered them good enough from my point of view.

[...]

Bum, I'm unsure of so far (haven't read through his posts thoroughly tbh). From the initial read I was getting, townish. However, I don't think I've given him as much attention as I should have. I will reread the thread again a couple more times with the flip in mind.

[...]

The thing about the Palmar flip is that it makes people like zeks, opz, and several others look bad. Lanaia looks bad as well; she has not commented on anything concrete and so far has had no scum reads. It looks rather similar to her play from XLVII.

At any rate, I still want thoughts from people on Protac and opz. Sandro/zeks/Lanaia thoughts would be nice too.

Yeah I had a town read on bum early on too. The scary thing about protac for me btw (because I did not explain why I called it scary) is that he looks townish to me but I can't realy put it down with words. I'm not trusting myself there at all because I don't even know why I got that townread, it just feels townish because I really liked the big post he did. Sure that' something but that' should not be enough to give me a townread when he's lurking so hardcorde.

Why does palmars flip make people like zeks or opz look bad? I'm going to be honest here: They're both a big blank note for me.


Go back to bum. Is he MAFIA or not? Can you explain more besides this "I got this bad feeling because so and so are together". I'd like to believe you but there is uncertainty for now. Is there also a possibility that one of them could be town led astray?

Still reading a day or two worth of text =\
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 16 2012 03:18 GMT
#1682
On January 16 2012 12:09 kingjames01 wrote:
Crap, pressed Enter accidentally.

blahz0r, you are attempting to justify your choice for tomorrow's lynch.

Since, you as mafia, NEED AN EXCUSE to vote, you just dug around looking for someone, anyone, to cast suspicion on. You're also not doing it very convincingly.

mafia: blahz0r


Justify what choice? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=66#1314 This is the only post where I have said anything about lynching someone. I'm just questioning him. I found it odd with what he said. I agree that I might not be doing it convincingly. Are my points not valid for doing so?

Also it's my first game. If something doesn't make sense, feel free to point it out.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 16 2012 08:10 GMT
#1739
How am I Mafia if I posted this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=68#1360 before Ciryandor the Mafia Goon was killed. Mafia would not bring up old posts of their own teammates to try to bring them back into the spotlight. It would make most sense for a town member to do it.

Kenpachi, I don't know who you are, feel free to go into depth about why you think I'm mafia.

kingjames01, from your last few posts, it looks like you're hopping around trying to move the discussion in all sorts of directions. I want to refer to BloodyC0bbler's post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=84#1661 . You sound like Mafia to me or some stupid townie just out there pointing fingers.

I'd like to also go back to this:
On January 16 2012 12:09 kingjames01 wrote:
Crap, pressed Enter accidentally.

blahz0r, you are attempting to justify your choice for tomorrow's lynch.

Since, you as mafia, NEED AN EXCUSE to vote, you just dug around looking for someone, anyone, to cast suspicion on. You're also not doing it very convincingly.

mafia: blahz0r

I am not justifying anything. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Lanaia: Is that it? You like the case on me, cool. All you provided is a list, a list by which you think who is who. Anyone can do that. Noting you down just in case people refer back to this post if I die.

I guarantee I am town.
If I die, I want everyone to look back on these guys.

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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 16 2012 12:11 GMT
#1757
On January 16 2012 18:30 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote blahz0r


Did you completely ignore my post? Seems like it.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 17 2012 03:44 GMT
#2058
On January 17 2012 12:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On January 17 2012 12:29 Bill Murray wrote:
I have 0 idea


THANK YOU!!!! FUCK!! WAS THAT SO HARD?!

@Town
I believed BM has scumslipped that there are 2 mafia masons and has been scrambling to cover up that fact. Go back and reread his last few posts and tell me if I'm just seeing things.


Are you still voting for lynch on sandroba ? According to the voting thread both you and BM are voting for sandroba, unless this has changed in the time I am typing this out. The quote says to me that you think he is mafia yet you both are voting the same person. Why is that?

I was skimming through while dota 2. Hopefully I didn't miss something important that contradicts what my opinion is of what just happened.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 17 2012 03:45 GMT
#2059
Just noticed BM has voted twice without unvoting...

On January 17 2012 10:07 Bill Murray wrote:
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler


On January 17 2012 11:42 Bill Murray wrote:
##Vote: Sandroba

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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 17 2012 03:47 GMT
#2061
Okay so I want to make sure I read this correctly. You do think Bill Murray is Mafia?
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 17 2012 11:36 GMT
#2140
On January 17 2012 14:53 kingjames01 wrote:
I have a long day tomorrow and it starts really early so this is going to be my last post for the night.

Town: kitaman27 was shot Night 1 which accounts for the last mafia KP. We can trust what he says without worrying if he's lying to us. He may be wrong, but he's pro-Town.



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On January 17 2012 14:37 kitaman27 wrote:
I find it interesting that masons are more interested in getting reads off the Sheriff than to have a chat with the guy that just got shot. Everyone is talking about how dangerous masons can be because of the possibility that one of the two players could be scum, yet nobody wants to take advantage of having a conversation without that possibility? I'm hurt

BM, there has been quite a drop off in your play from day one to day two. Do you honestly believe it is easier to identify a scum that will be shooting than it is to identify a town that will be shot? No more nonsense with your sheriff role please. I feel it was a poor decision to share the bodyguard identities, that will only lead to problems down the road. Your focus on masons concerns me and I'm having difficulty following you at times.

bugs, your current vote explanation is extremely weak. What happened to the Scamp case?

On January 17 2012 06:18 Slardar wrote:
I never said let's not scumhunt


Yet that's what your actions say. Do you care who gets lynched or are you just along for the ride? There are people in this game that have been so irrelevant, they're not even worthy of being brought up as lurkers. Cwave, BrownBear (?!), Munk-E, Slardar, rtgICEMAN, Maxella, igabod (or whoever his replacement was). You guys are harming the game by not playing. If you don't contribute, we're eventually going to get to a point where all the active players have been killed off and the only way to distinguish players is whether they made two posts or three. If your name is listed and you are town, please don't disappoint.

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Here are my thoughts about my lynch preference for today, L.

He never mentions a serious lynch candidate on day one. That is not one of his priorities.

His entire focus is on the election and discussing other trivial matters. His approach to the election is not to comment on the election candidates or share his opinion on them as individuals, but to discredit them in a broad sense. He explains numerous times how there is probably a scum within the frontrunners, but never indicates which one. He apparently has no opinion on BC's mason fiasco, nor ever mentions the campaigns of prot or BM. In addition, you go out of your way to discredit Foolishness on numerous occasions.

Instead of selecting one of the frontrunners, he supports VE with the following statement:

On January 15 2012 06:23 L wrote:
I'll vote for you if you figure out a snazzy plan to confirm that you aren't bullshitting about your role.


Obviously role has nothing to do with alignment. You even reference this fact later on in one of your posts. The goal of the Jack is not to confirm his role. Any means of attempting to confirm his role only takes away from his ability to use his role in a pro-town fashion.

Now on to your first actual scum suspect:

On January 16 2012 23:32 L wrote:
2) Short end of the stick is that Kurumi crumbed shooting Kenpachi yesterday and he's still alive. I wanted to wait to see if he'd claim being hit, but he hasn't. Veterans/Medic protected individuals on the town side would have claimed this asap. Kenpachi wasn't jailed, I was roleblocked. Given all of that, the only way I can explain him being alive after Kurumi's flip is that Kurumi's pretty overt crumb was a lie (odd, given that kurumi WAS a vig), or that Kenpachi is the mafia jack, or was saved by the mafia jack.

So uh, Kenpachi's my lynch vote for the day.


Essentially your entire argument comes down to Kurumi hinted that he might shoot Kenpachi. I find it incredibly odd that you have decided that it is more likely that Kenpachi was saved by the mafia jack, than it is for kurumi to have not shot last night. From my perspective, if the mafia team was truly worried about kurumi shooting kenpachi, they don't waste a JACK ability, they bury the roleblock with the kurumi hit. Essentially your explanation is that mafia decided to give up a kp (Jack role use) in exchange for being able to roleblock you. That's not something I buy.

##Vote L


kitaman27: Kurumi shot Ciryandor.

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On January 17 2012 13:45 kingjames01 wrote:
If no more information is revealed in the game, then this is what we know about the Night 1 actions.

Bill Murray incarcerated Lanaia.
mafia attempted to kill: Kurumi, Mr. Wiggles, GiygaS, kitaman27. They succeeded on the first 3 players.
kitaman27 survived the hit.
Kurumim shot Ciryandor.

Here are several posts showing that Kurumi believed Ciryandor to be mafia.

On January 14 2012 01:28 Kurumi wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:18 Palmar wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.


Hey I agree with this guy, so I'm voting him. I am very much a fan of killing Ciryandor.

Is the Ciryandor quote the classic "scumslip" or am I mistaken, since "waiting for Wiggles" then "Wiggles has the best campaign?" besides,
<generic things>
<vote for me>
is not good enough to earn a vote.


On January 14 2012 01:43 Kurumi wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:35 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:35 Kurumi wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:29 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 14 2012 00:53 kingjames01 wrote:
On January 14 2012 00:38 kitaman27 wrote:
KJ's bodyguards should claim plan is incredibly poor. So is Jackal's. Even if the scum team did subsititute all three bodyguards, they still have to worry about a electoral official being a vet, which would cost them 3 scum or that one of the bodyguards wasn't jailed, which would also cost them 3 scum.


First, there are only 2 Bodyguards.

Second, I agree with you about Jackal's comment about lynching a Bodyguard.

Third, you're actually agreeing with me in essence. I'm saying that if they sneak in a Bodyguard, it will be risky to take out the elected officials. However, to make it harder for them, they should be revealed from the beginning. What if both elected officials are killed and we have 0 clue as to who the Bodyguards were? Are you okay with that risk?

Finally, are you stating for the record that if you were elected, you would not reveal your Bodyguards?

And what is wrong with the threat of a lynch on a BG? If you don't think scum aren't going to try to sub in at least 1 of them as a BG you're being quite unrealistic. Just leave the threat of it out there.

We should not make Bodyguards claim.
Good to know that someone actually reads my posts Palmar, if You were given ability to kill someone right now, who would it be?


Ciryandor, for speculating about if sandroba or I were going for the mayor position.

You're consistent, good.
Given that that's a huge game and we've got no special means of removing lurkers, do You find it logical to have a decent amount of KP on town's side?
Do You think that Ciry will try to feign inactivity today?


On January 14 2012 20:21 Kurumi wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:18 Palmar wrote:
Day 1 has two goals, getting someone I want in office, and killing someone I want to kill. Incog and Ciryandor fit the bill, my work is done here.

Wait, You want Incog elected and Ciry killed or both of them killed?


and of course,

On January 15 2012 03:28 Kurumi wrote:
On January 15 2012 03:12 Ciryandor wrote:
Whew, finally caught up after 25+ pages. Seriously. I just got home from being away all day today and had a long day at work yesterday, and people think I'm a good lynch candidate, especially for like half the mayor candidates? That's just fine and dandy, but there are other players who fit the same criterion.

Some reads on players of interest:
I honestly think GGQ has just as bad a posting history as mine, and that he has escaped scrutiny by creating an FoS on me just because I was asking why I should be believing the early candidates like Cyber_Cheese instead of Mr. Wiggles during that time.

I also can't blame Protactinium for thinking I'm bad as well with my responses, but I wouldn't vote for him just because he thinks BC is scum, and he hasn't buttressed that argument since. As far as I've read, I think BC has townie interests at heart and is in the usual situation with leading mayor candidates, having a hard time justifying what he would do with the position beyond the Day 1 lynch power, but a point against him as well is that he has not delivered his mason partner, which he had decided to reveal in one of his posts.

Also, risk.nuke being suddenly defensive after some criticism of him making a half hearted push for mayor is IMO very newbie townie play, or a scum being baited to attract others' attention to him. This should be noted as I think risk is noob town who does not know how to defend his positions properly.

Just a question, where is Kurumi? At least sandroba has posted even if he thinks I'm scummy for asking if he's running, and Palmar has said he doesn't really care now about the vote; which is uncharacteristically sour of him. I read Palmar as trolling town more than scum because of that, as he would have probably given a token "I support someone because they're worth trusting" post (as that could influence newbies/lurkers) who see people commenting at him being a veteran voting that way at the very least if he were scum.

Finally, I have to note that Bill's post that it is likely we have a scum candidate among the front-runners leads me to think we should actually do a vote-swing to a random strong candidate, and that the votes for that person should come from people who have already voted, as IMO it is more likely for scum to have delayed voting to have more influence over the result in a close race and not waste votes in a throw-away push for their candidate if a runaway win were to happen. Right now I'm torn between Proact and Sandroba in voting, because at least they're concrete in promising ONE NAME to lynch instead of being wishy-washy in getting a list of targets up, and that I think they have plans for town after Day 1 that don't need to be publicized yet.

scum


From Occam's Razor I had already assumed that Kurumi was the vigilante responsible for Ciryandor's death. I recall encountering some doubt after the Day 2 Post. Also, I don't want the idle speculation about whether the mafia used one of their KPs on Ciryandor.

Finally, kitaman27: I read through your filter again but don't see an updated suspect list. Since I believe that you were targetted for death last night, I am very interested to hear who you would like to lynch Day 2.


I also believe L to be mafia and I'm glad that you agree.


You say we can trust what he says regardless if he's right or wrong. It's been uncontested that he was shot and took away one possible kill from Mafia. Not many people have posted about this.

Here's what my initial thoughts were:

What if he was lying about being shot and by chance the last mafia kill was prevented by something not mentioned in the thread. If no one contested this, this would cause issues later on as we would be trusting someone who is leading us in the wrong direction.

If he was town, there should not be any contest to this as any Mafia trying to would put themselves at risk.

Still thinking who I should vote =\
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 18 2012 01:53 GMT
#2317
Bill Murray's statements have been all over the place. Something feels wrong.

This one in particular:
On January 17 2012 13:53 Bill Murray wrote:
oh shit
rgshworz associative tell city
i'm voting macpo


On January 15 2012 18:59 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 18:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 15 2012 07:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 15 2012 07:00 Kurumi wrote:
Because Mafia elects roles on Night 1 (that's correct?) they have no special powers prior to Night 2?


Incorrect.


ahh
well, that's not what I thought, either
whatever, we can work with it, even if we don't have a confirmable PR yet

Our masons are truly expendable. Sheriff is a protective role. The person I lock up can't die at night. I can limit mafia KP that way, or I can tactically use it to lower their KP in another way, but where it would be hard to know whether or not they doublestacked, I'm not sure if I want to go that route, even if it was my original plan.

I am going to go ahead and post who I'm going to arrest before the night ends


Would you like to explain why the masons are expendable?
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 18 2012 04:20 GMT
#2350
Munk-E: Your post regarding Bill Murray made me curious

Here he says BC is town
On January 15 2012 21:52 Bill Murray wrote:
Town
supersoft
Cyber_Cheese
Toadesstern
Adam4167
Foolishness
Nisani201
EchelonTee
Jayjay54
L
Liquid`Sheth
kitaman27
BloodyC0bbler
Kurumi
p4NDemik
Meapak_Ziphh
wherebugsgo

Dont want to lynch:
VisceraEyes
Jitsu
Mr. Wiggles
~OpZ~
Ciryandor
Jackal58
hiro protagonist
GiygaS
BrownBear

Where have you been? Wouldn't mind lynching these lurkers:
igabod
zeks
evantrees
Chaosquo
Cwave
Slardar
rgTheSchworz
Scamp
glurio
rtgICEMAN
Maxella
blahz0r
GGQ

Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!:
Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito)
sandroba
risk.nuke
Munk-E
scumatlarge
Lanaia
Macpo
Mafia


In about 2 days, he gained some information about BC or is making stuff up...

On January 17 2012 10:07 Bill Murray wrote:
BC is mafia
I am voting BC
I have been masoned by 2 people, NONE OF THEM ARE OPZ OR BC


On January 17 2012 11:42 Bill Murray wrote:
2 people who are masons are mafia together
the sandroba lynch gives us a lot of information


Later he gives the names of the BGs to the two masons that "masoned" him.

Something is a lie here. If OPZ and/or BC are masons, which side are they on. There is no information given why he thinks BC is Mafia after initially stating he is town.

Did he give the names of the BGs to the mafia masons or to the town masons. No one has questioned him since that day about this. We don't know if the BGs are safe or not.

If someone has something relevant to this, please fill in the gaps as this is really bugging me.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 18 2012 21:12 GMT
#2436
On January 19 2012 04:30 GGQ wrote:
As day 1 was coming to close, Protact was leading the mayor vote and promising to lynch Macpo after already calling out ciryandor. It's possible he's scum bussing two teammates but that's not likely enough to be seriously considered at this point.

It's far more likely that the scum are players trying to distract from lynching these two on day 1, like wherebugsgo pushing hard on palmar all day, supersoft joining him, BC lynching palmar.


Looking at the KP formula. I think that wouldn't be a bad idea on Mafia's part.

Look at this scenario: He gets two of his teammates killed, that leaves 8/10 remaining. They have enough members to still kill every night and we fall into his trap of believing he is definitely town.

I think if he gets another killed, dropping the Mafia KP by 1, that he would be safely deemed town.

Still reading =x
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 19 2012 03:45 GMT
#2544
I think I agree with Protactinium's list of lynching Bill Murray but not sure who I want to vote for 2nd lynch.

The following was posted before his Night 2 post...
On January 18 2012 13:26 Protactinium wrote:
Ignore what I last said.

BM please incarcerate L.

Medics, protect Foolishness/me, obviously. Hopefully jailing L will -1 KP and deter the mafia from shooting Foolishness/me from lowered KP and the fact that medics could completely screw them over. If BM chooses to jail randomly again, then something is wrong.


Did BM do that? Does incarcerate only work on one hit? Need answers...
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 19 2012 03:50 GMT
#2550
On January 19 2012 12:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 12:45 blahz0r wrote:
I think I agree with Protactinium's list of lynching Bill Murray but not sure who I want to vote for 2nd lynch.

The following was posted before his Night 2 post...
On January 18 2012 13:26 Protactinium wrote:
Ignore what I last said.

BM please incarcerate L.

Medics, protect Foolishness/me, obviously. Hopefully jailing L will -1 KP and deter the mafia from shooting Foolishness/me from lowered KP and the fact that medics could completely screw them over. If BM chooses to jail randomly again, then something is wrong.


Did BM do that? Does incarcerate only work on one hit? Need answers...


Incarcerate means the target can't be targeted by ANYTHING. Period. ALL shots fired will fail, as well as DT checks.


Okay then I think Bill Murray should tell us who he incarcerated. This should give us a good clue on who we should be lynching/killing.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 19 2012 04:02 GMT
#2562
On January 19 2012 12:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually, Sandroba called out L. I'm unvoting him.


Hmm... Protactinium has Sandroba on his list but isn't one of two people for today's lynches. I'll read more into it.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#2825
Why did we vote for double lynch if we cannot find a suitable 2nd person to lynch for that day =x
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