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Mattchew
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Mattchew
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On January 11 2012 07:51 Liquid`Sheth wrote: So, I think we should all have to put L before every post in this game. So something like : L I think L is mafia in this game of Mafia L. Should help to remove confusion, provide a clear idea of which mafia this game is and annoy L. or have atleast one alliteration with l in every post L's lies linger as scum after that last long list | ||
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On January 12 2012 21:42 Bluelightz wrote: Above or Under 7 modkills? over | ||
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For Town For Scum | ||
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Thoughts: (stealing format from EchelonTee) kitaman I don't think that this is a bad campaign post and I actually liked what he said except for how he isn't the best town player. He just seems a little to passive and I don't think that he is the best person to vote for. bumatlarge-(also made a post here) If this was a smaller game or if we all knew each other and were all vets I would say his list of to-do's for blues was scummy. But this is a huge game, with a lot of new players that might be getting roles they have never had before. I don't like the "mason me!" but I do think that this is helpful to town. Other than the list his campaign is cookie cutter. Not getting my vote for mayor. Wiggles You want to play the game first and worry about being mayor second. Thats fine and good but will not earn my vote. CC Scum play is bad = vote me mayor. No thanks. Foolishness (for BM) I would like this a lot if there was evidence to support this. Would like to see some games from BM as town or where Foolishness caught on to him early, or both, and by or both I mean please link both examples. risk.nuke Another campaign starting with I am not a very good town. BM Seems pro-town. Still want evidence from him or foolishness on previous games because that seems to be the base of their campaign BC He is the best candidate in my opinion. Strong leadership, confidence and experience. sandroba "I get shot early alot and Im decent at scum hunting." It will be great to have you on the town team and if you do well scum hunting hopefully you get a medic. But this isn't the leader I want with 3 votes or a jailing ability. VE I think I still want a vet in office. Sorry, maybe I end up looking stupid but keeping someone who is proven to be better than others for town alive is a priority for me. Meapak The second strongest candidate behind BC. Proven vet and already active. He is also honest, he says "i want the protection". I feel like scum would shy away from saying something like this. | ||
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On January 14 2012 02:30 Jayjay54 wrote: 4) Cyrandor C’mon guys give this guy a break, he made a couple of bad posts and claimed something wrong (kitaman), but isn’t this exactly the kind of stuff the mafia is looking for to blow up? Not saying he’s town, but it’s way too early to claim that he ain’t. It’s ok to be suspicious, but to lynch him right away? Nah… Wtf is this? Never give a break to someone you believe is scum. Push them until they prove otherwise. The threat of getting lynched is one of the strongest tools we have as town. | ||
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On January 14 2012 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote: All right - consider lynching Palmar as part of my platform. If you elect me to office, I promise to lynch scumPalmar as my first act. You said you wanted your first lynch to be a town decision? Where is this logic now? Not that this is scummy just shitty mayor play | ||
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On January 14 2012 04:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: If i am a red mason it means whoever claims i masoned will be town, period. I would never have to mason a scumbuddy as well, im already talking to them. WIFOM Otherwise, Do you think that all masons should claim like you have? Assuming atleast 1 mason would be mafia it could lead to a high percentage day 1 lynch | ||
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On January 14 2012 04:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote: how is that wifom? Why would I as red ever out myself and another mafia in the same day? Especially when if i had used my mason somewhere else i would be counterclaimed and die? It would mean i would have to hold onto my use and have a scumbuddy claim and thus waste my own power to corrupt a townie? It is pure logic, not wifom. As for masons claiming? Things like this are what my claim were supposed to generate. Forcing people to only post in the thread for instance is a huge deal as it removes a scum form of play, etc... It is WIFOM because there is no way of confirming your alignment or that of who you mason regardless of either one of your alignments. Based on what you have said the possible outcomes are You are town and die, the person you mason'd is a null read because you cant know for sure what alignment they are. You are Scum and die, you mason a town -> we think the mason'd is town You are Scum and die, you mason no one or a scum (kind of redundant) claiming to mason said scum team member -> we think mason'd is town If you are town, survive, and the person you mason dies as town, we have a null read on you If you are town, survive, and the person you mason dies as scum, we should have a town read on you If you are scum, survive, and the person you mason dies as town, we have a null read on you If you are scum, survive, and the person you mason dies as scum, we should have a town read on you. If we are to believe what you say and you survive day 1/night 1 as scum mason and you claim a teammate, you become more and more powerful because you can then start masoning townies to further confirm your role. | ||
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On January 14 2012 05:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: so? I confirm my role not my alignment. I have openly said it never clears the alignment of who I mason. How is this an issue? You knew this going in. I have a confirmable role not alignment. I said that in my first fucking post on this matter. I put myself in a hotseat all to out the potential butt fucking the mafia would give. As for your WIFOM shit, i never once said you can confirm people I mason, you proposed that. You created your own argument on something I never said. Town should base their read on someone based on how they act in thread, not on the knowledge of "a mason mason'd this guy so hes legit/scum yo" You will get a town read on me based on my actions. If i mason a scum, in pms he slips up and he dies and flips red because i outed his slip up I look better than I do now but am no way confirmed. If i do it multiple times maybe. Where did I say that i am confirmable alignment? where did I say the person i mason is confirmable. My role is nothing else is. I still have to prove my alignment via posts just like everyone else. I am merely opting to fubar the mafia while im at it. On January 14 2012 04:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: If i am a red mason it means whoever claims i masoned will be town, period. All I am saying is that this is not true and you saying that it is, is WIFOM. I am not saying that you said your role is confirmed, I am saying that there is the realistic possibility of you or any other claimed mason to be scum and claim to mason scum | ||
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On January 14 2012 05:47 Kurumi wrote: Cool. I suppose You're going to try to confirm people through PMs, since fishing for blue roles is not something needed for a Town mason, right? Yeah, that's what everyone should just say open in the thread if it happens. Anyway. If You get elected we get very strong both town and scum player in the office, also You're really good in PM manipulation. The risks as for me, are still 50/50. If You're scum, we're fucked, if You're not, they're fucked. so is it safer to have him not in office in your opinion? | ||
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On January 14 2012 06:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote: masons rely on their ability to read people and read posts to get a good view of someone. Catching someone in pms is not as easy as everyone thinks it is and historically towns have town far more retarded things there than good. this. 100 times over. There is a greater chance scum misleads masons then there is masons catching scum in pm's. | ||
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On January 14 2012 06:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Disagree. Maybe I put too much faith into the town's collective ability to think coherently but I maintain that it is easier to catch a scum via PM then it is for a townie to be mislead by scum. you are putting too much faith in town. Look at wiggles mini mafia and XLVIII (best examples with this many new players), also both games I was apart of | ||
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On January 14 2012 07:01 Liquid`Sheth wrote: They haven't stated their activity will be waning. No just switching to lynching Cir wouldn't cause me to switch my vote. If you believe there is a greater chance scum misleads town, do you think this applies to talking in the thread as well? Why would you post that Mattchew? Its all about thinking things through and not using WIFOM. You and BC are both using things that aren't applicable to this game. This isn't a past game and this game is all about thinking, its not obvious that one side or the other will be able to deceive their opponent. Its about who thinks and acts the best for their side. Because its power in numbers. The scum is a team, we are individuals, 10 heads are better than others. The smart safe play is assuming that pm'ing scum and scum pm'ing is more dangerous to town then vice versa. | ||
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On January 14 2012 07:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is an interesting conversation, you haven't convinced me but some good points have been brought up. What happens if a mason chooses not to claim when you all order them to? Do you lynch him the second he comes out on the policy of LaL? I just feel like this whole plan is very shortsighted. And on that note I'd like to get back to the mayor/sheriff discussion. The last thing we want is to get completely sidetracked day 1. Bc's claim created good discussion and created a lot of material however we need to refocus and get done what needs to be done. I still support BC to be my sheriff, however given that a lot of people are nervous of him because of his claim I'd like to remind people that Kita is my second choice. If you can't bring yourself to vote BC then vote kita. He's made some good points and he's probably best option behind bc. I'd really like to hear from L right now. He's the only really good vet who hasn't checked in yet and I'd love to hear what he has to say about mayor. who is you? (curiosity not accusatory) | ||
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I am running for Mayor. I believe you should vote for me because I am confirmed town. How? Let me explain. I am a mason who used my first "masoning" on Foolishness. In the past I have proven not great at this game both as mafia and as town. I also have not been a good listener to scum team advice when it is given to me. So the odds of a scum team picking me to be their mason is slim to none. Also, the fact that I pm'd arguably the best townie player in the game should prove in itself that I am town. I am not a vet or a well regarded player, why would any scum team even consider the thought of letting me either a. (if foolishness is also scum) claim to PM one of their best players and spotlight him or b. (if foolishness is town) let me PM one of the best townies and maybe get myself caught. This is logic. Why should we vote you if you are bad? A. I am confirmed town. This is by far the best reason to elect me. B. I would become a roleblock immune, mason, with either 3 votes (mayor) or a jailing ability. C. The fact that I am a mason allows me to solicit advice on my actions behind closed doors from veteran players. While I obviously will be extremely skeptical in everything they tell me, it is better than a Mayor acting purely on his own. I will not be manipulated because I will present the options and ask their opinions on them. I will not be asking broad questions, yet specific questions to leave little to no room for scum influence. What is your stance on Mayoral Issues. I will be active.[/b] I can read and respond while at work. Monday - Friday I should be on and reading from 13:30 GMT (+00:00) to 04:00 GMT (+00:00). Saturday and sunday I will be reading and responding while watching football but as the day progresses I will probably be getting more and more drunk, around 03:00 GMT (+00:00). The standard obligatory "I suck at scum" I currently am looking at 3 candidates for the day 1 lynch and will be open to discussion on all 3. Those 3 are (in no particular order) Ciryandor, Mapco, Chaosquo is also good. I am now open for questions for the next half hour or so before company arrives at my house and I will be offline until 16:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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On January 14 2012 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote: stop trolling and answer me this: do you think Palmar is mafia? this aint a troll | ||
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