EPT@WBG I asked for that too. He shouldve done it way earlier. but it seems to work either way hes got a lot of votes.
@toad, so you say because he hasnt got any support he's town? because no one has support yet except of BC-...
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
@WBG I asked for that too. He shouldve done it way earlier. but it seems to work either way hes got a lot of votes. @toad, so you say because he hasnt got any support he's town? because no one has support yet except of BC-... | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
Right now, I'm leaning town on you. I've seen you manipulate townies before in PM as scum, and in light of that, your mason claim makes it seem like you're more likely to be town. I don't see a benefit for a scum BC to claim mason, when it puts a lot of pressure and suspicion on himself, when instead he can just win the election and use his secret mason role to manipulate townies. Instead, you're going to be forced to pretty much claim your target every day, and anyone you talk to is instantly going to be more on guard after all the discussion today. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, BC when are you claiming who you masoned with? I'd like confirmation about your role. Right now, I'm leaning town on you. I've seen you manipulate townies before in PM as scum, and in light of that, your mason claim makes it seem like you're more likely to be town. I don't see a benefit for a scum BC to claim mason, when it puts a lot of pressure and suspicion on himself, when instead he can just win the election and use his secret mason role to manipulate townies. Instead, you're going to be forced to pretty much claim your target every day, and anyone you talk to is instantly going to be more on guard after all the discussion today. let's get this straight right now, so we don't have to deal with this later: BC's mason claim is NOT reflective of his alignment in any way, shape, or form. If he's scum, people saying "oh yeah his mason claim makes him more likely to be town" and then voting him are exactly what he wants! Good scum take calculated risks like this, and this very well could be a calculated move to get the mayoral position. Since the mason claim is not indicative of alignment, please do not suggest that it is, because such a suggestion is not even close to conclusive or useful. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
WBG: Are you like, convinced of Palmar's guilt? His play has been null as fuck if you discount any meta, which is what I've forced myself to do at this point. It's D1 after all, and there are better D1 lynches in my opinion. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:28 Toadesstern wrote: nono it's better. There's plenty of people who don't have support. VE and BM are the only ones a lot of people think is a bad choice! his campaign doesn't really radiate confidence. wouldn't take it as a towntell... other than that: /sleep <3 | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:30 wherebugsgo wrote: let's get this straight right now, so we don't have to deal with this later: BC's mason claim is NOT reflective of his alignment in any way, shape, or form. If he's scum, people saying "oh yeah his mason claim makes him more likely to be town" and then voting him are exactly what he wants! Good scum take calculated risks like this, and this very well could be a calculated move to get the mayoral position. Since the mason claim is not indicative of alignment, please do not suggest that it is, because such a suggestion is not even close to conclusive or useful. yeah that's what i keep saying. Or at least I tried to. I see his claim as reasonable in some situations and it's it could be good for both, townie and mafia BC. I'm pretending that mason never happened at this point in time, I'd also like to leave palmar for d2 to see what changes. It's not like he's going to run away and if he's still behaving like that, fine lynch if. For the time being we got some better candidates to look at imo. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:35 Toadesstern wrote: yeah that's what i keep saying. Or at least I tried to. I see his claim as reasonable in some situations and it's it could be good for both, townie and mafia BC. I'm pretending that mason never happened at this point in time, I'd also like to leave palmar for d2 to see what changes. It's not like he's going to run away and if he's still behaving like that, fine lynch if. For the time being we got some better candidates to look at imo. no, screw leaving people till day 2. If he's useless now he'll be useless day 2. Kill him. I couldn't care less about veterans and usefulness later on or all of that bs. If you're a vet and I think you're scum day 1 I want you to die day 1. Palmar fits this perfectly. Just look at his filter if you don't believe me; he's had a full day (and by EU time it was an actual day, I've only had about 6 hours worth if you compare) and all of his posts have been one liner marginal content bull. He also refuses to respond to any sort of pressure and has been completely incapable of any sort of scumhunting. He's scum. Just kill him. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Mattchew For Mayor! You heard it from me first! No I am not giving up on my campaign for the one and only BILL MURRAY. Rather it has come to my attention that my other client, the esteemed Mattchew the Mason has decided to run for mayor as well! How do I know my client is a mason? Duh! I have only been talking to him all day long! And he will come in shortly to confirm that! Of course he has chosen to done this because he thinks it is best for him to claim mason. I am not sure how I personally feel about the other mason's claiming but I can tell you this: Mattchew is most certainly a town mason and not a mafia one, and the both of us think he will be perfect in office. You should obviously be taking this with a grain of salt, but if I thought Mattchew was actually a mafia mason I'd be saying so right now in a very "haha sucker!" sort of manor. Since I'm not you can be sure that I have done my analysis and confirmed that he is innocent (and I encourage everyone to do the same based on his thread posts). That said Mattchew has my full support in getting into office. Let's face it, none of us what to get screwed over in the event that BC is mafia. The thought of BC laughing hysterically after the game is over at playing us all for fools is not something that sits right in my stomach (not that I think he's actually mafia, but better safe than sorry right?) Thus let's take a more simpler approach and vote a mason who we know will be giving his all and not screwing us behind the scenes! Mattchew For Mayor! | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:38 Foolishness wrote: Mattchew For Mayor! You heard it from me first! No I am not giving up on my campaign for the one and only BILL MURRAY. Rather it has come to my attention that my other client, the esteemed Mattchew the Mason has decided to run for mayor as well! How do I know my client is a mason? Duh! I have only been talking to him all day long! And he will come in shortly to confirm that! Of course he has chosen to done this because he thinks it is best for him to claim mason. I am not sure how I personally feel about the other mason's claiming but I can tell you this: Mattchew is most certainly a town mason and not a mafia one, and the both of us think he will be perfect in office. You should obviously be taking this with a grain of salt, but if I thought Mattchew was actually a mafia mason I'd be saying so right now in a very "haha sucker!" sort of manor. Since I'm not you can be sure that I have done my analysis and confirmed that he is innocent (and I encourage everyone to do the same based on his thread posts). That said Mattchew has my full support in getting into office. Let's face it, none of us what to get screwed over in the event that BC is mafia. The thought of BC laughing hysterically after the game is over at playing us all for fools is not something that sits right in my stomach (not that I think he's actually mafia, but better safe than sorry right?) Thus let's take a more simpler approach and vote a mason who we know will be giving his all and not screwing us behind the scenes! Mattchew For Mayor! stop trolling and answer me this: do you think Palmar is mafia? | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
So, I'm going to side-step all this mason talk a bit because I have never played a mafia game with this role. I don't know whether it is stronger in the hands of town or in the hands of mafia etc. The only thing I'll say about it is that mass-claim sounds like a really bad idea to me. Whatever power (that I have yet to see in action) we take out of the mafia's hands we give them more in that they have an even better picture about town structure and where other blue roles may lie. I'd like to discuss who I'm going to support for mayor but honestly all of this mason talk has completely sidetracked my thought process while reading and now I'm gonna have to go back and go through filters. Before BC came out as mayor I have to admit I was leaning towards his corner but now I'm going to reassess everyone's candidacies before I cast my ballot. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:38 wherebugsgo wrote: no, screw leaving people till day 2. If he's useless now he'll be useless day 2. Kill him. I couldn't care less about veterans and usefulness later on or all of that bs. If you're a vet and I think you're scum day 1 I want you to die day 1. Palmar fits this perfectly. Just look at his filter if you don't believe me; he's had a full day (and by EU time it was an actual day, I've only had about 6 hours worth if you compare) and all of his posts have been one liner marginal content bull. He also refuses to respond to any sort of pressure and has been completely incapable of any sort of scumhunting. He's scum. Just kill him. I know I looked into his filter and I already said bc that palmar just looks over the top useless. I don't know if this is some weird trick of his (calling it now: BC masoned palmar and they're both tricking us!) or if he's just useless because he's mafia. What he said is way too scummy to actually happen d1 for palmar if he's playing serious. So imo this is wifom about wether he pretends to be useless therefor making us think way too much to actually be mafia or if he pretends to be useless for whatever trick he is trying on us this time. Alll I'm saying is we've got a decent chance figureing him out d2 and I'm not completly sure we going to hit a red when lynching palmar. If he continues to troll him insta lynch him d2 and go for someone else d1. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I am running for Mayor. I believe you should vote for me because I am confirmed town. How? Let me explain. I am a mason who used my first "masoning" on Foolishness. In the past I have proven not great at this game both as mafia and as town. I also have not been a good listener to scum team advice when it is given to me. So the odds of a scum team picking me to be their mason is slim to none. Also, the fact that I pm'd arguably the best townie player in the game should prove in itself that I am town. I am not a vet or a well regarded player, why would any scum team even consider the thought of letting me either a. (if foolishness is also scum) claim to PM one of their best players and spotlight him or b. (if foolishness is town) let me PM one of the best townies and maybe get myself caught. This is logic. Why should we vote you if you are bad? A. I am confirmed town. This is by far the best reason to elect me. B. I would become a roleblock immune, mason, with either 3 votes (mayor) or a jailing ability. C. The fact that I am a mason allows me to solicit advice on my actions behind closed doors from veteran players. While I obviously will be extremely skeptical in everything they tell me, it is better than a Mayor acting purely on his own. I will not be manipulated because I will present the options and ask their opinions on them. I will not be asking broad questions, yet specific questions to leave little to no room for scum influence. What is your stance on Mayoral Issues. I will be active.[/b] I can read and respond while at work. Monday - Friday I should be on and reading from 13:30 GMT (+00:00) to 04:00 GMT (+00:00). Saturday and sunday I will be reading and responding while watching football but as the day progresses I will probably be getting more and more drunk, around 03:00 GMT (+00:00). The standard obligatory "I suck at scum" I currently am looking at 3 candidates for the day 1 lynch and will be open to discussion on all 3. Those 3 are (in no particular order) Ciryandor, Mapco, Chaosquo is also good. I am now open for questions for the next half hour or so before company arrives at my house and I will be offline until 16:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote: stop trolling and answer me this: do you think Palmar is mafia? this aint a troll | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
If he's town he'll actually put in effort. This is not WIFOM because if he were town he would not want to confuse us. He would be clear about establishing himself as a townie and the "WIFOM" you speak of wouldn't exist. Honestly there is no WIFOM, the only possibility for Palmar at this point is scum. Since you keep saying let's keep him till day 2, I assume you have a better candidate for us to lynch? Why don't you give us that candidate? If not, then let's lynch Palmar, not? Why wait a day and waste a lynch that will potentially hit a townie instead of just killing the almost certain scum in Palmar? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already. Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them. BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no? @meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake. Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:38 wherebugsgo wrote: no, screw leaving people till day 2. If he's useless now he'll be useless day 2. Kill him. I couldn't care less about veterans and usefulness later on or all of that bs. If you're a vet and I think you're scum day 1 I want you to die day 1. Palmar fits this perfectly. Just look at his filter if you don't believe me; he's had a full day (and by EU time it was an actual day, I've only had about 6 hours worth if you compare) and all of his posts have been one liner marginal content bull. He also refuses to respond to any sort of pressure and has been completely incapable of any sort of scumhunting. He's scum. Just kill him. Thank you. I don't know why people are willing to give obvscum til day 2 to get their act together. | ||
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