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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 19 2012 04:29 GMT
#2593
On January 19 2012 13:24 Jackal58 wrote:
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On January 19 2012 13:21 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:18 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:16 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:05 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:00 bumatlarge wrote:
I think BM has some explaining to do. Jackal, why did you shoot L if bill was supposed to jail him? I don't think that would refund your shot?

##Vote: bill murray

Because BM won't do anything he's asked to do.


If a player is incinerated, and vigilante uses his shot on said person, does the bullet return?

You are on thin ice. But for L to be actually killed would require a vigilante to use the same logic you do. And you would probably use that logic too. So for now I believe you.

It's INCARCERATED
Not incinerated.
Not incarnated.


I called my shot Bum. What do you have issues with? RPGs?


no i thought you were very likely scum. Perhaps I need to review BC more closely.

Start here - Why did Proact want BM to incarcerate L? Read his filter but with Foolishness and Proacts.
Not one of them I could call scummy individual. But they are all 3 legs of the same milk stool.


I don't think that is entirely true. Foolishness and protact I agree with, but BC feels like a much shorter leg then the other three. Why would you not call him a scummy individual?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 19 2012 06:23 GMT
#2620
Meapak is clearly scum. His GGQ push is just one big crutch for him. Just read his last two posts.

##Vote meapak_ziphh
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#2711
On January 20 2012 04:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On January 20 2012 03:50 jaj22 wrote:
On January 20 2012 02:25 kingjames01 wrote:
On January 20 2012 00:24 jaj22 wrote:
@Lanaia: You want Bill to blow up two of Foolishness/Protact/BC?

What? Do YOU want Bill Murray to blow up two of those 3? Analyse Foolishness and Protactinium for yourself. They ARE and HAVE BEEN pro-Town from the beginning. Until that changes they should not be targetted.

That was my point. I should probably make those clearer.

On January 20 2012 02:25 kingjames01 wrote:
What about Protactinium's latest post don't you like? Analyse it for us and tell us what you think.

Ok. I forgot about a couple of bits that I was fine with, so my statement was inaccurate. Here goes:

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
GGQ is cool.

On January 18 2012 13:12 GGQ wrote:
Yeah so I hard defended macpo because I thought he posted like I did when I was new.

It's probably better to vig me tonight instead of wasting a lynch.


Mafia don't send out reminders that they defended mafia.
Mafia also don't ask to be vigged, since they can't influence vigs, but they certainly can influence lynches.
Nobody lynch him today, keke?

I covered this in another post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13201470

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
BM. In contrast to BM's day 1 posting, his day 2 is abyssmal. Its also become less frequent too, which exactly fits my prediction if he is mafia, as his mafia play deteriorates rapidly (for cross reference, TL Mafia XXII where he is the mafia GF). And yes I should be one to know this read as I was mafia with him in that game.

This is absolutely true except that BM had a really spammy patch in day 2, so I'm not too sure about the frequency point yet. In TL Mafia XXII his post count crashes at the end of day 2 and stays low.

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
Toadesstern
On January 19 2012 10:56 Toadesstern wrote:
I'd actually willing to lynch BM + GGQ tomorrow. I still think my case is good but I don't like the arguments of the people joining me :p
However I don't like the people telling me it's wrong either because there's nothing they got to say.
The only ones I like right now are people you are not commenting it at all but that's not helping me at all :p


Filter all of Toadesstern's posts. Search for all instances of GGQ. Confirm that Toadesstern has never made a case on GGQ, and has in fact been preventing his lynch all yesterday. "I still think my case is good"? Lol. Bullshit. See a trend here?

Also combine with my pressure yesterday, which showed that Toadesstern somehow knew what happened behind the scenes with sandroba influencing BC with Palmar's lynch.

What? Toad was trying to protect his scumbuddy GGQ and get his scumbuddies Sandroba and Macpo lynched instead? I don't buy the Palmar lynch influence knowledge point because it's quite plausible that Toad just jumped to a conclusion. I don't think it's even an illogical conclusion from the "compromise" post.

I'm guessing this is a pressure case because Protact can't get a read out of Toad's filter any more than I can

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
Sandroba. Again, abyssmal day 2 posting compared to day 1. The case totally makes sense if you consider that Toadesstern somehow knows what goes on between sandroba/BC. As for explanations related to Ciryandor, yeah, mafia usually don't do that. But they do avoid pushing too hard where they can avoid it. Sandroba was never a viable mayor candidate, never votes for mayor (neutral, I suppose, but he doesn't vote for the person who brought up the Ciryandor case - read: me), and influences the Palmar lynch. Over Ciryandor, the person whose death he has supposedly been calling for all game in thread. Combined, these points outweigh his in thread support of Ciryandor. I know I vocally said he was town yesterday. But I lied. I only said that because I needed to get macpo lynched first lol.

I thought Sandroba's day 2 posting was better if anything. At least less trolly. Which mayor candidate was going to lynch Ciryandor? I thought Protactinium settled on Macpo. The Palmar lynch influence is a red mark but there was a plausible narrative based on Sandro's posts in the thread and the mason log.

Still not sure about Sandroba personally. I found a couple of his other town games: His LotR (town) filter looks much like his scum play, which this game does too, but his Mini Mafia X (town) posting was vastly superior. Actual care and effort put into posting. If he doesn't raise his game here I'll consider voting for him.

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
bumatlarge. His apathetic posting and general lack of enthusiasm is strikingly different from his usual active town play.

This meta-read is beyond me. Any other vets want to comment on Bum?



I would agree with the meta read on bum primarily because he actually tries to contribute to town discussion and scumhunting when he is town. So far he (like most players in this game) has done very little.

Bum also tends to shy away from spotlight when he is scum. This is very unlike his play, for example, from steamship or any other game where he is town.


Wut? I don't shy away from the spotlight -_-! I wasn't able to post as much as I would like, but I keep up with the thread and stay active. There is little doubt in my mind that bill and meapak are scum.

On January 19 2012 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On January 19 2012 15:23 bumatlarge wrote:
Meapak is clearly scum. His GGQ push is just one big crutch for him. Just read his last two posts.

##Vote meapak_ziphh

Hey bum glad you decided to start playing.

Actually let's just get this out of the way. Can anyone who is suspicious of me please vote for me now? I'd like to get a headcount so I can address all your concerns. I've seen my name thrown out a couple times and I'm baffled so if you'd just do that we can put this to rest once and for all.

Now bum. You say my case is one giant crutch. Do you agree or disagree with my case? Why is it a crutch? I've shared plenty of other reads. True I haven't persued any to lynch but that's because I feel GGQ is the best option. I already promised that tomorrow I would have an analysis of opz. Other than a spat with toad I've helped keep the thread on track. Besides, GGQ isn't the only thing I've posted a lot about. I've also worked against lynching protact and sandroba. You call me out for being willing to vote with protact/foolishness. Why not? They've collectively called out three confirmed scum and I agree with the majority of their reads. Is it scummy to agree with someone who's making sense?

Now let's contrast that with you bum. You've done nothing since day one. You ran a halfassed campaign for mayor, you were missing from the discussion yesterday. Other than me what are you reads? You don't even have a proper case against me, just a lame little "clearly scum becuz crutch" which as I've pointed out makes no sense. Please reread the thread and figure out what's going on bum because at the moment you have zero credibility.

Alright next!


I'm happy to have struck a chord. GGQ is more or less irrelevant compared to you. I would make an effort to assess GGQ if you flipped town. As I seriously doubt that, I don't think GGQ would be a great bus at this point, so I would go with town if you are scum. GGQ is still in a bad position if you flip before him, so I would argue against his lynch.

If my posts really look like I'm not putting effort into them, I'll try harder to better them. meapak's post does nothing but make me more suspicious though, so as far as I'm concerned at the moment, he's the best lynch.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 19 2012 22:27 GMT
#2714
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On January 17 2012 11:56 bumatlarge wrote:
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On January 17 2012 11:15 Foolishness wrote:
On January 17 2012 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
EBWOP: I forgot to add Macpo to the FoS list.

Pretty interesting how you just mentioned Macpo now and decided to (almost) ignore him completely from the start of the game.

In fact I find it very very very interesting that you make a lot of posts like these...
On January 17 2012 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nope hiro, we're lynching GGQ today. You don't have a very strong case against sandroba and neither do any of the other jubjubs calling for his death right now. We lynch GGQ today, tomorrow we lynch any of the people who have popped out of the woodwork to defend him.

Also for those viewers who are keeping track back home, I'm working my way through the filters of the players I talked about in my post last night, I should have something on who is who in a few hours.

...while choosing to ignore a lynch candidate who is under attack from arguably the 2 best scumhunters in this game.

Hey Incog, I found another mafia!


Bingo. Through day 1, when people were going on about being distracted, I started thinking on people who were abusing this to no end, getting their fingers in every pie, and takng zero risk in putting themselves out there.

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On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

I don’t like Kitaman because he says he’s not the strongest town player and I want to elect the strongest mayor possible. He also cites his activity as a reason to be elected but like I said earlier, everyone should be active. Kita does say some good things, if the people who I consider stronger players than kita don’t run or look scummy to me, I’d not be opposed to having kita as my sheriff.

Bum is a really bad vote. Insane 2 is a good example, another good example is responsibility where kita (the mafia) almost convinced him to mislynch. My point is that bum can be swayed and isn’t the most reliable person to have for mayor. I want a mayor who I can be sure will not be swayed by mafia. Also, I really dislike bum claiming (or at least hinting) blue.

I don’t like Mr. Wiggles, his reasoning is basically, “every mayor post will sound the same so vote for me.” While it’s true that mayor posts do sound similar, they put the candidate in the spotlight, and even if the candidate doesn’t get elected, they still have to play by the values they espoused because they publicly said that’s how they’d play.

Just because Foolishness is good does not make Bill Murray a good vote. While foolishness is known for random trolling in the first few days, this is just completely ridiculous. While it’s great that BM says he wants to scum hunt and all, I want to elect someone who I’ve seen evidence of good scum hunting and I haven’t seen that from BM (in fairness, I didn’t have the greatest opportunity, however I’m still going to stick with players I know are good).

Risk.nuke does the same thing as kita and says he isn’t the best townie, he also says he’s lost interest a few times but swears he won’t do it this game. Famous last words… No offense risk but this isn’t very compelling.

Protactinium has one post saying he’ll lynch ciryandor. Not very compelling, maybe that’ll change when he posts more.

Out of all the candidates so far, BloodyC0bbler is the one who made the most sense and I would vote for to be my sheriff. He and Bum are both claiming to do a lot of the same thing, however bum (as I said before) can be swayed and manipulated. BC also willing accepts the spotlight which is good and he doesn’t over promise what he can deliver. Bum talks about organizing the town, BC says what he’d do. Subtle but important difference which means without further ado:

##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

I’d love to have you be my sheriff :D




Now after all that let’s get to why I would make a good mayor. For one thing, I am a good scum hunter. I can claim credit for at least two scum lynches and two successful vigi shots in a recent time frame. My town play is extremely solid and you can count on me to be analyzing and posting throughout the game. While I hate to use this as a reason since I ragged on people earlier for doing it, I’d also like to point out that my scum play is pretty atrocious as evidenced by my
performance in the last pyp game.

As mayor, I will be constantly scum hunting. Now mayor doesn’t magically give a license to scum hunt, I'll be owning scum hard whether I'm elected or not, it’s the protection I’m looking for. I would like to be able to kill as many scum as possible and that’ll be difficult if I die night one. Electing a mayor is a lot about choosing who will survive the nights, that’s why it’s important to have a townie AND a good player because the longer that player can survive the better. This is why a) I don’t want to vote for people who consider themselves only middling town player and b) why I want BC to be sheriff.

Anyway, those are my reasons for getting elected, now on to scum hunting. I’d like everyone to take a quick look at these posts by GGQ:

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:22 Ciryandor wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.

LOL that's a good reason to get you voted in. Lynching someone for having an opinion.


Your posts have been very bad so far.


On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.


On January 13 2012 15:32 GGQ wrote:
Also voting for BM because he is BM is really dumb. He should be treated like any other player, we don't need metagame arguments/discussions about him clogging up the thread. Don't vote for him, stop discussing him until he posts, then talk about his posts. Thanks you.


These two posts are extremely bad for town. The first one is bad because he just calls out these people without giving a reason for why their posts were bad. If you’re going to call people out (as I’m doing right now) say why you’re doing it. In fact I’d like to make that clear real quick: If you are town, give reasons when you call people out. There’s absolutely no reason not to share your thoughts. The second post is bad because it contradicts itself and is pretty useless all in all.

Nisani does the same thing:

On January 13 2012 16:18 Nisani201 wrote:
All the mayor candidates suck.

Although Nisani later clarifies this post as to why he doesn’t like the candidates, it would have been way better if he had just done that in the first place rather than make a blanket statement.

Please please please refrain from making these sorts of posts. If you’re gonna say something is bad, tell us why. This goes for everyone and it’d be great if we had a game where everyone explained stuff when they posted it. Also while we’re on the topic of bad posting, please keep these sorts of questions (@such and such, who do you think about so and so?) to a minimum. They serve no purpose. Questions are powerful tools when used correctly; however mindlessly asking people random questions is a great way for scum to appear active and contributing. So let’s as a town just agree not to do this mkay.

I don’t have much else to say at the moment. In anticipation of all the “@Mayor candidate: who would you lynch and why?” posts I’ll just say at the moment I’d lynch GGQ based on what I wrote above, however it’s only like a few hours into the game and not everybody has even checked in yet so I think it’s too early start calling for people’s deaths. However, now is a perfect time for:

FOS: GGQ

Gonna match actions to words.

K I’m going to sleep. I’ll be around tomorrow so I’ll address whatever comes up then.


Reading this again, I can't really find a bigger offender of this then meapak. Especially for a vet, he hits all the safe keys (dropping down his vote and his suspicions). I'll bold more examples of "safe keys".

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On January 14 2012 05:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Wow lots happened while I was asleep Alright let's talk BC's claim.

BC's claim is actually pretty brilliant in my eye and here's why. Before claiming, BC was easily one of the top three candidates for mayor if not the top one. There's little doubt in my mind that BC would have gotten one of the elected positions. Now he could always claim once elected, however that's not a pressure position. He's got bodyguards and immunity from dt checks so there's no danger of dying if he's town, or being found out if he's scum.

However by claiming mid day like this it instantly puts a HUGE amount of pressure on him. All eyes are on him at the moment and his every action is being scrutinized. This is an extremely tough position to be in as scum. And so it begs the question, if BC is scum, what is the motivation for claiming like this? He had a great chance at being elected so why mess that up as scum?

With this claim BC is willingly taking the spotlight and the scrutiny. While he may be scum and have the biggest balls I've ever seen, I find it far more likely that he is doing his best to demonstrate his good intentions by willingly going on the hot seat. In conclusion, I can only think of town motives for claiming.

currently MIA: L, now would be a good time to start posting.

Things that are bad in a townie way: Palmar, I don't think you're scum but I'd appreciate if you put more effort into the game.

Things that are bad in a scummy way: People calling Palmar scum. Palmar is making himself a really easy target with his blatantly bad posting, it doesn't take much to call someone who's posting like him out. It's people trying to score townie points by looking like they're standing up and acting town when in reality they're just going after something that costs them no skin off their back.
Note this doesn't apply to people who have simply asked Palmar to play better (like me lol) I'm instead talking about the people who were like "zomfg lynch palmar."
On January 14 2012 18:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
mkay wow a lot happened. I just wanna address the Mattchew candidacy.

This is a tough call. On one hand, it is possible that mattchew is town. But the only evidence we have of this is foolishness's word, and with foolishness's actions so far I don't put too much stalk in it. For one, I find it really odd that foolishness would out a blue role just like that, he should know better than that. Another reason is that mattchew seems way too eager to claim confirmed town. At this point in the game it's impossible to know. There's a very real possibility that scum would mason foolishness to try and find out if he's on to them. Ultimately though, trying to determine mattchew's alignment comes down to WIFOM which could get endless.

I would feel better about the whole mattchew thing if he took his position and tried to play protown with it however most of his posts since announcing his candidacy have been talking about how he is confirmed which he isn't.

Anyway at this point I still feel pretty good about BC despite protact's analysis. Other people who are making sense atm are kita and to a lesser extent WBG. I disagree with WBG that Palmar is scum, I thought I knew what Palmar was trying to do with his bad posting but if he doesn't come in and capitalize on it within the next 12 hours or so I'll be more inclined to think he's scum.

I would still love to see L post, I also want more out of GGQ who has done absolutely nothing so far, in terms of lynch I still feel very good about GGQ because I think he fits the lurking scum profile. He's been in the thread but his posts have not been protown and since I'm the only person who seriously called him out he's been able to slip into obscurity.



There is no content in meapak's posts, unless he specifically prefaces his posts to do so. I'm pretty sure that's a little scum-habit, because I don't remember seeing any of this in responsibility, but he was a sub for chezinu. Why didn't we make foolishness mayor lol?


GGQ is not a big voice in the thread. I think, at best, he is worth a DT or vig hit at the moment. Someone like bill murray is worth a lynch, or someone like meapak

I'm honestly curious why you think he is town this game. I really think he is outright lying about catching any scum this game. Also, I'd like to call under question BC's alignment. I don't think GGQ would be as great an indicator as meapak. If meapak is town, then I oubt BC is scum. I find the opposite to be very likely if meapak flips scum.

It's roughly all I have at the moment -_-, so I guess people have provided stronger analysis on other players to be lynched. I just want to make sure people know where my fingers are if something happens to me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 19 2012 22:32 GMT
#2716
If you really think VE is scum at this point, we might not be in as good a position as I initially thought
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 01:31 GMT
#3153
So we are ok with lynching sandroba the townie and not meapak the scum? And we are jumping off BM? Not if I can help it. BM and kingjames are extremely reasonable lynch choices, but sandroba instead of BM sounds like scum work. I'm especially surprised at Protact. It seems like extremely selfish to just stop lynching someone because they say they have a bomb on you. I would like an actually good reason to take my vote off of BM aside from the off chance that you would die. I have had very little doubt that BM was scum this game even after all the votes piled on to him. But protact's stunt has me guessing. I'd like thoughts on this, because I'm not sure if it's better to actual lynch BM and call him out on this, or to not lynch him because he has a strong likelyhood of being town. DO NOT LYNCH SANDROBA.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 01:34 GMT
#3157
Yeah I just saw that :/ well I can't really argue against that. If sandroba's scum well then good, but if he's town I TOLD YOU SO.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 02:20 GMT
#3184
On January 21 2012 11:15 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 21 2012 10:57 p4NDemik wrote:
Toad it seems pretty clear to me he had just missed reading the new post. He reference's Protact's gambit but has nothing about this dt news. Mafia wouldn't ignore this.


I am very well aware of that fact. Still if sandroba flips red there's bound to be a couple of mafias that are not willing to lynch sandroba. But there's no good in discussing this right now. I should not have brought it up at all, I just wanted to make sure you guys all look at stuff like that and try to take notes of who is and especially WAS voting who. That's going to be crucial information after the flip.


Meh I think it's worth saying, I really think sandroba would have been a much more serious mafia. If he's mafia, I'll take whatever FoS comes with that. I just think jumping on to him from BM speaks volumes about our town.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 02:30 GMT
#3186
On January 21 2012 11:23 p4NDemik wrote:
VE sorry that you are getting lost in the shuffle but you have to keep it in check you aren't building credibility by going nuclear here, just look at kingjames for an example of what that kind of posting gets you.


Mhmm... /stinkeye
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 03:16 GMT
#3232
Not what I was expecting
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 03:57 GMT
#3260
On January 21 2012 12:50 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm not taking a bomb off
I'm either putting another bomb out, or jailing to try to protect someone like a medic like if someone like Foolishness was just a townie, I could jailkeep them for 2 nights to guarantee they get to late game. That is more valuable. I am 50% protactinium is scum based on the election - it's either him or BC. I'm not moving that bomb, unless we're lynching BC.


While I have my suspicions of protact as well, I am fairly sure BC is scum from sandroba flipping scum. If BC is scum, Protact is pretty assuredly not scum. Give this a bit more thought BM.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 04:05 GMT
#3263
And for those who are suspicious of me, it feels deserved. I made a bad read and banked on it. I don't think it hurt the town at all, so I'd implore you to look at it from my perspective as a townie. The 3 vets switching from BM to sandroba was the right call, and my neurotic side did not like it. I'll try to improve my play to whats expected of me soon. No more dumb factors
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 04:07 GMT
#3264
On January 21 2012 13:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
No you're moving the bomb. The only reason you're not dead right now is because you had the town by the balls with your bomb. Leaving the bomb confirms the idea that you made up the claim to save your life. If you want to be protown you will move the bomb. Yes that means people may try and lynch you tomorrow however you have my word I will not lynch you until both bombs are placed (and they're where I want them).

Move it to brownbear tonight or you die tomorrow (yes you die ahead of GGQ *gasp).


Why brownbear? I know you said I should be the other target, so I'd prefer it be him, but I didn't see anyone explain why BB is scummy?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 21 2012 04:17 GMT
#3267
On January 21 2012 13:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On January 21 2012 13:07 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 21 2012 13:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
No you're moving the bomb. The only reason you're not dead right now is because you had the town by the balls with your bomb. Leaving the bomb confirms the idea that you made up the claim to save your life. If you want to be protown you will move the bomb. Yes that means people may try and lynch you tomorrow however you have my word I will not lynch you until both bombs are placed (and they're where I want them).

Move it to brownbear tonight or you die tomorrow (yes you die ahead of GGQ *gasp).


Why brownbear? I know you said I should be the other target, so I'd prefer it be him, but I didn't see anyone explain why BB is scummy?

BrownBear has done F all this game, he shares the antipathy trait found in every mafia killed so far. Why bother lynching when you can bomb? The reason I said him over you is because you suddenly got a lot more active so maybe there's hope for you and also because I feel like lynching you would be a better death since if you're scum I have a feeling they'd be pretty desperate to save you given the hits they're taking.


:D
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 03:49 GMT
#3433
Well this should be a humdinger of a day.

@kita
Yeah OpZ mason'd me.

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Original Message From ~OpZ~:
I think VE is scum

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Original Message From bumatlarge:
ur pushin it bro lol

Meapak is pretty assuredly scum, I'll post something in a bit.

Original Message From ~OpZ~:
lol

You said you wanted to be mason'd, so I did.

Who you think is scum, scumatlarge, messin with you :D

Original Message From bumatlarge:
I swear if another person says that word I will punch them through the internet. Well, I'm glad you mason'd me, but so far you are the only one who has. Why did you, not to sound ungrateful.

Original Message From ~OpZ~:
Hey look it's scumatlarge


I didn't get to respond to him after that. Sorry Opz, left you hanging. I still hold on to meapak being scum, with GGQ having flipped town.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:19 GMT
#3670
@pandemic

I think you need to re-think your process here. BC is not a priority because we aren't sure he is scum. BM is VERY LIKELY to be scum, across the boards. Seeing protact flip town really makes killed any skepticism I had on BM being town. The BC lynch has not arrived at the station yet, so stop running around the tracks shouting "ITS COMING COMING I CAN SEE IT" when the bill murray lynch is parked on your leg. BM now, maybe BC later.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:22 GMT
#3672
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.


I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:25 GMT
#3673
Oh, he was roleblocked? Lol hiro, something you want to tell us buddy
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:43 GMT
#3677
On January 23 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:
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On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.

Oh, well he should give the name, and that person should confirm he is just vanilla. That seems pretty obvious. If I got a check on a medic or same thing, I'd probably say the same thing as hiro.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:52 GMT
#3681
On January 23 2012 08:38 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 23 2012 08:25 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, he was roleblocked? Lol hiro, something you want to tell us buddy

he was rb'ed n3 if I understood it correct.

Found sandroba n1
Found a blue n2
roleblocked n3

Obviosuly I don't know if he checked sandroba n1 or n2 (neither do I know if he claimed which night it was by heart). If he did not check roba n1 it's vice versa. Nevertheless, don't tell the name

On January 23 2012 08:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 23 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:
On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.


One less VT to shoot is one shot more likely to hit power roles.


im not sure if this is intentionally bad reasoning or not...
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