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On January 20 2012 05:20 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 05:15 Lanaia wrote:On January 20 2012 05:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
at this point it's pretty damning of kingjames to be so fervently pushing a random lynch we've never heard of.
Granted, this is exactly what he did in XLVIII, just always pushing random people who never had a chance of being lynched. Knowing this, though, it becomes hard to determine whether he is actually scum or just playing like he normally does
At this point I don't care because I don't think kingjames is the best kill for today. I'd much rather we kill BM and Toad. Do you think BM is lying about hatterism? Toad's bothering me a bit. He keeps asserting himself as town because he's pegged people correctly. It's gotten to the point of overemphasis. Tell me, guys, is this typical of town? To me, it feels overeager. How I usually hunt scum is by looking for people who are overeager. Toad is one of these people. Gut is yelling at me to lynch him. But gut alone probably will get me into trouble (as it has repeatedly before). I'm voting Slardar. I'm also going to vote GGQ because this has been a long time coming and I feel it is in our best interests to do so. you actually believe his claim? Honestly I don't believe I've found one thing that BM has said this entire game that makes a shred of sense.
As for Toad, yes, it's very atypical for townies. Why the hell are you voting slardar? Have you even had a scumread on him? Just use logic and common sense and build a case on Toad instead of voting random people.
He never makes any sense. That's the joy of playing with BM. I'll entertain the thought that Macpo was bussed hard by his teammates and by that line of reasoning I could vote for a BM lynch. But lynching him because he makes no sense makes no sense. Foolishness, Proactinium (At least the Incognito half), bumatlarge and BloodyC0bbler all know this. If BM flips red I shall have to reconsider everything I'm thinking so far in this game.
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On January 20 2012 09:23 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 08:38 GGQ wrote:
I think there's more that enough on BM to justify a vote right now.
The second vote is trickier, I'm considering supersoft and p4ndemic, but I'm not enthusiastic about lynching kingjames. No one seems to have noted that cyber_cheese's activity level is sharply decreased this day phase, which only furthers my suspicions of him.
Not that this determines his alignment one way or the other, but can WBG confirm that supersoft did, in fact, mason him? wait wtf how do you know supersoft masoned me?
On January 20 2012 07:22 supersoft wrote:
pandemik. I am not mafia. I admit, that my activitylevel is poor. But that has to do with my role: I am mason.
I claim right now, because scum already has that information. I masoned L yesterday and he refused to talk to me.
He was never online when I was.
With that information it's quite easy for you to know who I masoned Day1. It obviously was WBG and we talked a lot about Palmar. Obviously.
From now on I'll be more active in the thread. Promised.
Game is easier if you actually read it. 
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On January 20 2012 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jackal, I'd actually like you to weigh in on this: you came in and apologized for your 'bad play' up until this point, justifying it with 'I have a gun yo I didn't wanna get shot!'
Would you consider my putting you on the lynch-list justified for the (succinct) reason I gave in my pre-dawn post? Would you consider my reasoning to be "OMGUS"?
Everybody puts me on their lynch lists on day one. Everybody tells me to "do something" on day one. I've yet to figure out wtf to do on day one. Unless I'm scum. Then I know exactly what to do.
I called your reasons for voting Mapco on day 1 scummy. I still think they were. Later during the night phase I appeared on a scum list you posted that included town reads and others you saw as scummy. I did not at that time nor do I now see that as something I would call a classic OMGUS. But I'm not the one you have to convince. That would be Jay Jay.
Atm I am still leaning towards scum with you. However I am also wondering if I am pulling a GMarshall and defending every scum player coming up for lynch. This game has way to many people openly connected with each other at a very early stage for me to believe they are all scum. Yet if those connections started to become apparent to me on day 3 or later I would have no problems with calling them all out as scum. And I'd be right most of the time. But I have never seen a game start like this before. It is confusing me. Sensory overload I suppose.
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On January 20 2012 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
You still do? In spite of the fact that, by your request, I went and looked for myself and found analysis that HAD NOT been touched on before? Do you consider that to be scummy? Because I mean, calling me out on something is one thing - but the reaction should hold just as much weight as the action in my opinion - because they are independent actions anyway. As scum I'd have a whole plethora of choices available to me - is the fact that the choice I made, to go look for myself, find information on my own, bring that to the thread BEFORE he flipped scum and stick with it scummy to you?
And furthermore, I couldn't care less about "convincing JayJay"...it's town I have to convince. JayJay is attempting to discredit any scumhunting I've done by reducing it simply to OMGUS when that's just clearly not the case. No one's biting, and for that I'm thankful - but I don't want that kind of ridiculous nonsense IN THE THREAD because it's very obviously meant ONLY to discredit anything I say. Notice how JayJay hasn't even come forth and said whether he thinks I'm scum or not? He put me on his watch list. I put him on my LYNCH list...because I think he's scum, and because I want him lynched. The only reason I don't have a vote on him is because he's VERY NOT on any of the influential townies' radar yet. YET. I have a feeling he'll be up there soon enough though.
Chill man. I'm just observing now. For what its worth I see about 20 people as scummy right now.
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On January 20 2012 10:21 jaj22 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:
I defended palmar and everyone wanted him to die. I thought you are town and everyone else thinks you're mafia and now out of the sudden everyone thinks you're fine.
Because Jackal, in his own words, superderped for two days. Since (almost certainly) shooting L, he's played properly. Thinking he was town before he shot L is suspicious. Show nested quote +I am pushing sandroba instead of other people.
I could literally be the town moron. I want to see sandroba flip so badly for that purpose. I mean is there anyone having a problem with lynching sandroba at this time? Anyone? Apparently Sandroba doesn't have a problem with this because he hasn't posted for two days.
No it isn't. Many here recognize my play on day one as being next to useless.
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QUOTE]On January 20 2012 10:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I've got to vote kingjames, even if I have a townslip from him;
I KNOW I'm a mad hatter, he could be a townie
sandroba needs rope really badly
My one bomb is on Protactinium, so when I'm lynched, I guess he's coming with me
My Night 1 was jailing Lanaia, and then I was going to fake that I "derped" on the next 2 nights
Why else would I jailkeep N1? It was a bad idea in retrospect, but I thought I would either die N1 if BC was mafia, or I would have until BrownBear and Kitaman were alive.
Cwave masoned me yesterday
Jitsu masoned me yesterday
one of BC or OpZ are probably mafia
GG guys I'm dead in an hour if you all don't unvote and there goes the sheriff[/QUOTE]
You make no sense. Ever. And we have another 24 hours.
On January 20 2012 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 10:30 Jackal58 wrote:On January 20 2012 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
You still do? In spite of the fact that, by your request, I went and looked for myself and found analysis that HAD NOT been touched on before? Do you consider that to be scummy? Because I mean, calling me out on something is one thing - but the reaction should hold just as much weight as the action in my opinion - because they are independent actions anyway. As scum I'd have a whole plethora of choices available to me - is the fact that the choice I made, to go look for myself, find information on my own, bring that to the thread BEFORE he flipped scum and stick with it scummy to you?
And furthermore, I couldn't care less about "convincing JayJay"...it's town I have to convince. JayJay is attempting to discredit any scumhunting I've done by reducing it simply to OMGUS when that's just clearly not the case. No one's biting, and for that I'm thankful - but I don't want that kind of ridiculous nonsense IN THE THREAD because it's very obviously meant ONLY to discredit anything I say. Notice how JayJay hasn't even come forth and said whether he thinks I'm scum or not? He put me on his watch list. I put him on my LYNCH list...because I think he's scum, and because I want him lynched. The only reason I don't have a vote on him is because he's VERY NOT on any of the influential townies' radar yet. YET. I have a feeling he'll be up there soon enough though. Chill man. I'm just observing now. For what its worth I see about 20 people as scummy right now. Jackal I need you to do more. I need to to be the leader that BC refuses to be. I need you to be the leader that Liquidia deserves, but hasn't needed until now. Jackal I need you to be the goddamn Batman. BC is taking it to PMs and not leading shit. He promised he'd be transparent and easily read if we elected him. HE PROMISED JACKAL!
Ya I know. But hey he was gracious enough to give me another day to prove myself. I'm assuming he's at work right now.
He's on my scum list. Actually he tops it. If he didn't have body guards I would have shot him last night instead of L.
I'm positive one of either BM or BC is scum. Hell perhaps both. I'd rather lynch BC today instead of BM but I don't see that happening. His Mason claim is suspect. His reasoning for it even worse. All he accomplished was to allow scum to control masons. Scum have masons too. His direction of blues is scummy as hell. BM makes no sense but he's not trying to guide town over a cliff.
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On January 20 2012 10:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I've got to vote kingjames, even if I have a townslip from him;
I KNOW I'm a mad hatter, he could be a townie
sandroba needs rope really badly
My one bomb is on Protactinium, so when I'm lynched, I guess he's coming with me
My Night 1 was jailing Lanaia, and then I was going to fake that I "derped" on the next 2 nights
Why else would I jailkeep N1? It was a bad idea in retrospect, but I thought I would either die N1 if BC was mafia, or I would have until BrownBear and Kitaman were alive.
Cwave masoned me yesterday
Jitsu masoned me yesterday
one of BC or OpZ are probably mafia
GG guys I'm dead in an hour if you all don't unvote and there goes the sheriff
You make no sense. Ever. And we have another 24 hours.
On January 20 2012 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 10:30 Jackal58 wrote:On January 20 2012 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
You still do? In spite of the fact that, by your request, I went and looked for myself and found analysis that HAD NOT been touched on before? Do you consider that to be scummy? Because I mean, calling me out on something is one thing - but the reaction should hold just as much weight as the action in my opinion - because they are independent actions anyway. As scum I'd have a whole plethora of choices available to me - is the fact that the choice I made, to go look for myself, find information on my own, bring that to the thread BEFORE he flipped scum and stick with it scummy to you?
And furthermore, I couldn't care less about "convincing JayJay"...it's town I have to convince. JayJay is attempting to discredit any scumhunting I've done by reducing it simply to OMGUS when that's just clearly not the case. No one's biting, and for that I'm thankful - but I don't want that kind of ridiculous nonsense IN THE THREAD because it's very obviously meant ONLY to discredit anything I say. Notice how JayJay hasn't even come forth and said whether he thinks I'm scum or not? He put me on his watch list. I put him on my LYNCH list...because I think he's scum, and because I want him lynched. The only reason I don't have a vote on him is because he's VERY NOT on any of the influential townies' radar yet. YET. I have a feeling he'll be up there soon enough though. Chill man. I'm just observing now. For what its worth I see about 20 people as scummy right now. Jackal I need you to do more. I need to to be the leader that BC refuses to be. I need you to be the leader that Liquidia deserves, but hasn't needed until now. Jackal I need you to be the goddamn Batman. BC is taking it to PMs and not leading shit. He promised he'd be transparent and easily read if we elected him. HE PROMISED JACKAL!
Ya I know. But hey he was gracious enough to give me another day to prove myself. I'm assuming he's at work right now.
He's on my scum list. Actually he tops it. If he didn't have body guards I would have shot him last night instead of L.
I'm positive one of either BM or BC is scum. Hell perhaps both. I'd rather lynch BC today instead of BM but I don't see that happening. His Mason claim is suspect. His reasoning for it even worse. All he accomplished was to allow scum to control masons. Scum have masons too. His direction of blues is scummy as hell. BM makes no sense but he's not trying to guide town over a cliff.
I was talking to my wife while I was typing this. I see BC is here now.
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Hey BM - Did you tell jitsu who the body guards were??????
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On January 20 2012 11:22 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2012 10:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I've got to vote kingjames, even if I have a townslip from him;
I KNOW I'm a mad hatter, he could be a townie
sandroba needs rope really badly
My one bomb is on Protactinium, so when I'm lynched, I guess he's coming with me
My Night 1 was jailing Lanaia, and then I was going to fake that I "derped" on the next 2 nights
Why else would I jailkeep N1? It was a bad idea in retrospect, but I thought I would either die N1 if BC was mafia, or I would have until BrownBear and Kitaman were alive.
Cwave masoned me yesterday
Jitsu masoned me yesterday
one of BC or OpZ are probably mafia
GG guys I'm dead in an hour if you all don't unvote and there goes the sheriff Wait what. This is nonsensical and silly. Why on earth do you have a bomb on Protact if you're MH? I thought you had a town read on him, or was I just imagining that?
Hi BB. Where ya been?
And yes it's nonsensical and silly.
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On January 20 2012 17:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
One random thought I did have though. Since two vigs flipped last night, we can't prove it was Jackal who shot L.
I called my shot before the day post bro.
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On January 20 2012 21:48 risk.nuke wrote:We have plenty of good targets. I'm going to analyse a few players today. Example rgtSchwors, Kingjames and Slardar. For now Bill Murray is the one obvious choice. He is just desperate to survive another day I don't buy his MH claim. It's too impossibly stupid to be true. And there is much bullshit in his posts. Toad gained some early townpoints with me which is why I don't want to lynch him today, + Show Spoiler + I'd prefer not to post the post but I will if requested. . On the other hand I don't buy his vet claim and he has never been correct with alot of reads before which makes me suspicious of him. I'm leaning not lynching him but not by much,
So is outing the body guards to Masons when there are known scum Masons in the game. Unless you are scum and know who your masons are. Then out them to gain town cred to town masons. Up to this point I have not been in favor of a BM lynch based upon his erratic behavior. His behavior is always erratic. But I can't resolve outing bodyguards with town behavior.
That's not erratic that's traitorous.
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On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.
If on the off chance BM flips town I'd have no problem hanging you.
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If BM has disclosed the identities of the bodyguards to you please don't disseminate that info any farther.
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On January 21 2012 04:53 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 04:50 p4NDemik wrote:
God why do I feel there is a gigantic disconnect in logic between me and the supposedly brilliant players that have gotten us to this point in the game. The fact they keep going to their inner circle of veterans to bolster themselves and not ever speaking to my actual points is killing me. If this means what I think it means it could be incredible but I need town to go with my logic please guys! I feel like I'm putting good logic out and being met with strict rhetoric at every end. Look at the one post I quoted and explain to me why a mafia would make that post; what motivation he would have for doing such a thing. There's disconnect between us as well. I don't think sandroba is a good lynch but BC and Protact like it so I'm going with it. I think Blahz0r is obvious mafia but I'm the only person in the game. We don't agree on everything either but our direction is the same, and that's what is important for a large game like this.
How are you guys all talking to each other?
And what direction are you heading in?
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On January 21 2012 05:46 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 05:36 p4NDemik wrote:
This is so messed up you three have invested all day into BM and Kingjames. I've been like 95-99% sure on these lynches for hours upon hours and now you guys are randomly switching your vote to sandroba.
Whatever trust and goodwill you have been building up, it is quickly evaporating. You need to explain this. I think what is happening behind the seanes is that there seemed to be vary little in opposition to lynching BM, where as Kingjames01 still does not have many votes. Also, if your scum suspects are voting for BM, then you might rethink who would be the best lynch. I would be suspicious too, in your shoes, but for me, BC,Protac, and Foolishness reads are similar to my own, so its easy for me to except this. Sandroba is today's best lynch along with Kingjames01. Cyber_Cheese and Jackal, sense your here, wanna help lynch Sandroba?
I have no problem voting for Sandroba. He was scum with me in XLVIII. I see what appears to be the same game from him here.
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On January 21 2012 06:04 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 05:46 hiro protagonist wrote:On January 21 2012 05:36 p4NDemik wrote:
This is so messed up you three have invested all day into BM and Kingjames. I've been like 95-99% sure on these lynches for hours upon hours and now you guys are randomly switching your vote to sandroba.
Whatever trust and goodwill you have been building up, it is quickly evaporating. You need to explain this. I think what is happening behind the seanes is that there seemed to be vary little in opposition to lynching BM, where as Kingjames01 still does not have many votes. Also, if your scum suspects are voting for BM, then you might rethink who would be the best lynch. I would be suspicious too, in your shoes, but for me, BC,Protac, and Foolishness reads are similar to my own, so its easy for me to except this. Sandroba is today's best lynch along with Kingjames01. Cyber_Cheese and Jackal, sense your here, wanna help lynch Sandroba? In a word, no. I don't blame Foolishness/Protract/BC for being scared of BMs claim, their fear of losing Protract is why Sandro is suddenly popular. I have the best feeling about BM at the moment. Short of that, Chaosquo seems best. I'm not convinced by arguments on Sandroba, they were essentially made day 2, and he seemed townie enough to me on day 2.
I still want to lynch BM. If he's scum as Protact and company insist then they have no fear of being blown up. They can't have it both ways.
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On January 21 2012 06:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 06:50 p4NDemik wrote:
None so far proven but I feel I have one under the spotlight and I'm with you on BM.
Why are you and BC so self-unassured and relying on Proact? You guys are supposed to be super good veteran townies. Have more faith in yourself and have more faith in some of your fellow town. And most of all have faith in your read we all still think it is good. BM is BM. All reads on him although could possibly be accurate could be summed up with its BM. The risk of losing protract earlier because BM decided to troll us all is an actual possibility. We still have other leads which is why we opted to move to those. This isn't unreasonable to want to keep a strong analyzer alive longer. As for whoever said if he is a hatter and has a bomb on protract isn't that more a reason to lynch him? are you a friggen moron -_-
I made that argument when he was first pushed as a lynch and was ignored. This is beginning to look more like one, if not more than one, of your triumvirate knows BM is most likely a hatter. If that is the case lynching him would be a most excellent thing to do. And don't start telling me how many scum you guys have outed. 2 were killed by Vigs. Plus outing your entire scum team is en vogue atm. Several of us in this game just did it with very successful results.
I am leaving shortly and won't be back on until late tonight. I foresee a real clusterfuck occurring over the next several hours and am sorry I shall have to miss it.
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Proactinium is scum. If we have any vigs left shoot him.
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Lol. That boat left the dock day 1 Sand. Go apologize in your QT scummy.
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