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On January 22 2012 13:17 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window. As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason. wtf I'm not discrediting him I just gave a very clean and very logical reason why Jackal was still on his list at that point in time. He was busy composing that list at nearly the same time Jackal called his hit. If he would have read and realized he wouldn't have put Jackal on his list. I have nothing against Protact here I was posting a simple clarification to toad's mistake and explaining why Protact made that mistake. In a roundabout way I was sort of helping you by explaining away one of Protact's mistakes. But yet you are on my ass ... wonder why.
refer to your last post on the previous page and your first one on this page. Factor in his last post on targets was pushing bm I would say its a subtle jab at discrediting him. You then opt to try and flip my explanation of why jackal could have been on a list into a negative while instantly doing a similar form of explanation yourself.
I know you want me dead as you dislike how I dealt with you in regards to Supersoft. You also hate that KJ flipped town. However, even you should realize that although you may dislike my play, BM is the most logical lynch today.
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BC u mad bro? Can't hide your inner mafia emotions that even when I help you in a roundabout way you still attack me?
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On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit.
because you attacked me first?
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On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window. As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason.
yeah but I realy don't like you going after protacs list either and I don't like calling the shots right now. You and foolish mislynched into KJ, not sure if protact had a case on him but I do remember yours and foolishs.
You said if KJ flips town that's HUGE amount of information because you pushed the guy hardcore. So what's happening with that information? Do you want to tell me the information is that you're townie because you got a townie lynched or are you agreeing that it looks weird?
Also now you're blindly sheeping. I can understand that you trust the guy but flipping blue does not make him 100% right as p4n and I have already pointed out. 4 ouf of 9 on his list are wrong, 2 out of 9 are right and 3 out of 9 are unclear right now.
You're looking like someone who does not want to be held responsibility because next thing you say is "srysry guys, I just went for the guy that our dead, CONFIRMED DT wanted to lynch. Not my fault at all!".
I am not going to vote BM so easily. I want to hear what he has to say and I want to hear what he did this night.
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On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit.
Because he gets a tad arrogant?
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On January 22 2012 13:21 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window. As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason. yeah but I realy don't like you going after protacs list either and I don't like you calling the shots right now. You and foolish mislynched into KJ, not sure if protact had a case on him but I do remember yours and foolishs. You said if KJ flips town that's HUGE amount of information because you pushed the guy hardcore. So what's happening with that information? Do you want to tell me the information is that you're townie because you got a townie lynched or are you agreeing that it looks weird? Also now you're blindly sheeping. I can understand that you trust the guy but flipping blue does not make him 100% right as p4n and I have already pointed out. 4 ouf of 9 on his list are wrong, 2 out of 9 are right and 3 out of 9 are unclear right now. You're looking like someone who does not want to be held responsibility because next thing you say is "srysry guys, I just went for the guy that our dead, CONFIRMED DT wanted to lynch. Not my fault at all!". I am not going to vote BM so easily. I want to hear what he has to say and I want to hear what he did this night.
EBWOP
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On January 22 2012 13:21 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window. As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason. yeah but I realy don't like you going after protacs list either and I don't like calling the shots right now. You and foolish mislynched into KJ, not sure if protact had a case on him but I do remember yours and foolishs. You said if KJ flips town that's HUGE amount of information because you pushed the guy hardcore. So what's happening with that information? Do you want to tell me the information is that you're townie because you got a townie lynched or are you agreeing that it looks weird? Also now you're blindly sheeping. I can understand that you trust the guy but flipping blue does not make him 100% right as p4n and I have already pointed out. 4 ouf of 9 on his list are wrong, 2 out of 9 are right and 3 out of 9 are unclear right now. You're looking like someone who does not want to be held responsibility because next thing you say is "srysry guys, I just went for the guy that our dead, CONFIRMED DT wanted to lynch. Not my fault at all!". I am not going to vote BM so easily. I want to hear what he has to say and I want to hear what he did this night.
I am. I'm done listening to him.
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On January 22 2012 13:21 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window. As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason. yeah but I realy don't like you going after protacs list either and I don't like calling the shots right now. You and foolish mislynched into KJ, not sure if protact had a case on him but I do remember yours and foolishs. You said if KJ flips town that's HUGE amount of information because you pushed the guy hardcore. So what's happening with that information? Do you want to tell me the information is that you're townie because you got a townie lynched or are you agreeing that it looks weird? Also now you're blindly sheeping. I can understand that you trust the guy but flipping blue does not make him 100% right as p4n and I have already pointed out. 4 ouf of 9 on his list are wrong, 2 out of 9 are right and 3 out of 9 are unclear right now. You're looking like someone who does not want to be held responsibility because next thing you say is "srysry guys, I just went for the guy that our dead, CONFIRMED DT wanted to lynch. Not my fault at all!". I am not going to vote BM so easily. I want to hear what he has to say and I want to hear what he did this night.
I've analyzed BM surprisingly so me continuing going for him isn't retarded. Also note protract also did analyze KJ, he was on KJ scumlists that he posted in thread. If you honestly can't look back and see why I pushed KJ so heavily and that both foolishness and protrac would go for him as well then I have no idea what to say to you. You can call it blind sheeping but as mr p4n is opting to make a run at me it gives me reason to say "hey, just so you know, dead guy also said this".
I am not opting to go with "its not my fault at all" but if you think a player who doesn't know how the elected position works with power roles, when he was playing in games well before you started playing here then again, don't know what to say to you. We have always been able to use whatever our role was + the elected one. He says he feared claiming his role (after elected mind you) as he was scared of a roleblock that couldnt happen. He then says "lynch bc or I wont move my bomb"
Those are some of his last contributions of yesterdays day. Is that townie behaviour at all? The roleblock question was answered via a mod in thread, he knows damn well you can use role + elected role same night, and knows holding a lynch hostage is anti town. You all know this same information and yet This has to be spelt out? What is he magically going to say when he comes back that will make you think hes worth lynching, out and out saying "im red?"
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On January 22 2012 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit. Because he gets a tad arrogant?
I think a tad is being too kind -_- Pyp3 i was one of the most arrogant dbags in the world.
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On January 22 2012 13:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit. Because he gets a tad arrogant? I think a tad is being too kind -_- Pyp3 i was one of the most arrogant dbags in the world.
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On January 22 2012 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit. Because he gets a tad arrogant?
Fair enough if you want to read it that way but that's not how I see it. I feel like I've done enough and I've presented myself in such a way that I am playing very much with town's interestes in mind. I have been very active and very town. He's been careful not to push very hard that I am mafia up until this point in time because I have been very pro-town and a case against me would be very difficult to make.
Now. He presents Protact's agenda on top of his casket and tells us to follow our brave leader despite him being dead and not being able to give us actual guidance. He does this to rally support behind an initiative that isn't mine and that wouldn't spell his demise obviously. Now, what I did was clarify a small mistake in Toadesstern's analysis of Protact's list. But I quickly followed that up with the point that the fact you were on that list is not Protact's fault and should not take away from the merit of the list. I did not detract from the merit of Protact's list. All I did was clarify a small error.
But BC is mad and hinting I'm mafia. Which is absurd. I think we saw a brief moment of BC's real emotions slipping out folks.
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On January 22 2012 13:33 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit. Because he gets a tad arrogant? Fair enough if you want to read it that way but that's not how I see it. I feel like I've done enough and I've presented myself in such a way that I am playing very much with town's interestes in mind. I have been very active and very town. He's been careful not to push very hard that I am mafia up until this point in time because I have been very pro-town and a case against me would be very difficult to make. Now. He presents Protact's agenda on top of his casket and tells us to follow our brave leader despite him being dead and not being able to give us actual guidance. He does this to rally support behind an initiative that isn't mine and that wouldn't spell his demise obviously. Now, what I did was clarify a small mistake in Toadesstern's analysis of Protact's list. But I quickly followed that up with the point that the fact you were on that list is not Protact's fault and should not take away from the merit of the list. I did not detract from the merit of Protact's list. All I did was clarify a small error. But BC is mad and hinting I'm mafia. Which is absurd. I think we saw a brief moment of BC's real emotions slipping out folks.
don't worry, when I think your mafia and being dumb i will clarify for you. I have yet to say "hey guys, lets lynch this red" so stop trying to defend a case that doesn't exist.
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On January 22 2012 13:18 Jackal58 wrote:
What I'm getting at p4NDemik is don't read to much into what BC just said. I understood the context of his post. At least I think I did.
WBG - WHEN WERE YOU TALKING TO SANDROBA???????
quoting to get this up again. What are you talking about? A searched wbg's filter real quick and wasn't able to find what you're referring to. Could you do me a favor and link / quote what you're talking about because from what you say it sounds important :p
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ebwop,
don't worry, when I think your mafia and not just being dumb i will clarify for you. I have yet to say "hey guys, lets lynch this red" so stop trying to defend a case that doesn't exist.
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Japan10647 Posts
Jackal, you on crack bro?
I never talked to sandro.
##vote Bill Murray
Also Toad is annoying
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@ BC: Ok you didn't say I was mafia. I was reading into "I would say there is a valid reason" the wrong way. Whatever, my mistake disregard that stuff about you letting emotions slip. The point still remains, why are you defending his putting Jackal on the list the way you did. I thought my way was the most logical way to defend it. You are defending yourself as well as Protact.
Now. We have this.
On January 22 2012 13:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 12:59 p4NDemik wrote:
Who is trying to keep BM alive? Last I saw it was you, proact (may he rest in peace), and foolishness who worked so hard for him to live just one more day yesterday. To save the dt who is now dead? That same dt who's near final words were kill bm -_- Do you seriously think hes town? Honestly? Can you sit in your chair with a straight face and say "bm is town"? Bm has performed badly and three people were duped by a claim.
You weren't duped at all. You never believed him. You were doing this to make you look like you were these good town trying to save our savior Mr. Protactinium. Then you murdered Protact in the night and went back to attacking BM. Don't make it look like you were ever fooled. I think you're a better player than that. Yesterday you even made a point that you guys didn't truly believe him, you just "didn't want to take the risk." Again, you are trying to gain brownie points by "saving" protact before you murder him.
And don't get me wrong I still want to lynch BM I think he is likely red. Even if he is Mad Hatter he doesn't do town any good if he lives very much longer. If he is town-aligned his ability to take town some mafia is more valuable than his ability to jail dudes at night provided he has time to get good reads and doesn't suck (but then again he kinda sucks so =/).
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What does Protract flipping Detective have anything to do with BM being Scum or not? Elected roles cannot be role-checked, therefore it was all strictly hypothetical since BM is "playing like an idiot".
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On January 22 2012 13:46 p4NDemik wrote:
You weren't duped at all. You never believed him.
This is actually a very good point. I can't think of anyone with half a brain who would've actually believed BM's claim in the way that he made it.
Problem I have right now is that BM very well could just be super bad town. I'm so torn it's annoying. I just want to kill him now, since he can't say "oh well I have a bomb on Protact! herp derp"
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On January 22 2012 13:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 13:18 Jackal58 wrote:
What I'm getting at p4NDemik is don't read to much into what BC just said. I understood the context of his post. At least I think I did.
WBG - WHEN WERE YOU TALKING TO SANDROBA??????? quoting to get this up again. What are you talking about? A searched wbg's filter real quick and wasn't able to find what you're referring to. Could you do me a favor and link / quote what you're talking about because from what you say it sounds important :p
You need to start reading everything. I don't want you on my jury.
On January 22 2012 12:03 kitaman27 wrote:
[16:36] <sandroba> hey
[16:36] <kitaman27_> sup
[16:36] <sandroba> who do you plan on supporting for mayor?
[16:36] <sandroba> have you decided yet?
[16:37] <kitaman27_> probably mig, but for pardoner, not mayor
[16:37] <sandroba> how are you going to acomplish that
[16:38] <sandroba> lol
[16:38] <sandroba> every person only has one vote
[16:38] <sandroba> isn't pardoner the runner up?
[16:38] <kitaman27_> heh well syllo told me that mig wants pardoner too
[16:38] <kitaman27_> so we can coordinate so he gets second
[16:38] <kitaman27_> who do you want? Not jimbo I assume?
[16:39] <sandroba> I'm voting mig
[16:39] <sandroba> don't care if pardoner or mayor
[16:39] <sandroba> I was hoping I could elect both
[16:39] <kitaman27_> what about mig makes you want to vote for him?
[16:39] <sandroba> well there is plenty of our shit in the thread already
[16:39] <sandroba> I'm kinda tired of repeating myself over 2000x times
[16:40] <kitaman27_> I saw the reason for syllo. Is it just by association?
[16:40] <sandroba> but basically I have my own reasons to trust him
[16:40] <sandroba> and yes
[16:40] <sandroba> I trust syllo's judgment too
[16:40] <sandroba> as I'm positive he is town
[16:40] <kitaman27_> Do you think jimbo's analysis against you is scum motivated or is he just wrong?
[16:41] <sandroba> man
[16:41] <sandroba> I can't wrap around my head
[16:41] <sandroba> any townie motivations for posting that shit
[16:42] <sandroba> I've argued plenty about it on thread
[16:42] <sandroba> I thought my opinion was clear
[16:42] <kitaman27_> if you had to suggest 1 person to mig to lynch, would it be jimbo? Or is there somebody else?
[16:42] <kitaman27_> *for
[16:42] <sandroba> I'm kinda undecided
[16:42] <sandroba> but leaning chaoser
[16:42] <sandroba> between him and chaoser
[16:43] <sandroba> on the off chance jimbo is town and has an awesome role
[16:43] <kitaman27_> lol chaoser seems to be a popular name from what I've heard
[16:43] <kitaman27_> what about chaoser makes him scummy?
[16:43] <sandroba> plenty
[16:44] <sandroba> the convos we had in skype
[16:44] <sandroba> are pretty damn near impossible to be from a townie perspective
[16:44] <kitaman27_> anything in particular?
[16:44] <sandroba> first
[16:45] <sandroba> let's hear what you think about him
[16:45] <kitaman27_> But I asked first
[16:45] <sandroba> as I can never tell if you are scum or not
[16:45] <kitaman27_> I'm never scum ^_^
[16:45] <sandroba> you sneaky snake
[16:45] <sandroba> you asked plenty already
[16:45] <sandroba> your turn to answer =P
[16:46] <kitaman27_> I've only had one major conversation asking his input about foolishness, where he was extremely careful in the way he responded
[16:46] <sandroba> that's weird
[16:46] <kitaman27_> overall it just seems like he has been unwilling to accuse anybody of anything yet
[16:46] <sandroba> cuz foolishness also thinks he is scum
[16:47] <kitaman27_> I haven't seen signs of him actively scum hunting yet
[16:47] <kitaman27_> lol don't get me started on my chat with foolishness
[16:47] <kitaman27_> strange to say the least
[16:47] <kitaman27_> but not sure if its necessarily scum motivated
[16:47] <kitaman27_> your turn
[16:47] <kitaman27_> why chaoser?
[16:48] <sandroba> I was trying to convince him to step down
[16:48] <sandroba> as you can see in thread
[16:49] <sandroba> and then told him my motives to believe syllo is town
[16:49] <sandroba> he trusted it so much
[16:49] <sandroba> that he deemed it cheating
[16:49] <sandroba> and pm'ed gm about it
[16:49] <sandroba> when gm said that was not cheating
[16:49] <sandroba> he back pedalled and concluded "you must be lying then"
[16:50] <sandroba> I proved to him that running against mig was a bad idea if he was town
[16:50] <sandroba> and he acused me of being heavy handed
[16:50] <kitaman27_> If he really wanted mayor, I would think he would be campaigning way more heavily
[16:50] <sandroba> forcing him to step down
[16:50] <sandroba> that screams of fear to me
[16:50] <kitaman27_> kinda like radfield
[16:50] <sandroba> he later
[16:50] <sandroba> agreed to step down lol
[16:51] <kitaman27_> hmm
[16:51] <sandroba> i have the logs
[16:51] <sandroba> but it's like 10 pages long
[16:52] <kitaman27_> I'll take a look if you wanna pm them to me
[16:52] <sandroba> he is scum though
[16:52] <kitaman27_> I've got nothing better to do
[16:52] <sandroba> k I guess there is no harm
[16:52] <sandroba> even if you are scum
[16:52] <sandroba> =P
[16:52] <sandroba> do you suspect anyone so far?
[16:53] <sandroba> brb that shit is long
[16:53] <kitaman27_> k
[16:53] <kitaman27_> I've been trying to exchange pms with heist and its been really tough to get anything out of him.
[16:53] <sandroba> k sent
[16:53] <kitaman27_> ty :D
[16:54] <sandroba> lol
[16:54] <sandroba> is heist even playing
[16:54] <sandroba> man
[16:54] <kitaman27_> barely -_-
[16:54] <sandroba> too many people are hiding hardcore
[16:54] <sandroba> radfield just had to remind me foolishness was playing
[16:54] <kitaman27_> lol I think there are a couple people who haven't even posted yet
[16:54] <sandroba> so I talked to him the first time today
[16:54] <kitaman27_> how did that go?
[16:54] <sandroba> despite having in on skype lol
[16:55] <sandroba> he basically trolled me
[16:55] <sandroba> and gave me nothing
[16:55] <kitaman27_> -_-
[16:55] <kitaman27_> sounds familiar
[16:56] <sandroba> ...
[16:56] <sandroba> he claims he wants to "survive night one"
[16:56] <sandroba> cool
[16:56] <sandroba> to acomplish what is my question
[16:56] <sandroba> he is pick 25
[16:56] <kitaman27_> its kinda strange that he wants to survive yet doesn't run for mayor, even though he could win it blindfolded
[16:56] <sandroba> if he is townie
[16:57] <sandroba> he will have no cred by day2 =/
[16:57] <sandroba> then even if he does a great job
[16:57] <kitaman27_> I asked him his reasoning for voting mig and he said it was because mig was the smallest threat to town
[16:57] <sandroba> it doesn't matter
[16:57] <sandroba> well
[16:57] <sandroba> if he is voting mig
[16:57] <sandroba> then I don't care right now
[16:58] <kitaman27_> lol well you might be outta luck
[16:58] <kitaman27_> after jimbo's post, he seemed to have changed his mind
[16:58] <sandroba> how come?
[16:58] <sandroba> ...
[16:58] <kitaman27_> he said "Jimbo was the only one who understood how this game works"
[16:58] <kitaman27_> yet didn't really mention anything about you in particular
[16:59] <kitaman27_> He did try to suggest kenpachi has a defensive role at 2, so at least that gives him some town points
[17:01] <kitaman27_> anyways, I'll bbl
[17:01] <kitaman27_> ttyl
[17:01] <sandroba> sorry
[17:01] <sandroba> I was talking to wbg
[17:02] <sandroba> k ttyl then
On January 22 2012 13:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Jackal, you on crack bro?
I never talked to sandro.
##vote Bill Murray
Also Toad is annoying
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