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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 13 2011 19:26 GMT
#109
i guess I'll /in, if you guys are ok having someone new in this game.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 03:33 GMT
#131
/confirm
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 19:38 GMT
#164
On August 15 2011 03:54 DropBear wrote:
Ok first couple of thoughts:

- Blues look much less useful than usual. Both strains of detective can only detect certain scum, medics are either silencers or can't repeat saves, veterans don't even know they are veterans so they can't try to draw scum fire, watchers have a really small chance of getting any information until at least day 3. Not only this several traits which would normally could be considered blue roles are now possible Mafia roles. We need to win this through analysis.


This. Also, Looks like from the role list that the Godfather can't contact the mafia right away. At least that gives us some sort of early game advantage. we really need to play this carefully due to the fact that multiple lynchings are possible. DropBear is right when he says we just need to play this smart.

Hoping my first game on TL doesnt end in rage and fire :D
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 20:07 GMT
#174
quick question about the thief trait. If the Thief is say a townie and robs a Mafia, will he become a member of the mafia and have effectively switched sides?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#177
On August 15 2011 05:08 Sevryn wrote:
Do you guys think we should try to double and triple lynch? or should we just go after one person a day?


idk, the only thing that worries me about doing a multi lynch this early on is its potential to backfire incredibly on us. I think it might be a good idea to coordinate some later in the game though when we have a better idea of whats going on.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 21:01 GMT
#187
I also agree with Claiming the above Traits. Claiming Rabid fanboy is a good call too. i didn't think about that. The only problem with that is that the second in command might be a member of the Mafia, and we will have just given them additional power. Im not sure exactly into who's hands that would play out though.

I also agree with your plan on Voting and cells. the last thing we need in this game is multitown kills and dissenting factions within the town.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 21:57 GMT
#213
On August 15 2011 06:50 Sknowman wrote:
DropBear's plan: Don't agree with role/traitclaiming. I never support claiming, especially in PM games, it causes confusion and is not worth the potential risk. The rest of his plan seems to be him saying not to do things that people generally tend to avoid the first few nights (Multilynch, cells).

A pretty empty plan for the most part. Could be a godfather-mayor type thing, putting town in his hands from the beginning.

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On August 15 2011 06:01 GreYMisT wrote:
I also agree with Claiming the above Traits. Claiming Rabid fanboy is a good call too. i didn't think about that. The only problem with that is that the second in command might be a member of the Mafia, and we will have just given them additional power. Im not sure exactly into who's hands that would play out though.

I also agree with your plan on Voting and cells. the last thing we need in this game is multitown kills and dissenting factions within the town.


I don't like this post. He says "I AGREE! :D" Way to contribute.


No, i agreed with some of the overall idea, but if you notice in the post I actually give a reason why role claiming the Rabid fanboy could be detrimental as his death could inadvertantly give the maifia power.
I would like to state that i feel as though claiming rivals might not be the best idea now that i think about it. I feel as though it might cause more harm and confusion than ultimate good.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 15 2011 02:56 GMT
#273
Night guys, and I agree with most of what was said here. lets give slam a chance to defend himself before the deadline before we all start bandwagoning.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 15 2011 19:13 GMT
#305
So Mafia couldn't kill last night, but other actions could be taken right?

and lol at the HuK picture.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#308
On August 14 2011 12:00 Ciryandor wrote:
Be reminded that it is a Night 0 deadline and that you have 36 hours to choose your scan/spy whatever targets.


This seemed to indicate no KPs first night
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 15 2011 19:35 GMT
#312
I was responding to TheAwesomeAll quoting me, Should have made that clear.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 15 2011 19:44 GMT
#316
I responded above but I fear it might have gotten lost. Basically I was responding to TheAwesomeAll quoting me, not to you talking to Nisani. I misinterpreted the blue post I quoted, and thought it meant only scan,spy abilities could be used.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 15 2011 20:21 GMT
#319
On August 16 2011 05:05 hiro protagonist wrote:
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On August 16 2011 04:54 Jackal58 wrote:
3 scum in a page and a half. That's pretty cool. Let's make a 3 way tie happen. Nisani, GreyMist and JeeJee.


What gives you the impression that JeeJee is scum?



I would like to see your reasoning against me as well.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 15 2011 23:58 GMT
#341
I havn't heard from Chaos13 in a while.


On August 15 2011 04:53 chaos13 wrote:
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On August 15 2011 04:52 Varpulis wrote:
shit jackal, he foiled our attempts to spread chaos in the first 5 posts of the game. What do you want us to talk about? whether or not to lynch lurkers? It's the same crap every game. At least random accusations get a discussion going.


Well then screw this. Spam the thread to hell. Accuse people randomly. I don't care.


This post early on, coupled with his current lack of activity make me lean slightly scummy on him.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 16 2011 19:18 GMT
#371
Voting Nisani as well, its either him or slam500, but atm we have more evidence for Nisani in my opinion.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 17 2011 00:52 GMT
#403
On August 17 2011 09:17 JeeJee wrote:

I would also like to bring up dropbear -- who didn't do anything in this thread apart from talking about rivals and throwing away his day one vote with no reasoning. Where have you gone to?


JeeJee makes very good point in this post. the only real information we have about dropbear is that he posted "the plan" which basically consisted of roleclaiming certain traits. on top of that he also stated that everyone should roleclaim to him via pm asap. after making this plan he drops off the map, seeing how unreceptive we were about that idea. he then proceded to throw his vote away on someone who he knew would not be lynched.
I propose we lynch dropbear, and have our detective investigate nishani tonight to see if he is telling the truth.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: DROPBEAR
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 17 2011 06:06 GMT
#427
It seems as though there are some misconceptions about my "scumslip"

On August 17 2011 11:05 Navillus wrote:
Oh look who's back, did you realize that greymist actually said that there was reason to think what nasini did but greymist didnt think that nasini went through that thought process. What are your opinions on other people Sevryn?


Navillus pretty much summed it up for me, though I would like to add more. At the time of nishani's scumslip, I was responding to what i believed to be an attack on me from TAA. I was not defending nishani rather defending myself from the following post:

On August 16 2011 04:15 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
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On August 16 2011 04:13 GreYMisT wrote:
So Mafia couldn't kill last night, but other actions could be taken right?

and lol at the HuK picture.

* disappointed stare of disappointment*


I provided my reasoning that mafia had no kp's on day0 due to both the blue post I quoted later on and the fact that it was called day0, which was an erroneous assumption to make.

I hope that clears the waters a bit for you guys. I stand firm in my vote for Dropbear as he went afk after presenting a plan that required us to all roleclaim to him privately.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 17 2011 14:58 GMT
#443
On August 17 2011 19:18 DropBear wrote:
GREYMIST

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On August 17 2011 15:06 GreYMisT wrote:
It seems as though there are some misconceptions about my "scumslip"

On August 17 2011 11:05 Navillus wrote:
Oh look who's back, did you realize that greymist actually said that there was reason to think what nasini did but greymist didnt think that nasini went through that thought process. What are your opinions on other people Sevryn?


Navillus pretty much summed it up for me, though I would like to add more. At the time of nishani's scumslip, I was responding to what i believed to be an attack on me from TAA. I was not defending nishani rather defending myself from the following post:

On August 16 2011 04:15 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On August 16 2011 04:13 GreYMisT wrote:
So Mafia couldn't kill last night, but other actions could be taken right?

and lol at the HuK picture.

* disappointed stare of disappointment*


I provided my reasoning that mafia had no kp's on day0 due to both the blue post I quoted later on and the fact that it was called day0, which was an erroneous assumption to make.

I hope that clears the waters a bit for you guys. I stand firm in my vote for Dropbear as he went afk after presenting a plan that required us to all roleclaim to him privately.

Lol you do realise that you agreed with every word? Almost directly afterward?

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On August 15 2011 06:01 GreYMisT wrote:
I also agree with Claiming the above Traits. Claiming Rabid fanboy is a good call too. i didn't think about that. The only problem with that is that the second in command might be a member of the Mafia, and we will have just given them additional power. Im not sure exactly into who's hands that would play out though.

I also agree with your plan on Voting and cells. the last thing we need in this game is multitown kills and dissenting factions within the town.


The plan was an absolute pile of horseshit. How do we even know these roles are in the game? It was an idiocy I concocted to get reactions. Reactions like yours

I basically said, people with powerful roles should open claim and people should limit their out of thread communication. Agreeing with it word for word is either newbie or Mafia. You did this, as did slam500 and Varpulis.

The bandwagoning from you has been pretty fast. Onto Nisani despite defending him, then onto me because I "advocated claiming to me"and because JeeJee and Nisani brought me up first. Everyone else worked out that was a joke pretty fast. It even had a smiley face next to it!

I'm not quite ready to vote for you because our brief PM convo early in the game showed a lot of sense and this is your first TL game but you need to step it up dude. The "scum slip" that everyone is banging on about doesn't interest me at all and is inconsequential. What DOES worry me is that you agreed with the plan with no reservations and your quick bandwagoning. You've been the third or fourth person on a train each time so far which is the scummiest time to get on board.

My post about everyone claiming to me was a joke in a post that was a joke. What other reasons do you have to kill me?


Most of my reason that I had stated was because of you seemingly lurking after posting your plan, and to me you seemed like a pretty good scum call, especially after nashi's roleclaim made him not a very good lynch for day1. I called you out to see if you would respond to everyone accusing you of lurking.
That being said i dont like proposing a fake plan, i think it creates a negative atmosphere that the town doesn't need in a game where we are the uninformed minority. That is why i have voted for you.
I think we need to take a closer look at forumite, he was looking pretty bad early on but the bandwagon against me formed so fast that little more was thought about it.

and i do believe we have like 6 minutes remaining in the vote. Hopefully a few people can read this before then.


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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 17 2011 15:12 GMT
#446
Most of those were early on, I feel you have been absent from discussion, until very recently of course.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 17 2011 15:30 GMT
#450
I had to sit down and calculate it myself haha
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 17 2011 16:00 GMT
#456
Ah well, i learned a lot for my first game.
Gl Hf everyone
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 27 2011 18:06 GMT
#815
Yea we win!
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#830
I learned a lot, thanks guys.
Might have been helpful if I were town in my first game though.

The interesting thing is that the reason I died wasn't a real slip up. Before receiving the role PMs I actually believed mafia didnt have a kill on night 0.
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