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Curu or Jackal is scum.
Wait, what? Where did Curu come from?
Well, I'll tell you where. Let's go back to PM land.
Original Message From DropBear: I understand. Show nested quote +Original Message From Nisani201: I've taken my vote off of you. I'm checking you tonight. If I die tonight., then you're in bad shape. Original Message From DropBear: I don't really understand where your scum claim has come from. We hadn't spoken up until now and I'm the only person who has actually discussed a plan in thread, for good or for bad. I've opened the lines of communication and claimed to you. If you want to talk to me then I'll listen. If you want to be a dick then I'll protect someone else. Up to you. Original Message From Nisani201: Even if you are a medic, I don't need you. There's probably more than one. Original Message From DropBear: Rofl. I guess I'll go protect someone else then. Original Message From Nisani201: Yes the claim is legit. I'm a Banling. I don't want to work with scum. Original Message From DropBear:
Is it legit?
Look me in the eyes and tell me you are telling the truth.
You are voting for me despite the fact that we have had zero interaction. Why?
If you want me to work with you then you gotta be transparent.
During that time, I stated in the thread that DropBear would be checked instead of JeeJee. I then sent a PM to Curu with this message:
DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
I received no reply to the message, and DropBear was killed tonight. So this means that Curu told his scum buddies that DropBear was healing me, and then he died.
,,,and then there's Jackal. Not sure where he came from, but I did get this PM from DropBear (subject was "If i die"):
Original Message From DropBear: Jackal is scum. Assuming you aren't as well 
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As for the Jackal thing, I'm guessing DropBear sent a message to Jackal similar to the one that was sent to Curu. But I don't have any more information.
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okay so one of them is scum but we really don't have a good way to know which one it is or if its both. curu and jackal your responses?
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Also there is the third option of Nisani being scum using his claim to draw out a medic and then killing him after telling someone else to put suspicion on them. IMO we kill curu and jackal if we find scum then Nisani is pretty much confirmed. otherwise Nisani is scum.
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Chaos/Curu has not posted enough for me to call either way. Drop Bear never claimed to me in PM land. We did discuss the efficacy of a double lynch.
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did he tell you anything that would make you lynch him if he was scum?
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Why the fuck would you tell somebody in PMs the name of our medic?
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On August 18 2011 03:12 Sevryn wrote:
did he tell you anything that would make you lynch him if he was scum?
Nope. I got a town vibe from him the more we talked.
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On August 18 2011 03:13 Jackal58 wrote:
Why the fuck would you tell somebody in PMs the name of our medic?
this is what I Was thinking. What could that have done why would someone do this as a scum trap? sure but don't use a real medic....
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why the hell would he tell curu, he hasnt posted anything so far i think.
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On August 18 2011 02:53 Nisani201 wrote:Curu or Jackal is scum.Wait, what? Where did Curu come from? Well, I'll tell you where. Let's go back to PM land. Show nested quote +Original Message From DropBear: I understand. Original Message From Nisani201: I've taken my vote off of you. I'm checking you tonight. If I die tonight., then you're in bad shape. Original Message From DropBear: I don't really understand where your scum claim has come from. We hadn't spoken up until now and I'm the only person who has actually discussed a plan in thread, for good or for bad. I've opened the lines of communication and claimed to you. If you want to talk to me then I'll listen. If you want to be a dick then I'll protect someone else. Up to you. Original Message From Nisani201: Even if you are a medic, I don't need you. There's probably more than one. Original Message From DropBear: Rofl. I guess I'll go protect someone else then. Original Message From Nisani201: Yes the claim is legit. I'm a Banling. I don't want to work with scum. Original Message From DropBear:
Is it legit?
Look me in the eyes and tell me you are telling the truth.
You are voting for me despite the fact that we have had zero interaction. Why?
If you want me to work with you then you gotta be transparent. During that time, I stated in the thread that DropBear would be checked instead of JeeJee. I then sent a PM to Curu with this message: I received no reply to the message, and DropBear was killed tonight. So this means that Curu told his scum buddies that DropBear was healing me, and then he died. ,,,and then there's Jackal. Not sure where he came from, but I did get this PM from DropBear (subject was "If i die"):
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I find it curious that JeeJee died and You were up to check him.
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On August 18 2011 03:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 02:53 Nisani201 wrote:Curu or Jackal is scum.Wait, what? Where did Curu come from? Well, I'll tell you where. Let's go back to PM land. Original Message From DropBear: I understand. Original Message From Nisani201: I've taken my vote off of you. I'm checking you tonight. If I die tonight., then you're in bad shape. Original Message From DropBear: I don't really understand where your scum claim has come from. We hadn't spoken up until now and I'm the only person who has actually discussed a plan in thread, for good or for bad. I've opened the lines of communication and claimed to you. If you want to talk to me then I'll listen. If you want to be a dick then I'll protect someone else. Up to you. Original Message From Nisani201: Even if you are a medic, I don't need you. There's probably more than one. Original Message From DropBear: Rofl. I guess I'll go protect someone else then. Original Message From Nisani201: Yes the claim is legit. I'm a Banling. I don't want to work with scum. Original Message From DropBear:
Is it legit?
Look me in the eyes and tell me you are telling the truth.
You are voting for me despite the fact that we have had zero interaction. Why?
If you want me to work with you then you gotta be transparent. During that time, I stated in the thread that DropBear would be checked instead of JeeJee. I then sent a PM to Curu with this message: DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying. I received no reply to the message, and DropBear was killed tonight. So this means that Curu told his scum buddies that DropBear was healing me, and then he died. ,,,and then there's Jackal. Not sure where he came from, but I did get this PM from DropBear (subject was "If i die"): Original Message From DropBear: Jackal is scum. Assuming you aren't as well I find it curious that JeeJee died and You were up to check him.
That's incorrect. I checked DropBear.
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On August 18 2011 03:11 Jackal58 wrote:
Chaos/Curu has not posted enough for me to call either way. Drop Bear never claimed to me in PM land. We did discuss the efficacy of a double lynch.
Then why would DropBear tell me that you are scum if he dies?
The fact that you're lying about any kind of PM contact makes me want to kill you.
##Vote: Jackal58
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oh You sly raccoon, saying You will check X and You check Y?
Claims aside, DropBear was reasonable hit. Think about it:
Active in both thread and PM land.
Greymist tried to lynch him.
He was quite town in everyone's book, wasn't he?
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OK, it's not "any kind of PM contact." That was bad wording. But the point still stands.
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I am not scum. I'm not dumb enough to trap myself like that and I can assure you I told no one else about that PM. I didn't respond to you cause well it's obvious what your intention was. Here's the PM DropBear sent to me during the night:
lol, sure thing.
Jackal did the same kind of useless joking around thing that he did in PTP as scum. In PTP I made a big post asking what people think, and he replied with "You're scum." In this game he's got:
On August 15 2011 05:56 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
You're the Godfather?
He's got some really bad posts:
On August 15 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:
And just for the record a DT check on Varp wouldn't be a bad idea either. Wouldn't be the first time scum fabricated text. I'm not FoSing you Varp I simply don't trust anybody.
"DT should check Varp cause I'm suspicious of him but I'm not actually suspicious of him that much lolz."
He is accusing people a lot, which I haven't seen him do as scum before. None of them are real, however since he doesn't throw his vote behind then.
All in all I'm leaning slightly towards Town on him, but I'd need him to post more to get a better picture.
Original Message From DropBear:
You have joined. I got bored, noone is talking in thread or in IRC, at least not when I'm there. Taaaaalk to meeeeeeee!
chaos was one of the handful of people I tried to talk to via PM and he basically told me to get fucked when I spoke to him. Hopefully you will be more forthcoming because I would like to keep you in my communication circle cos you aren't a muppet.
First question, just a starter
What do you think of Jackal?
I'm guessing DropBear claimed to Jackal as well, based on his suspicions and PMing me about him and no one else.
Other than that, DropBear started pushing for Varpulis and Slam which is the only other reason I can see that set him apart from any other target.
In case you've all forgotten, I was the one to really set off the GreyMist wagon. Unless you think I'm up to bussing my teammates day 1 and am a complete retard (do you really think if I was scum and chose to hit DropBear, I wouldn't make sure Nisani died first since he knows I know he's a Doc?), it's obvious I am not responsible for DropBear's death.
Vig if you hit DropBear then you need to claim this shit right now before you're responsible for a Townie mislynch.
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My last PM from Drop Bear:
From: DropBear [ 1464 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: I too
Date: 8/16/11 00:06
I understand. I however have a really good feeling about you.
That "plan" I posted in the thread was utter horseshit, I didn't believe a word of it. I just wanted to see some reactions. I would prefer that this doesn't leak to Varpuli because I too am interested in him. Everyone who was like "yeah that's a great idea I agree with every word" is on my FoS list.
As to Kurumi's plan, at this point other than basically me and you, everyone is lurking. The problem with deciding on a second person is that more and more people will disagree. Most lynches are divided, having a second division will in turn make things harder. Arguing about one lynch is enough, having a second could shit things up pretty bad.
Mind you I have not played in a game with multiple lynch before and I am unsure how to approach it.
I would be in favour of it later in the game, not now on Day 1. The chances of hitting a second townie are too high, especially with the low activity so far.
By Day 3, it is very easy to see who the lurkers are. Just hit filter. This isn't a big enough game for people to just hide so if people do try and blend for a long period they will get put up as a second lynch. We announce it in the thread and put them on the spot. The added pressure of being up for both scum lynch and lurker lynch will make someone crack. We get in their face and push. Hard. Until we get results, one way or the other.
Original Message From Jackal58:
Alright. Varp has just PMed me as well. Problem here is I think one of either you, Varp or Nav are scum. This early in the game I'm usually wrong but my trust level isn't through the roof if you follow me. I'm sending the same PM to Varp. How would we implement this? How do we decide #1 who is lurking enough to be worthy of a lynch and #2 how do we divide people into voting for a) our scum candidate and b) our lurker.
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Original Message From DropBear:
was speaking to Kurumi about this plan.
I have reservations. One person deciding to fuck things up could fuck things up.
I pmd chaos and he replied but refused to talk to me. Everyone else I have spoken to is more forthcoming
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Damn, I forgot, sorry T_T HOST
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Can you people please use PM quotes properly? Just hit the "reply" button in a PM conversation and copy-paste the reply box in here. It's MUCH easier to understand.
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