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On August 16 2011 11:27 Nisani201 wrote:
Once again Sinani206 is in a position without an internet connection. He needs to be replaced.
Duly noted
We are now looking for replacements!
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On August 16 2011 11:04 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 10:33 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting. My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum. hmm i don't think you understand. nothing about my vote is random, and i don't do pressure votes because they're a waste of time. when i vote, i think that person is a good candidate to die at the time. this means you. and yes, posting irrelevant stuff about multilynching is indeed not contributing. what exactly are you waiting for before you start contributing? if the deadline was in 5 minutes, you're the best candidate, wouldn't you agree? The deadline isn´t in 5 minutes... And you are wrong, discussing tactics is important, because things like massclaiming and multilynching needs a following to be of any use.
oh you're right, the deadline isn't in five minutes thanks so much for clearing that up. whew.
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On August 14 2011 12:07 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 12:04 BrownBear wrote:Got your PM late  I'll just watch this game! Putting you down as 1st Sub. 
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JeeJee, for some one accusing me of useless posts and not saying anything, you really should pick up on your own posting.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 00:37 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 23:12 Varpulis wrote:On August 15 2011 13:53 hiro protagonist wrote:good day all, Im here to slay me some werewolves! Claiming is bad, don't do it in thread or PM. Plans that involve claiming to one person before there has even been a lynch suck. Unless Ciryandor comes in and says "hey btw hiro protagonist is town", its not worth it. Scum hunting in PM land is OP  See you in the morning! amigo, do you have anything other than the obvious to tell us? Do you think that slam500 and Forumite are scummy, and why? As soon as the day rolls around i'm going to send a pm to everybody who hasn't posted at all to prompt them. Too many vets are lurking in this game. do you? On August 16 2011 02:33 JeeJee wrote:discussing claim strategies for roles that may not even be in the game is a waste of time, drop it. Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:06 Da-Muffinman wrote:
So Kurumi is temp banned, how will this affect our Mafia Game?
Also, good morning.
good morning to you too. enjoy the night? On August 16 2011 08:10 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 08:07 Jackal58 wrote:Dear JeeJee, This: + Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 00:37 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 23:12 Varpulis wrote:On August 15 2011 13:53 hiro protagonist wrote:good day all, Im here to slay me some werewolves! Claiming is bad, don't do it in thread or PM. Plans that involve claiming to one person before there has even been a lynch suck. Unless Ciryandor comes in and says "hey btw hiro protagonist is town", its not worth it. Scum hunting in PM land is OP See you in the morning! amigo, do you have anything other than the obvious to tell us? Do you think that slam500 and Forumite are scummy, and why? As soon as the day rolls around i'm going to send a pm to everybody who hasn't posted at all to prompt them. Too many vets are lurking in this game. do you? Followed by this: + Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 02:33 JeeJee wrote:discussing claim strategies for roles that may not even be in the game is a waste of time, drop it. Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:06 Da-Muffinman wrote:
So Kurumi is temp banned, how will this affect our Mafia Game?
Also, good morning.
good morning to you too. enjoy the night? Just screams "I'm scum" to me. Sorry. Your Friend, Jackal58. Dear GreYMisT Your immediate soft defense of your scum buddy screams louder. get a hearing aid  On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. On August 16 2011 11:29 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 11:04 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:33 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting. My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum. hmm i don't think you understand. nothing about my vote is random, and i don't do pressure votes because they're a waste of time. when i vote, i think that person is a good candidate to die at the time. this means you. and yes, posting irrelevant stuff about multilynching is indeed not contributing. what exactly are you waiting for before you start contributing? if the deadline was in 5 minutes, you're the best candidate, wouldn't you agree? The deadline isn´t in 5 minutes... And you are wrong, discussing tactics is important, because things like massclaiming and multilynching needs a following to be of any use. oh you're right, the deadline isn't in five minutes thanks so much for clearing that up. whew.
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Does Trotske talk any in PMs? There´s not much in the Irc from him, just "Watch Hiro" and "Let´s troll"
There were a few other very slow posters, and Kurumi of course. It´s easier to get away with lurking in a PM game, because everyone assume they talk to someone else, which is why we have to ask others if the slow players are lurking or not.
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I'm considering voting either Nisani or Forumite.
Forumite gave me a scummy vibe from the beginning. His posts are empty, and it seems like he's just a distraction to town. Everything he says is irrelevant, even his defense of him being lynched. Overall, he seems scummier.
However, Nisani's slip seems pretty big. Also, he seems to defend people (e.g. Gryemisty) as well, and they defend him back.
I think I'm going to vote Forumite because analysis>anything else in this game.
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##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.
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I want to cook the muffin man.
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I'm not going to have access to my computer for a few hours, posting from my phone. Vote stays on slam500 until he shows a proficiency to post more than generic advice.
If we have any vigs, open fire on lurkers. Who qualifies as a lurker is under your discretion, but i'd like to not have them around, this game is quiet enough as it is.
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Voting Nisani. I don't give 2 shits what happened in your last game ON.
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Voting Nisani as well, its either him or slam500, but atm we have more evidence for Nisani in my opinion.
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Ok so from what I've seen I'm going to vote for Nisani off of what is a pretty bug scumslip. Which means that if Nisani is scum Greymist is definitely scum too. But first we need to lynch Nisani.
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Ack I meant scum not bug sorry iPods are really bad with auto correct.
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On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.
I did give a good defense, and you were in the IRC chatroom while it happened. Don't lie about that shit. (The chat starts at the bottom and ends at the top)
+ Show Spoiler + 14:07 < shinbi> i see
14:06 < Nisani201> so I said that I wasn't sure
14:06 < Nisani201> t as obvious as i thought
14:06 < Nisani201> And then I thought, if he was asking that question, then maybe the answer wasn'
14:06 < shinbi> and then?
14:06 < shinbi> so you thought 'ah, no kp due to night post, let's say that!'
14:05 < shinbi> just run me through the thought process here
14:05 < Nisani201> i'm confused as to what you want me to respond to now
14:05 < Nisani201> i just said
14:05 < shinbi> ?
14:04 < shinbi> and then
14:04 < shinbi> so you posted that with certainty due to that reasoning
14:04 < shinbi> ok nisani
14:04 < shinbi> hold on taa
14:04 < taa> then why didnt you say that?
14:03 < Nisani201> and I figured that there would be no KP because the night post didn't mention sending in kills
14:02 < shinbi> and then?
14:02 < Nisani201> i said it with complete certainty by instinct, because saying things tentatively is even worse
14:02 < Sknowman> "at least, i don't think they can"
14:01 < Sknowman> discrediting it
14:01 < Sknowman> then quickly made a post
14:01 < Sknowman> why you said with complete certainty "Scum had no KP"
14:01 < Sknowman> about
14:01 < Nisani201> ?
14:01 < Nisani201> about how I thought mafia didn't have any KP last night
14:00 < Sknowman> everything we just talked about
14:00 < Nisani201> explain what
13:59 < Sknowman> care to explain?
13:59 < Sknowman> nisani
I'd vote for you, but unfortunately you probably wont get lynched because I guess I'm the only one who sees through this bullshit. So instead I'm going to vote for the second best lynch, which is slam500.
##Vote: slam500
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On August 17 2011 04:33 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one. I did give a good defense, and you were in the IRC chatroom while it happened. Don't lie about that shit. (The chat starts at the bottom and ends at the top) + Show Spoiler + 14:07 < shinbi> i see
14:06 < Nisani201> so I said that I wasn't sure
14:06 < Nisani201> t as obvious as i thought
14:06 < Nisani201> And then I thought, if he was asking that question, then maybe the answer wasn'
14:06 < shinbi> and then?
14:06 < shinbi> so you thought 'ah, no kp due to night post, let's say that!'
14:05 < shinbi> just run me through the thought process here
14:05 < Nisani201> i'm confused as to what you want me to respond to now
14:05 < Nisani201> i just said
14:05 < shinbi> ?
14:04 < shinbi> and then
14:04 < shinbi> so you posted that with certainty due to that reasoning
14:04 < shinbi> ok nisani
14:04 < shinbi> hold on taa
14:04 < taa> then why didnt you say that?
14:03 < Nisani201> and I figured that there would be no KP because the night post didn't mention sending in kills
14:02 < shinbi> and then?
14:02 < Nisani201> i said it with complete certainty by instinct, because saying things tentatively is even worse
14:02 < Sknowman> "at least, i don't think they can"
14:01 < Sknowman> discrediting it
14:01 < Sknowman> then quickly made a post
14:01 < Sknowman> why you said with complete certainty "Scum had no KP"
14:01 < Sknowman> about
14:01 < Nisani201> ?
14:01 < Nisani201> about how I thought mafia didn't have any KP last night
14:00 < Sknowman> everything we just talked about
14:00 < Nisani201> explain what
13:59 < Sknowman> care to explain?
13:59 < Sknowman> nisani I'd vote for you, but unfortunately you probably wont get lynched because I guess I'm the only one who sees through this bullshit. So instead I'm going to vote for the second best lynch, which is slam500. ##Vote: slam500
I dont know why everyone is jumping on it as a scumslip as I figured that was the case anyways ._.
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On August 16 2011 04:08 Nisani201 wrote:
At least, I don't think they can.
This is the scum slip imo. not that he thinks that mafia didn't have any KP. Why would he try to make himself look like he wasn't sure unless after he posted he realized it wasn't common knowledge. I mean most people prob thought that the scum must not have had KP last night but hes the person who said it then tried to make it look like he wasn't certain.
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On August 17 2011 05:01 Trotske wrote:This is the scum slip imo. not that he thinks that mafia didn't have any KP. Why would he try to make himself look like he wasn't sure unless after he posted he realized it wasn't common knowledge. I mean most people prob thought that the scum must not have had KP last night but hes the person who said it then tried to make it look like he wasn't certain.
Did you read the chat logs? I explained the reasoning for that post in the chat logs.
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On August 17 2011 04:38 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 04:33 Nisani201 wrote:On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one. I did give a good defense, and you were in the IRC chatroom while it happened. Don't lie about that shit. (The chat starts at the bottom and ends at the top) + Show Spoiler + 14:07 < shinbi> i see
14:06 < Nisani201> so I said that I wasn't sure
14:06 < Nisani201> t as obvious as i thought
14:06 < Nisani201> And then I thought, if he was asking that question, then maybe the answer wasn'
14:06 < shinbi> and then?
14:06 < shinbi> so you thought 'ah, no kp due to night post, let's say that!'
14:05 < shinbi> just run me through the thought process here
14:05 < Nisani201> i'm confused as to what you want me to respond to now
14:05 < Nisani201> i just said
14:05 < shinbi> ?
14:04 < shinbi> and then
14:04 < shinbi> so you posted that with certainty due to that reasoning
14:04 < shinbi> ok nisani
14:04 < shinbi> hold on taa
14:04 < taa> then why didnt you say that?
14:03 < Nisani201> and I figured that there would be no KP because the night post didn't mention sending in kills
14:02 < shinbi> and then?
14:02 < Nisani201> i said it with complete certainty by instinct, because saying things tentatively is even worse
14:02 < Sknowman> "at least, i don't think they can"
14:01 < Sknowman> discrediting it
14:01 < Sknowman> then quickly made a post
14:01 < Sknowman> why you said with complete certainty "Scum had no KP"
14:01 < Sknowman> about
14:01 < Nisani201> ?
14:01 < Nisani201> about how I thought mafia didn't have any KP last night
14:00 < Sknowman> everything we just talked about
14:00 < Nisani201> explain what
13:59 < Sknowman> care to explain?
13:59 < Sknowman> nisani I'd vote for you, but unfortunately you probably wont get lynched because I guess I'm the only one who sees through this bullshit. So instead I'm going to vote for the second best lynch, which is slam500. ##Vote: slam500 I dont know why everyone is jumping on it as a scumslip as I figured that was the case anyways ._.
Huh?
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Here is another reason why slam500 is a better lynch, he provides more information than me. From the IRC: (this one starts at the top like a normal convo)
+ Show Spoiler +01:27 < Varpulis> the alignments of the guys defending you 01:27 < Nisani201> who is defending m 01:27 < Varpulis> or at least hints to it 01:27 < Varpulis> ON 01:27 < Nisani201> if i flip town, ON could still be mafia 01:27 < Nisani201> trying to make friends 01:29 -!- Kurumi [Kurumi@host-81-190-111-34.gdynia.mm.pl] has quit [Ping timeout] 01:29 < Varpulis> good point 01:29 < Varpulis> but if you're mafia, guess who's also mafia? 01:29 < Nisani201> who? 01:29 < Varpulis> ON, for defending you to the last 01:30 < Nisani201> what if ON is a dt 01:30 < Nisani201> and detected me last night 01:30 < Nisani201> oh well i guess you're under the assumption that i'm scum, so that doesn't work 01:31 < Navillus> also i think greymist is still much more suspicious if you flip scum, i mean it would be really stupid to have 2 scum defend you hard bc then if we lynch you theyre really fucked 01:32 < Nisani201> the problem with you're plan 01:32 < Nisani201> is that i'm not scum 01:32 < Navillus> well i saw that coming 01:32 < Nisani201> if I flip townie, what information will you gain? 01:33 < Nisani201> furthermore, if slam500 gets lynched, it provides information on navillus 01:33 < Nisani201> not matter which way he flips 01:33 < Navillus> if you flip town i will gain info, less info and harder to find info but i will gain it 01:33 < Nisani201> what info is gained if i flip town? 01:33 < Nisani201> brb 01:34 < Navillus> now i would share but im actually working under the assumption that you will have bright red blood when we kill you and so that would be a bad idea 01:36 < Nisani201> so if i flip town 01:36 < Nisani201> no information will be gained
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That seems to talk about why you are a good lynch... also I like, no I actually love how you're saying that varp and I are the "defenders" of slam when we are 2 of the 3 people voting for him right now
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