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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
BC and Flamewheel, you come in here and say how awful the current state of the thread is, yet make no effort to remedy the situation. Do you guys even care about your mid-term grades?
Node, DoctorHelvetica, RebirthOfLeGenD you have one confirmation post. Truancy is not to be tolerated.
Kurumi, can you confirm you no longer are required to troll now that your role has been removed? If that's the case, no Recess for you. Also, since you're now vanilla, could you please claim what your original role was?
Now to today's lynch: Kavdragon
Earlier people asked if they thought personalities were tied to alignment. While I think this is generally not the case, there are two that most likely are: JimboSilvers, the Serial Killer, and Chezinu, the leader of the brown.
Think to yourself as if you were in Ver's position and wanted to give the Chezinu personality a brown related role. Would it be town aligned, mafia aligned, or third party? Earlier when I straight out asked him if he was third party, he made no effort to deny it. A cultist makes the most sense considering the flavor of his role. The last thing we want to worry about is a recruiting role.
He is trolling the thread with his Walton nonsense. He has made no attempt at contributing with the exception of the Aidnai attack. I'm not sure why so many people are so willing to ignore the player who is so likely to be third party. If we can take out an anti-town player on day one, we should take the opportunity. He also currently has the lowest report card score. Time to put him out of his misery.
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We should probably have Kenpachi nameclaim in order to verify what the hell is going on.
And the whole Pandain thing is getting ridiculous. What he did was idiotic, no doubt, but was it scummy? I can't see scum getting so caught up in the flavor that he thought he was getting townie points by removing BM. However, most people can't seem to think that any townie would ever do that so there we go.
It's pretty much a one-note case that will most likely end up being our lynch for the day and I don't want our day 1 to revolve around it. Thus...
##Kill: Pandain
Now let's start playing this game.
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Scamp, if you really think dayvigging pandain is going to end all conversation on stupid things, you're an idiot.
Pandain, if you're here, you should probably claim your role etc before you die..!
(also wtf town? I go to bed and theres only 4 or 5 new posts!?)
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@Palmar
I can't explain why I claimed already. It's incredibly stupid and serves no purpose, but suffice to say I had compelling reasons.
@Barundar
That's the weakest scummy argument I've ever seen. I asked Jackal "what's your alignment" so I could piece together what Kurumi's would likely be. It obviously had a reason. Do you disagree that Town given scum to tunnel makes no sense? What exactly did I flip flop in?
@Jackal58
Nevermind, THAT'S the weakest scummy argument I've ever seen. Posting a pic LOL.
I'd like to call out deconduo and LSB, who came in early and made a few appear to be contributing posts then dropped off the face of the Earth. Where you at?
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I don't understand why you would day vig someone who you think is town, if anything it can only make the situation worse if he flips town
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Fuck, I'm ruining my cool 2k post count by posting this.
Scamp, what the hell man? If Pandain flips town you should be the one hanging. Things like "I don't think he's scum but I'll shoot him anyway" is exactly why pandain was under suspicion anyway.
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On August 14 2011 23:57 Curu wrote:
@Palmar
I can't explain why I claimed already. It's incredibly stupid and serves no purpose, but suffice to say I had compelling reasons.
I take that to mean you have a posting restriction.
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On August 14 2011 23:43 Scamp wrote:
We should probably have Kenpachi nameclaim in order to verify what the hell is going on.
And the whole Pandain thing is getting ridiculous. What he did was idiotic, no doubt, but was it scummy? I can't see scum getting so caught up in the flavor that he thought he was getting townie points by removing BM. However, most people can't seem to think that any townie would ever do that so there we go.
It's pretty much a one-note case that will most likely end up being our lynch for the day and I don't want our day 1 to revolve around it. Thus...
##Kill: Pandain
Now let's start playing this game.
What exactly do you want day 1 to revolve around? Why most vigs are dumb?
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On August 14 2011 23:38 kitaman27 wrote:
BC and Flamewheel, you come in here and say how awful the current state of the thread is, yet make no effort to remedy the situation. Do you guys even care about your mid-term grades?
Node, DoctorHelvetica, RebirthOfLeGenD you have one confirmation post. Truancy is not to be tolerated.
Kurumi, can you confirm you no longer are required to troll now that your role has been removed? If that's the case, no Recess for you. Also, since you're now vanilla, could you please claim what your original role was?
I completely agree with this.
Now to today's lynch: Kavdragon
Earlier people asked if they thought personalities were tied to alignment. While I think this is generally not the case, there are two that most likely are: JimboSilvers, the Serial Killer, and Chezinu, the leader of the brown.
Think to yourself as if you were in Ver's position and wanted to give the Chezinu personality a brown related role. Would it be town aligned, mafia aligned, or third party? Earlier when I straight out asked him if he was third party, he made no effort to deny it. A cultist makes the most sense considering the flavor of his role. The last thing we want to worry about is a recruiting role.
He is trolling the thread with his Walton nonsense. He has made no attempt at contributing with the exception of the Aidnai attack. I'm not sure why so many people are so willing to ignore the player who is so likely to be third party. If we can take out an anti-town player on day one, we should take the opportunity. He also currently has the lowest report card score. Time to put him out of his misery.
Not this.
Third Party is Black, not Brown. Silly kita just trying to lynch Kavdragon day one again.
Must I point out everything?
+ Show Spoiler +On August 14 2011 05:03 Kavdragon wrote:Look at the town go round and round with their spammy arguments. I'll be out of a job at this rate my old friend. Everyone is so unhappy with things, why can't we just get along? Brown isn't a third party, it's the ONLY party. Sad...Very sad. Very well, in an attempt to make people happy, I will read you all a letter I just intercepted. I don't know who it was for, but I found that the author is someone by the name of Uncle Screwtape Flamewheel! Show nested quote +Original Message From flamewheel:
Dear Walton,
I am pleased to see that your efforts to take over the town seem to be off to a swiming start. The town is caught up in their cute role-playing games, and even those who are calling them out are only role-playing themselves! Ha, this is sure to be an easy victory. First and foremost, you need to let the town do their own thing for a little while, nobody has shown up to really lead the town, and if you let them start the meham themselves, some townie will take the fall for it. So let them be, but once they start getting into the roleplaying, you MUST make sure that they continue posting only roleplay content, and nothing useful. Thankfully stage one is almost complete, and people are in shouting maches already! You will want to step in soon however, to avoid mod-kill, as that would be both a great victory for the town, and a travesty for the Mafia. I'm very interested in how this will all turn out, so don't dissapoint me.
Wishing to an early townie lynch, and swift lylo for town,
Flamewheel I found this letter detailing the mafia's plans and published it so that people would stop hiding behind their roleplay, and actually use it to be useful. Oh look. I lead by example too. Just because you don't understand walton, doesn't mean that it's spam or trolling. But I'm told that we've just received a letter from that source, so expect some more news on that end. On August 14 2011 07:19 Kavdragon wrote:
Kurumi is being a silly fellow, saying that we are only compelled to fulfill our win conditions. It's called Personality Mafia for a reason...I think. Wait. No. Now I get it. Yes, it's for a reason! Why are you being silly Kurumi?
Next topic: People are ignoring Walton. We must find Walton as I think that there is more to gain from his death than just a scum's head. I realize that I have given you nothing to go by, but I have devised from the letter that he has been inactive. Those who have not posted yet are suspect. Walton is among them.
To those who would accuse me of trolling. Trolling is for mafia. I may do things a little different, but every one of my posts has had a purpose. I even promised (Ver is my witness, unfortunately he's not playing) that I would keep the riddles to a bare minimum!
Point out some stuff, in voice. Give more information I received on Watson. Explain myself while fulfilling obligations. On August 14 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 07:30 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 07:30 Jackal58 wrote:
Never mind Kurumi. nah don't worry tomorrow I will laugh how dumb those jubjubs are and how bad it was to roll town in this game Yeah it sucks, but don't take it too seriously man, It was Pandain who did it. That's not unusual for him as I see it. Plz stay in the game and help the town. If you feel like you have lost your purpose, you could always join the Brown Empire. We feel your pain. I agree, he should join the Brown Empire. He'd be very welcome here, and would be able to help the town better. It's settled then? Yes, it is. Kurumi, your invitation is official. Do you join the Empire? Try to get Kurumi to stop spamming, and make him feel better so that he will try to work for the town, and not against it. On August 14 2011 08:17 Kavdragon wrote:
My goodness, there's a LOT of spam.
I completely agree, this must be what Walton was told to encourage...We must be careful, very careful.
Yes, but how are we to stop it? I mean, simply pointing it out might not work.
I know! What if we were to point out the fact that the whole Kurumi/Pandain thing will sort itself out in time, and should be left alone for now. There really isn't any reason for them to keep fighting you know.
Too true! Not to mention the fact that at this rate we'll be swimming in one line posts. Really. You'd think they would know better. But now, we'd better add something to the conversation so that we aren't hypocritical!
Absolutely!, Let's start with the Lurkers. There are a few people who haven't posted yet, and that can't be allowed. I mean, even beyond the fact that Walton is hiding in there, anyone who is not posting is making a perfect hiding place for other mafia.
Yes, I believe that this is the standard question that we usually start our discussions with. It will be interesting if people will be receptive to lynching an inactive...
Oh my! I've just received a message from my source that Walton may be posting soon!
We'll have to cut this short then To work! Also, see if you can't convince Kurumi to help search for him.
Will do!
Oh, and Kav?
Yeah?
Don't let Walton get away. More commentary on how spammy things are, more information on Walton. On August 14 2011 12:30 Kavdragon wrote:
CRAP. I just lost about two hours worth of a post, and I'm a little frustrated about it so I'm going to say this out of character so I don't have to type that up again:
There are 11 people who have posted under 1 post. More than half of them haven't posted once, and the remainder has not posted anything meaningful. This constitutes more than third of our player base and is a REALLY BAD THING. We need to drop the kurumi/jackal argument if we are to make any progress at this point. We need to put pressure on the lurkers, and I don't mean your typical "Should we lynch inactives" type of pressure. I mean real nooses, real stakes, real lynches. We absolutly cannot allow that many players to get off the hook.
Amongst those players are some of the best mafia players in the game. BC, Flamewheel, Fishball, RoL, and Dr.H are just a few of those that come to mind from the list I made earlier. I don't think that we should lynch people who are really good day one, but I do think that we should lynch those who are not as big a risk to lynch. (Not as much to lose by the lynch). These include Barundar, Aidnai, and Node, and perhaps one or two others.
I repeat, we need to focus on the completely inactive because this is worse than I have ever seen in a game before.
Barundar
Aidnai
Node
Who's it gonna be? Set a trap for people who are inactive. On August 14 2011 13:18 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 12:58 aidnai wrote:On August 14 2011 12:30 Kavdragon wrote:
CRAP. I just lost about two hours worth of a post, and I'm a little frustrated about it so I'm going to say this out of character so I don't have to type that up again:
There are 11 people who have posted under 1 post. More than half of them haven't posted once, and the remainder has not posted anything meaningful. This constitutes more than third of our player base and is a REALLY BAD THING. We need to drop the kurumi/jackal argument if we are to make any progress at this point. We need to put pressure on the lurkers, and I don't mean your typical "Should we lynch inactives" type of pressure. I mean real nooses, real stakes, real lynches. We absolutly cannot allow that many players to get off the hook.
Amongst those players are some of the best mafia players in the game. BC, Flamewheel, Fishball, RoL, and Dr.H are just a few of those that come to mind from the list I made earlier. I don't think that we should lynch people who are really good day one, but I do think that we should lynch those who are not as big a risk to lynch. (Not as much to lose by the lynch). These include Barundar, Aidnai, and Node, and perhaps one or two others.
I repeat, we need to focus on the completely inactive because this is worse than I have ever seen in a game before.
Barundar
Aidnai
Node
Who's it gonna be? it starts already huh? bwahaha, this is amazing-- you know who you're messing with, yet you post it anyway? Ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of full disclosure, I would like to inform you all that Kavdragon is aware that I have not had internet access until now, as we just arrived home from a road trip today. Additionally, he is in the habit of seeking my opinion for mafia games, which I believe shows a certain amount of respect for my abilities. Now, whether I'm actually any good isn't the point--what is amazing to me though is that I get tossed into a bin of "not much to lose if mislynched" players. Quick recap: 1) Kavdragon puts me on a lurker list even though he knows why I haven't posted yet 2) Kavdragon downplays my skill in this game when in other games he has repeatedly asked for my advice. One to add to the list... 3) Deliberately being useless and trolling even after multiple people requested that it stop. Wanna hear an explanation for all this, since the only thing I can think of off hand is that kav is scum. Well I must admit, that was much faster than I expected. I thought it would take at least a few hours, but I guess if you are paying attention to the thread (but not posting) you can respond quickly. Right, so in case it wasn't that obvious, lynching someone who has zero posts is almost always a horrible idea because mafia will ALWAYS get one of their own to post something before the lynch. The purpose of calling on people to lynch them was to get them to talk. Those that are legitimately afk, and unable to post don't respond to pressure. Those that can, do. So the question is, why weren't you posting before, Aidnai? (And don't tell me "I've been gone on a road trip." As you yourself admitted I was with you. Yet here I am, posting. ) Anyways, this is pretty much textbook. Mafia will respond right away, and be really defensive. Nobody even so much as mentioned my post about lynching one of those three, and yet Aidnai comes with a really defensive tone. It's interesting that he brings up the fact that I ask for his advice sometimes, as evidence that he should be included in the higher bracket of players. I'm sorry, but I don't hold you in the same regard as BC or Flamewheel. I'm not talking about "just good" players. I was pretty clear that I meant really really good players. I won't lynch BC unless there is extremely convincing evidence day one. I wouldn't hold the same true for someone of my skill level though. (Unless it was in a mini with a bunch of noobs or something). Then the finishing touch on the textbook response, he accuses me of being scum. LOL. Chainsaw defense anyone? ##Vote: Aidnai Shut the trap.
Except for my first few posts, NONE of my posts have been trolling or spam. They all have a purpose. You just have to look beyond the voice that I'm using. (It's not hard.)
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Well well, what's it say!?
I don't know, I've not opened it yet!
Well hurry up you oaf! Read it out loud now!
Hmph. Let's see.
I am pleased to inform you that I have discovered the identity of the Walton in the letter. You really are as good as they say...you already found him. His pseudonym is...Aidnai. But listen to me now. I have found far more devious information, and although I'm afraid I may have put myself in danger finding this out, I must tell you: You are in grave danger. I cannot tell how, or when, but. Well. I'd stay away from Bars.
You realize what this means?
I believe so. We must show the town that he is scum.
Yes, but we must also do it quickly. Very quickly.
Hmm. I've an idea. We are 100% sure that he is scum, right?
Correct. 100%. The letter confirmed our suspicions.
So...well. A 1-1 trade benefits the town.
Are you suggesting....
Yes my friend. It's been good, but even though our analysis of Aidnai was correct, people aren't listening, and they probably aren't even thinking about the fact that Aidnai just disappeared after that.
Yes, that's an excellent point. Aidnai came in, defended himself, accused us of not contributing anything to the thread, and then left. Ironic, isn't it?
No, I think that would be Hypocritical, but whatever. The point is we MUST kill Walton/Aidnai, and if that means we die too, then so be it.
Hello town. We'd like you to kill Aidnai and Us I. Preferably in that order so that I don't actually have to die, but if not, I'll accept the 1-1 trade, as it still benefits town. Beyond his obviously scum like reactions, I know from my source that he is Evil Scum.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On August 15 2011 00:41 Kavdragon wrote:
Third Party is Black, not Brown. Silly kita just trying to lynch Kavdragon day one again.
Nope, I would lynch anyone that is anti-town. It just happens I lucked out and its you. 
He hasn't even attempted to deny that he isn't town. Go Go ##Vote Kavdragon. You're about to flunk.
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Kitaman has said literally nothing this game, his only analysis has been a flimsy "Kavdragon is Chez, so Chez must be third party". That is just BS, Brown is a mixure of all the alignments, anyone can be brown. Not just third party.
Lynch him and see why I'm the best mafia player in the world
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So Kav is playing Chezinu. The question is is Aidnai on his scum team and he's attempting to recruit new players to it while offing the originals or is he 3rd party?
Or is he town and just stuck having to bark like a dog?
He has apparently already recruited Kurumi. Lynching Kurumi to see what he flips as may shed an enormous amount of light upon Kav. Kill Bill Murray. Kill him now!!!!!
I'm also very disappointed at the participation level in this game. Step it up you fucking slackers.
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On August 15 2011 01:59 LSB wrote:
Kitaman has said literally nothing this game, his only analysis has been a flimsy "Kavdragon is Chez, so Chez must be third party". That is just BS, Brown is a mixure of all the alignments, anyone can be brown. Not just third party.
Lynch him and see why I'm the best mafia player in the world
Of course we could always lynch the Ace persona.
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Since nobody is saying anything..........
ok!
#vote aidnai
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Any discussion of brown will now be henceforth labeled as spam and ignored.
Ignore List
Kurumi (Relentless Spam)
Kavdragon (Relentless Spam)
Aidnai (Nothing but brown spam)
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On August 15 2011 01:59 LSB wrote:
Kitaman has said literally nothing this game
lol you need to look in the mirror
On August 15 2011 01:59 LSB wrote:
His only analysis has been a flimsy "Kavdragon is Chez, so Chez must be third party".
That is just BS, Brown is a mixure of all the alignments, anyone can be brown. Not just third party.
On August 15 2011 02:06 LSB wrote:
Any discussion of brown will now be henceforth labeled as spam and ignored.
Green is town. Brown is not town.
Did I touch upon a sensitive issue perhaps? 
On August 15 2011 02:05 tnkted wrote:
Since nobody is saying anything..........
ok!
#vote aidnai
Why aidnai and not kav? What made you choose one over the other?
Considering how excited you sounded pre-game, your effort so far has been rather lackluster.
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Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon
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I think Kav is either pulling some sort of giganticly complex gambit to get people to mislynch day 1, causing his eventual roleclaim and death d2, or he's telling the truth and his weird spam is actually part of his role flavor. He is chezinu after all. If he could simply say something like, "mafia has a town mole thats telling me things" he probably would. But he isn't! Because he's Chez, and that's too easy.
And I'm not acting lackluster! I always play like this. This is me excited!!!! See? that was four exclaimation marks. That means that sentence is FOUR times as exciting as this sentence! My role list:
Personalities
Jackal: L
Kurumi: BM
Pandain: Qatol
Kavdragon: Chezinu
Sandaroba: Ver
Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph?
kenpachi: RoL
Meapak_Zipph: could be Ace.
Foolishness: Bumatlarge
Curu: Foolishness
Walton: Aidnai
I think that's everyone.
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