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On August 07 2011 01:10 syllogism wrote:
The votes are so spread out that I'll rather vote to lynch someone who isn't going to be useful or make his alignment apparent than risk lynching someone more active when scum can potentially just redirect the lynch. I'll be around for the lynch though so I'll re-evaluate if necessary.
##vote Coagulation
who says coag isnt goingto be useful?
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On August 06 2011 23:44 syllogism wrote:
Mig, I'm curious to hear what you think about Palmar's play so far
I think it is scummy. N0 palmar was one of the most active players, all his activity was centered around his joke cult but at least he was posting frequently. Once day starts palmar basically stops posting anything longer than 1 line. If you filter palmar's posts you will see even now almost half his posts were made n0. Normally you would think he would be more active once the game actually started not less. If we are dealing with a n0 recruiter a sudden shift in activity level could be very telling.
Then if you look at his soft attacks on me/redff early on they feel un-palmar like. He gives almost no reasons behind them and puts no pressure on either of us. He has done virtually no scum hunting this game other than soft attacks and now responding to amber.
Finally his defense against amber is weak. He says he hasn't been active because he is out of town, I am not saying that is necessarily scummy but we can only use what information we have in game so this doesn't tell us anything. And he says that amber's attack on him is wishy washy which is definitely a stretch.
I still think Coag is suspicious for disappearing and not making any attempts to build a case against trotske. But after thinking on it more I think Palmar is the most likely to be scum.
##Unvote Coagulation
##Vote Palmar
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The last two games I played with Coagulation he had like 10 posts combined in them. And they were all one sentence or less.
Don't see anything different happening in this one.
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No one has more than 2 votes as far as I can tell. We need to consolidate. I'm torn between coag, amber and palmar. Tempted to lynch Palmar, but I would like to hear more from him first. You around palmar?
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You dont fucking know me curu. YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY FOO
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On August 07 2011 05:02 Coagulation wrote:
You dont fucking know me curu. YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY FOO
Coag if you thought trotske was scummy why not actually make any case against him? You ignored my last post mentioning this.
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On August 07 2011 04:47 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 23:44 syllogism wrote:
Mig, I'm curious to hear what you think about Palmar's play so far I think it is scummy. N0 palmar was one of the most active players, all his activity was centered around his joke cult but at least he was posting frequently. Once day starts palmar basically stops posting anything longer than 1 line. If you filter palmar's posts you will see even now almost half his posts were made n0. Normally you would think he would be more active once the game actually started not less. If we are dealing with a n0 recruiter a sudden shift in activity level could be very telling. Then if you look at his soft attacks on me/redff early on they feel un-palmar like. He gives almost no reasons behind them and puts no pressure on either of us. He has done virtually no scum hunting this game other than soft attacks and now responding to amber. Finally his defense against amber is weak. He says he hasn't been active because he is out of town, I am not saying that is necessarily scummy but we can only use what information we have in game so this doesn't tell us anything. And he says that amber's attack on him is wishy washy which is definitely a stretch. I still think Coag is suspicious for disappearing and not making any attempts to build a case against trotske. But after thinking on it more I think Palmar is the most likely to be scum.
##Unvote Coagulation
##Vote Palmar
Just noting that Jackal made the same claim on Day 1 in PTP2 after Voldemort was discovered and pro-town, after night 1 Jackal was hit and flipped scum. That's a pretty scummy defense to just say "I'm out of town."
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Aight someone tell me bout Coagulation!
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sorry guys for the low activity, will evaluate the situation and probably vote either coagulation or palmar when I'm back at my computer. Trotske is pretty bad, going to be rolling under the assumption that his accusations and crappy logic are because of that, not that he's scum.
coagulation, why so inactive? I don't care if it's your meta, a little more effort would be nice.
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I don't like the case on Coagulation, as it's basically just lynching the lurker. Coagulation is always completely useless on day 1, lynching him isn't bad, per se, it's just sort of ...derp. It's like lynching Kenpachi. The entire case is that he sucks.
I'd rather you guys took a look at Amber's posting. redFF is another one that is basically playing exactly like I'd expect him to as scum, posting mostly one-liners. His play this time looks similar to his AA play aside from randomly defending townies.
I'll be around for another 30 minutes, I think, but then I'm off for the night, so if you want to know anything specific syllo, make it quick.
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On August 07 2011 05:33 Varpulis wrote:
sorry guys for the low activity, will evaluate the situation and probably vote either coagulation or palmar when I'm back at my computer. Trotske is pretty bad, going to be rolling under the assumption that his accusations and crappy logic are because of that, not that he's scum.
coagulation, why so inactive? I don't care if it's your meta, a little more effort would be nice.
please point out my crappy logic so I can be better don't just say i'm bad but hes a townie.... unless your just trying to discredit me.
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I'm willing to believe Palmar's claim about genuinely being away. If he doesn't revert to his standard play on day 2, we'll lynch him. That leaves Amber and Coag for today. Amber, I find your non-meta reasons for voting palmar quite suspicious, especially this bit
"his pregame cult thing kinda got me nervous. It's a good cover up to hang backon later in the game.
What does that even mean?
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On August 07 2011 05:06 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 05:02 Coagulation wrote:
You dont fucking know me curu. YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY FOO Coag if you thought trotske was scummy why not actually make any case against him? You ignored my last post mentioning this.
Because i dont have a case on him worth wasting towns time.
Its a placeholder vote Its a fucking vote on the 1 person that gave me red flags with the crumb and shit. ITS A PRESSURE VOTE TO SEE HOW HE AND HIS SCUM BROS RESPOND. ITS AN ACTION TO GET INFORMATION TO BUILD A CASE. Im sorry but im not gonna make up fucking shit and try to get trotske lynched just because its "DAY1" OMG I NEED A CASE TO PUSH. Im not here to buy town cred.
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Why is his crumbing scummy, and your crumbing ok Coag?
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On August 07 2011 05:57 syllogism wrote:
I'm willing to believe Palmar's claim about genuinely being away. If he doesn't revert to his standard play on day 2, we'll lynch him. That leaves Amber and Coag for today. Amber, I find your non-meta reasons for voting palmar quite suspicious, especially this bit
"his pregame cult thing kinda got me nervous. It's a good cover up to hang backon later in the game.
What does that even mean?
It seems like a good plan for late game to hide himself behind the fact that he was kidding with recruiting people via the thread. I don't really think this makes him scummy necessarily, it's just the first thing I noticed when his post quality declined from pre-game to the actual game.
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On August 07 2011 06:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 05:57 syllogism wrote:
I'm willing to believe Palmar's claim about genuinely being away. If he doesn't revert to his standard play on day 2, we'll lynch him. That leaves Amber and Coag for today. Amber, I find your non-meta reasons for voting palmar quite suspicious, especially this bit
"his pregame cult thing kinda got me nervous. It's a good cover up to hang backon later in the game.
What does that even mean? It seems like a good plan for late game to hide himself behind the fact that he was kidding with recruiting people via the thread. I don't really think this makes him scummy necessarily, it's just the first thing I noticed when his post quality declined from pre-game to the actual game.
So now you're retracting your FoS on me when it meets any kind of resistance? Best not stick your neck out?
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Though I do find it weird that no one is coming to Palmars defense on this one.
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On August 07 2011 06:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2011 06:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:On August 07 2011 05:57 syllogism wrote:
I'm willing to believe Palmar's claim about genuinely being away. If he doesn't revert to his standard play on day 2, we'll lynch him. That leaves Amber and Coag for today. Amber, I find your non-meta reasons for voting palmar quite suspicious, especially this bit
"his pregame cult thing kinda got me nervous. It's a good cover up to hang backon later in the game.
What does that even mean? It seems like a good plan for late game to hide himself behind the fact that he was kidding with recruiting people via the thread. I don't really think this makes him scummy necessarily, it's just the first thing I noticed when his post quality declined from pre-game to the actual game. So now you're retracting your FoS on me when it meets any kind of resistance? Best not stick your neck out?
I never said that.
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On August 07 2011 00:16 redFF wrote:K my thoughts. Amber is actually making posts and fos'ing people and doing analysis, which is more then i've seen him do as scum. Trotske just isn't very good. Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 18:10 bumatlarge wrote:
Yeah the votes are really spread out. Perhaps we should narrow down candidates, so that we can actually have something to go on for later. In a recruiting set-up, it is generally accepted that vets get picked up nearly 90% of the time. The recruiter forces town to lose a valuable asset, while bolstering his team more effectively then normal. Aside from that, we don't have any evidence supporting that this so it shouldn't have any impact on who we lynch.
Mig, Curu, or redff are all viable picks, and we should probably keep it between these three unless someone feels otherwise. I don't like the last part of his post. He's basically saying "let's lynch into these 3 people because I said so. Honestly all it loos like is mafia Trying to control town/divert lynches. Bum, why not keep it between coag, amber and Palmar instead?
Because they are all scummy. Mig has been aggressive since he started posting, and he actually made a vote based on the cult thing, which I find absurd with all the amount of WIFOM surrounding that. Curu's initial posting was called out quick but it's a point to mention that he was doing it. Finding an excuse to not post anything relevant is a fantastic way to not be an issue. That's why I'm proud no one let him do it. That's why chezinu is difficult to play with, because you need to be able to read what people are posting.
And you redff, are scummy because
On August 05 2011 06:55 redFF wrote:
NOOOO JAEDONGGGGGGGG NOOOOO
btw i think we all may have got the same role pm at the start of n0 so your intentions are moot.
When did you 'figure this out'? I was extremely suspicious of you ever since that post, because I was still in the dark at this point. To come to this conclusion made me think you had something happen between night 0 and day 1.
But other then that I guess there are other good candidates. I definetly was trying to manage the vote because I still see we have no more then 2 votes on every person, and knowing everyone its going to be a massive shock when some last minute switches go down. Put some reasons down, then put your vote with it. Repeatedly posting someone's name in red does not make them scum. Though coag has been lurking so I guess I should shut up.
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First you call me scum based on my pre-game cult thing
On August 06 2011 10:45 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I always find it fascinating to see how the pregame chat changes as soon as day starts. With that said I really think palmar is the best lynch candidate as of right now. His pregame cult thing kinda got me nervous. It's a good cover up to hang backon later in the game.
#vote: Palmar
And then you say it's not scummy.
On August 07 2011 06:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:
It seems like a good plan for late game to hide himself behind the fact that he was kidding with recruiting people via the thread. I don't really think this makes him scummy necessarily, it's just the first thing I noticed when his post quality declined from pre-game to the actual game.
Awesome!
Oh if you actually don't think it's scummy (why the hell do you vote someone who you don't think is scummy?) Then your entire argument is "his activity changed", something I've already cleared up in the thread.
You should be lynched.
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