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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 05 2011 21:19 GMT
#664
On August 06 2011 06:17 Barundar wrote:
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On August 06 2011 04:51 Sevryn wrote:
On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

I'm sorry I'm catching up on the thread how am I connected to these people?

Sevrin the problem is you are the most invisible poster in the thread, I can't remember anything of your stances or posts, neither good or bad. If you are town you should try and be more active and involved.

For an example you could look into YM and chaos13?

reminds me of someone
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 05 2011 23:40 GMT
#666
On August 06 2011 00:50 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 06 2011 00:32 redFF wrote:
On August 03 2011 09:12 redFF wrote:
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Amazing . Just like the warning You got .

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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 06 2011 01:52 GMT
#676
Ok it seems like Jeejee is gonna be lynched. I don't wanna waste half a day so lets move on to other suspects. What do people think of my case on Ghrur? What do people think of lucid? What do people think of Chaos13? Of munke? Of ym? i dont want this thread to die.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 06 2011 03:00 GMT
#686
On August 06 2011 11:34 ghrur wrote:
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On August 06 2011 11:19 youngminii wrote:
ok so when jeejee flips green can we kill bc?


You do realize no matter what he flips we're going to kill you right?
Like, how can any townie be so sure of another person's role/alignment so as to say he'll DT check green and flip green? At best, it's mafia trying to gain town cred. At worst, it's just mafia trying to protect the godfather.

no...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 06 2011 03:01 GMT
#687
On August 06 2011 12:00 redFF wrote:
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On August 06 2011 11:34 ghrur wrote:
On August 06 2011 11:19 youngminii wrote:
ok so when jeejee flips green can we kill bc?


You do realize no matter what he flips we're going to kill you right?
Like, how can any townie be so sure of another person's role/alignment so as to say he'll DT check green and flip green? At best, it's mafia trying to gain town cred. At worst, it's just mafia trying to protect the godfather.

no...

to elaborate this post seems like
"if he flips green we will mislynch again!"
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 06 2011 03:16 GMT
#691
btw green=town not vt is how ive always understood it. so saying someone is green implies town aligned not just vt.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 06 2011 03:25 GMT
#692
he was sure jeejee would come back green as a dt check because he thinks jeejee is town. is that so hard to understand?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 00:31 GMT
#753
Oh cool lol. Gj everyone. I'm thinking last 2 scum are within munk, ghrur, chaos, ym and lucid.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 00:47 GMT
#755
On August 07 2011 09:31 Munk-E wrote:
Wait... I just realized the mafia still has a RB... this means that 1 medic is sure to die.

By just realized you mean you looked at your role pm right?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 02:26 GMT
#758
doesnt matter all it would do is provide a hefty chunk of wifom
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 14:53 GMT
#769
The whole point is that jeejee was gf tho
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 18:58 GMT
#796
well looks like the plan worked sorry i doubted you lol, mafia seem to be dumber then we think...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 23:16 GMT
#842
Sorry how is syllogism confirmed veteran? For all we know he could be lying about it.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 23:19 GMT
#843
AHAHAA WAIT MUNKE WAS A VET? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 23:19 GMT
#844
Mig i would like your reasoning to treating syllo as telling the truth and munk-e as lying scum.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 23:42 GMT
#845
Yup so here's a question. If Munk-e was scum for claiming vet and it was unreasonable there were 5 vets when munk-e was alive. How come now hes dead and flipped vet are we not looking at the other claimed vets. And before you say they counterclaimed jeejee, no they didnt. Jeejee claimed medic, not vet. So from a mafia perspective claiming vet/medic would have been fine. I'd like to ask that we dont majority lynch again, as it leaves us with very little vote discussion. This game is not as won as some of you may think.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 23:51 GMT
#847
On August 02 2011 21:04 syllogism wrote:
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On August 02 2011 09:20 chaos13 wrote:
DrH has the right idea here. Yes, confirmed townies are excellent. However, mafia can easily fake claim a role like medic or vig, and then we would need to waste our DT checks in order to confirm those claims. Not only that, but we have no idea who the day vig actually is. If it's in the hands of a weaker player, that could lead to complete and utter disaster. Having one player coordinate all the actions of the blues is never a good thing. There is far too much room for error in such a situation, especially since mafia are able to PM and influence the game as well. Ultimately, however, it is up to the individuals with the roles to decide what to do. Discussion about this is very good, but I would rather not waste all day with it. Just something to keep in mind if we're still arguing about it in 24 hours.

Vigis, because there are probably a lot of you in here: Do not shoot unless it is at confirmed scum. If you feel you must shoot anyway, take out lurkers and liars. This sort of common sense is all too often ignored, and results in dead town. Even take DT claims with a grain of salt. If analysis points to a player being town when a claimed check has shown red, proceed with caution. It could be a miller or a scum's fake claim in order to waste a vig shot, especially if the claimed DT player has been under suspicion.

No one is confirmed scum until they flip. You even go on to say red checks can be millers or the DT fake claiming; vigs should be shooting at people they believe are likely scum. Overall I'm not a huge fan of this post as you joined the anti-sandroba plan wagon quite late, you cover all the angles without really taking a strong position and the part about DTs fake claiming feels a bit forced.

On August 08 2011 03:51 syllogism wrote:
Not much to add. 5 vets would be absurd even with 2 RBs

##vote Munk-E

So then one of the remaining claimed vets is scum then right?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 07 2011 23:52 GMT
#848
Has anyone claimed being blocked today?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 08 2011 00:03 GMT
#849
On August 08 2011 05:37 OriginalName wrote:
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On August 08 2011 05:36 Barundar wrote:
Lulz. Can we lynch YM?


yes.

YEAH FO'SURE LETS MISLYNCH AGAIN.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 08 2011 00:07 GMT
#850
we shouldnt majority lynch tommorow, we should go back to regular lynches and here analysis and cases instead of retardedly lynching ppl off of "scumslips"
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