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On July 18 2011 23:49 Jackal58 wrote: And I thought people from Iceland were chill. Yeah, but not in the sense that you guys use the word. | ||
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On July 19 2011 01:23 Eternalmisfit wrote: How many DT's are you going to kill this time? :D Every single one. And win anyway. | ||
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On July 21 2011 09:10 chaos13 wrote: .....should I? /in target acquired. | ||
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Cause I want someone to compete with me in spamming. | ||
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On July 25 2011 09:36 sandroba wrote: Sup people, I'd like to propose a new policy this game. Instead of lynching lurkers and liars, which produce no info whatsoever, we leave them to be shot at night by our vigs, if they exist. We can adjust acordingly if they fail to do their job. The policy is to lynch all non-sense. People are getting away too easily by throwing random acusations that make no sense to pretend to be scum hunting. This is to pressure mafia into skilfully captalizing into people's mistakes if they want to suceed and survive. They can't lurk, because they will be getting shot, and can't pretend to be dumb, cuz they will get lynched. Of course pressuring people is okay, but if you are pushing hard a lynch for a lynch based on shoody evidence I'll tunnel you into oblivion. So the content of your post is: a) let's actually not lynch liars b) I'll tunnel anyone who dares scumhunt, unless I agree with their methods/arguments. | ||
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I'm pretty sure Jackal is anti-town. Can we just get a day-vig to shoot jackal58, so we can actually get some discussion going, instead of just herping and derping about roles and writing harry potter fanfic? Any day-vig who straight up shoots harry potter in the face is doing this town massive favor. ##Vote Jackal58 | ||
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On July 25 2011 18:38 syllogism wrote: No he doesn't; if anything, this makes him look less likely to be mafia than the people pushing for his lynch. How the hell doesn't he? One thing you should notice when re-reading Jackal's posts is that he was in no hurry to get ON lynched, probably because he already knew how ON would flip. He casually mentions ON possibly being 3rd party, but no vote or pressure or anything. | ||
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I'm sure you're not going to want him around when we approach lylo? | ||
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He is currently the best lynch we have, you even agree with me that it's unlikely Voldemort and Harry Potter would be of the same alignment. I'd prefer it if he got shot, because then we can turn to actually hunting scum. My entire point is that we can be pretty sure that he needs to die at some point, until we have a better lynch for day one, this point could very well be right now. There's only 4 votes on him, no need to spend so much time defending him. Go find a better alternative instead. | ||
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On July 25 2011 19:30 syllogism wrote: You are completely ignoring the previous posts explaining why it is in fact less likely that he is mafia than the people who should know better pushing for his lynch. You are starting to look like a good lynch. I wouldn't expect anything less of you. | ||
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If you're actually correct, he just shot a townie, and made it very, very likely that another townie would get lynched. | ||
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Not that it matters as you should be hanging tonight. | ||
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On July 25 2011 23:51 Tackster wrote: Ok i know i sound like GMarshall here but in the interest of keeping the hunt active who are your top 3 town? Why would he give you town reads? Are you trying to figure out who you should shoot tonight? | ||
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On July 26 2011 00:27 Amber[LighT] wrote: You want to risk a night vigi when there could be a chance of a mafia medic? I was talking about just now, I specifically asked he be day-vigged, so I have no idea why someone thought shooting ym was a better idea. | ||
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On July 26 2011 00:27 sandroba wrote: He had an aligment check that could be used at any time! He was also a vet + vig. How is that not powerful? If someone made a day vig role it's advantegeous for us to know who you made it for, even if it incurs a penalty. If we get multiple claims we can sort it out by having them shooting kita to prove they did not use their shot. oh, he could actually use all his shit on the same day? Then it kinda makes sense they'd shoot him, but I checked back, he never mentioned whom he was going to alignment check. | ||
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On July 26 2011 00:22 sandroba wrote: Whoever shot YM is 100% anti-town. He had an aligment check he was supposed to use today. This only raises my suspicions on kita even more. I actually have a big problem with this, how the hell do you link someone shooting YM, scum or not, to kita? Like, I just don't see the connection, to me it looks like you're making up things that aren't there to push your cause, which seems to be "let's not kill jackal". | ||
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On July 26 2011 01:03 sandroba wrote: hmmm. Jackal has convinently dissapeared. Hi, you're scum. | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I suggest no one quotes supersoft and no one votes for kurumi. Based on how Kurumi is playing, his power seems to require votes instead of fistbumps like palmar from last ptp. Supersoft's power we are told operates via quote levels. how about we don't give two people access to their powers? How about we kill jackal or, each player with an item asks if they can destroy it (as well harry breaks the wand, gets rid of the stone and only keeps the cloak in the books). Letting people run loose with powers when we have no actual confirmed alignment of them is just a bad move. Limit people from acting until they are verified. This does not make any sense. | ||
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Like, I don't get how that logic makes any sense. Remember, no one is forcing you to believe him, but blocking him from using it would be stupid. | ||
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By your own policy we should be lynching you sandroba, and why the hell isn't the alignment check being used on jackal? | ||
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Stop and think about what you're saying. What additional information is the check going to give mafia? It's only an alignment check and not a rolecheck, and the mafia already knows everyone's alignment, barring 3rd parties. If we think he's scummy, we can always kill him. If every target he investigates keeps returning green we just don't trust it. Think of it this way, supersoft checks someone: a) returns green, we completely ignore the result (just assume he didn't check) b) returns red, we test it. If b fails, we kill him. I have no idea how you can not see this. | ||
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On July 26 2011 14:58 DropBear wrote: ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL On Day 1? Hey Palmar, this argument sound familiar? I haven't caught up on the thread yet but I'm switching to BC. Of course, it's standard procedure to accuse me of being scum after I hang a few mafia. | ||
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Syllo, this isn't a normal game, this is the real thing. | ||
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So every game you play BC, do you always wait for every unconfirmed DT to be checked by another DT? Who was confirmed by what means? Supersoft KILLED SCUM, that's good enough for me and should be good enough for you. I'm just going to vote for you until you let him check you. | ||
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I just have no idea how this does even fly, and the constant threats that anyone who votes for you will be held accountable. I'll be the first person to be held accountable for you, I want you checked, or dead. | ||
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if Jackal flips red, I want you checked tonight, actually. You created a policy where you said you'd lynch people for pushing weak cases, and then you posted "Just press filter" and voted for Kita. Half the lurkers in the game could've had the same push against them. And even if you seem to have suddenly turned to liking checking Jackal, at first you were not only against lynching him... no no, you were SO MUCH against lynching him that you were willing to try to lynch me for simply wanting to lynch him, and now you've somehow turned to wanting him checked. I think you're a great target for a DT. | ||
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On July 27 2011 04:58 sandroba wrote: Yes, I'll vote jackal if kita returns green, don't worry. And if jackal flips red, you're dead. | ||
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On July 27 2011 05:06 Curu wrote: supersoft, please change your vote to Jackal. You have the ability to check BC now, no need to lynch him. I can do that, BC already manned up enough to take the test, Jackal didn't. ##Unvote ##Vote Jackal58 | ||
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I'm willing to test that. | ||
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On July 27 2011 05:44 redFF wrote: why am i a good night shot for thinkng you are scum? why do you care what scum says? | ||
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On July 27 2011 05:53 sandroba wrote: hmmm, bc can pretty much self confirm and his role is useless for mafia how can he self confirm? | ||
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to me it looks like he can confirm his role, but that doesn't confirm his alignment | ||
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you say it because you're feigning disappointment. I think you're one of the more scummy players in this game. | ||
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On July 28 2011 06:32 syllogism wrote: Chaos13 and Foolishness definitely look like the best lynches as of now. Your play this game has been very interesting, why should we lynch Foolishness? | ||
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Sandroba isn't either. | ||
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On July 28 2011 09:12 syllogism wrote: Palmar aren't this stupid, so I can only conclude that you are, indeed, not town-aligned Palmar. Did you actually read the thread last night when we were pushing for people to switch from BC to Jackal? yes, I read it very well, and I read it again, and again. Wasn't it nice, going from telling us BC was not town-aligned (I love how you always remember to not say 3rd party or scum, just simple not-town) to telling us we're idiots for lynching him? | ||
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Syllogism So, I've been convinced Sandroba was scum since his ridiculous policy post (a policy he later broke, if I recall correctly he wanted to lynch me for pushing a jackal lynch). But the thing is, Sandroba can't be scum, he was the one pushing supersoft to do the right thing, he's basically with me on all my scumreads, except this one.. But how about his twin? This post aims to show you why syllogism is almost certainly scum. There are two main points in this thing: a) Buddying up with Sandroba, someone who is very likely pro-town if I'm right. b) Conflicting actions regarding Jackal c) Conflicting actions regarding BloodyC0bbler Syllogism starts off his game with some random comments on how to consider the roles. None of it is very interesting, this picks up when I try to push for a Jackal lynch, after ON's flip. On July 25 2011 18:29 syllogism wrote: Pretty sure you people pushing jackal aren't this gullible/blind, but rather not town aligned Care to explain why mafia jackal would reveal his role immediately, knowing ON's real aligned and what will likely happen when ON flips town yep, that's right only scum wants to kill jackal. oh, and this is important for later: On July 25 2011 19:30 syllogism wrote: You are completely ignoring the previous posts explaining why it is in fact less likely that he is mafia than the people who should know better pushing for his lynch. You are starting to look like a good lynch. Make a note of it, he's willing to lynch people pushing for jackal. this analysis on kitaman could've been made about like 5-6 people in the game, it just felt right because Sandroba said it, so best buddy up. On July 25 2011 21:07 syllogism wrote: I concur on kitaman, he hasn't expressed his opinion on the main topic of the day while asking questions which pretty much only serve to make EVERYONE involved look suspicious So, early game 1, syllo was pushing a kita lynch while defending Jackal. Syllo then dives into the conversation with BloodyC0bbler that was literally spam for 15 pages or something. On July 26 2011 05:21 syllogism wrote: I can only see two possibilities: BC has a really odd posting restriction or he isn't town aligned. Leaning on former as this would be incredibly bad scum play and there are no village idiots. Bloodycobbler is scum, all the way up until people start thinking he's actually scum. On July 27 2011 04:22 syllogism wrote: I don't like either wagon, but I think I'm more willing to vote for Jackal due to him completely disappearing. Him disappearing right when supersoft showed up with his check is a bit too convenient. I still don't think Jackal's play makes any sense whatsoever for mafia, but I've to go with him with these two being the alternatives. BC if you are mafia, your play today was awful so I can't really even commend you for "fooling me". ##vote Jackal58 That's when it suddenly becomes fine to vote for jackal, a lynch-worthy offense earlier in the day. Now Jackal didn't show up for the cop test, so yes he was a good lynch, and I think most of us switched as soon as BC agreed to the test, which is logical, until the test returns red, in which case we lynch BC, which is also logical. Except for people like syllo, who already know how he's going to flip and it's a great opportunity to tell people they're idiots. On July 27 2011 06:07 syllogism wrote: He was obviously not playing his scum play though and it should have been clear to anyone who knows him Yes, especially yourself. Seriously, let me summarize syllo's day 1 for you. 1. Try to lynch people who want to kill jackal 2. Parrot whatever sandroba says 3. Tell us BC is scum 4. When people believe it, go back to Jackal to show he's town 5. Call people idiots for thinking BC is scum. he suggests 5 dt targets during the night, sure he tells us to vigi jackal, but that's obvious at this point, isn't it? 3 of them at least are green (Mig, Me and redFF) I don't think syllogism is playing the town game, I think he's just playing a scum game where he parrots anything Sandroba says as long as it's beneficial to scum. Notice the only thing Syllo wasn't involved in was when sandroba got supersoft to shoot Tackster. That's right. Syllo has basically jumped every bandwagon that Sandroba has started, taking great care to only do it when it is good enough for his objectives. Appendix: vote timings + Show Spoiler + sandroba Brazil. July 25 2011 20:59. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Vote: kitaman27 syllogism Finland. July 25 2011 21:07. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Vote: kitaman27 ------------------------- syllogism Finland. July 27 2011 05:25. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Unvote ##vote BloodyC0bbler sandroba Brazil. July 27 2011 05:25. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Unvote ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler --------------------------- sandroba Brazil. July 27 2011 05:55. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Unvote ##Vote:Jackal58 syllogism Finland. July 27 2011 05:57. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##unvote ##vote Jackal58 --------------------------- sandroba Brazil. July 28 2011 06:52. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Vote: Foolishness syllogism Finland. July 28 2011 06:52. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##vote Foolishness Syllogism is scum to re-iterate ##Vote Syllogism | ||
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wanna do me to, just in case? | ||
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On July 28 2011 09:32 syllogism wrote: After the check came back red? Of course the first instinct was to believe it was accurate, but after thinking it over it didn't make sense for BC to volunteer for a check and play like that overall if he was red or he was hoping the check would not get used on him. he was red, not voting on a red report day 1 makes no sense. You agreed with me on that in RTM, but not now. | ||
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On July 28 2011 09:36 syllogism wrote: This isn't RTM; the setup likely has way more millers to balance out the arbitrary number of DTs/information roles. In RTM there were no red results by real DTs and I don't think I was even around when VE made his fake claim. I would have voted for Drazerk though as his play was scummy, unlike BCs. you did not know about the army of millers when you did that. | ||
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On July 28 2011 17:59 syllogism wrote: How incredibly stupid Sorry bro, you played scummy as fuck btw, chaos13 is probably scum for bandwagoning my case v syllo. | ||
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On July 28 2011 13:21 Lanaia wrote: In response to Kita... Just because I didn't explicitly state that I thought red was probably scum doesn't mean it was out of nowhere and that I hadn't thought it. I felt Drazerk was not a good kill. I'd submitted my kill by the time I'd ever mentioned Drazerk anyways. I don't believe you. How many night kills does mafia have? | ||
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On July 28 2011 20:07 sandroba wrote: @Palmar Btw, why did you track Mig the previous night instead of me. You stated several times I was the scummiest in the thread. I didn't track Mig | ||
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Only mig visited him, I was hoping to confirm some vigilantes/dts and also to see who jackal visited. But he just sat at home, I've poked deconduo for an explanation on how mafia kills work, or what the priority is. | ||
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On July 28 2011 20:31 sandroba wrote: How does syllo flipping have any bearing in MY aligment? It proves that you guys were just dumb, not malicious, when you wanted to lynch everyone who said we should lynch jackal day 1. He always followed, you always led. So, you'd have to have some serious balls as scum to do that, in addition you had one of the harry potter items which you probably would've given jackal if you were scum. That's why when jackal flipped I started looking at syllo instead of you. | ||
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On July 28 2011 20:42 sandroba wrote: We never tunneled you, we both tunneled kita btw. On July 25 2011 21:11 sandroba wrote: Palmar is next in line btw, based on my new policy. =) On July 25 2011 19:30 syllogism wrote: You are completely ignoring the previous posts explaining why it is in fact less likely that he is mafia than the people who should know better pushing for his lynch. You are starting to look like a good lynch. I think it's pretty damn scummy to defend scum. | ||
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Is the saddest attempt at contribution I've seen in the thread. I already pointed out every little inconsistency in syllo's play, and some scummy fucker decides to bandwagon it with a pretentious analysis to back it up. | ||
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On July 28 2011 20:55 sandroba wrote: Why don't we lynch foolishness and you track/watch chaos next night. Lynching foolishness sounds ok I'm going to track someone who has yet to receive any heat, I don't need a confirmation to be willing to lynch Chaos13. | ||
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On July 28 2011 21:01 sandroba wrote: Well, I need confirmation from you. I want you to track chaos. yeah you see, I don't care _that_ much if you want to lynch me or not. I'll be tracking people I think are worth tracking. Chaos13 can get lynched or shot. Like I'd be perfectly fine with a day vig just taking him out right now. | ||
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On July 28 2011 21:12 chaos13 wrote: If you think I'm mafia make a goddamn case you derp. I haven't seen a single bit of explanation. This is ridiculous You were perfectly fine with bandwagoning my case on syllogism. | ||
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On July 28 2011 21:15 chaos13 wrote: I already said I didn't realize you had made a case on syllo. You'll notice that I actually provided reason for my vote, which is a hell of a lot more than most people so far have done. You have nowhere near enough reason to justify calling for a day vig. So you're not reading the thread either, lol How the fuck did you think the whole supersoft/syllogism deal started? | ||
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On July 28 2011 21:23 chaos13 wrote: Yeah except if he's scum he is going to lie and say I visited someone. Probably someone who ends up dead. Then you guys will lynch me and waste another day while scum get a free night -_- Good point. How about we just lynch you and find out. | ||
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in short: Lynch Chaos13. | ||
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On July 28 2011 23:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: And we know what happened. What more do you want to know. I picked Day Vig in case Jackal made it to Day 2. could you not day vig him yesterday? | ||
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But you shot him anyway. | ||
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On July 29 2011 11:50 chaos13 wrote: Hmm. Well I have to say that Foolish is not being helpful. He hasn't contributed anything of substance all game really, except lately with his case for Nisani. I don't like the way nisani looks either, but it matches his meta more than foolishness'. My vote will go for Foolish over nisani. But Palmar, don't think I've forgotten about you. ##Vote: Foolishness Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go to bed. I am exhausted This vote makes me not like the Foolishness wagon as much. Unless of course it's a bus, but damn it, Chaos13 is the most scummy player in town. | ||
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The creator of the role thief role would by now know who stole the role, and thus we could know both who has the role and what role it is, if foolishness was town, he'd have given us this information. I see no way around it, he's scum ##Unvote ##Vote Foolishness | ||
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There is another really good point in lynching Foolishness, we get rid of a really dangerous role in the form of the role thief. | ||
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On July 30 2011 01:32 kitaman27 wrote: ... So you're saying Foolishness became the new role thief? Curu didn't mention that. So are you in contact with either Foolishness or Curu or did you create the role? Neither, just assumed it, would be a pretty dick-ish role if he just stole it and the guy becomes vanilla. | ||
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On July 30 2011 01:32 Amber[LighT] wrote: Foolishness is a better lynch than Nisani. Nisani needs to be vigi'd if anything. There is no information revealed upon his flip since everybody has been on his shit anyway. He should be vigi'd anyway, because he's either scum, or a really easy target for scum to try and get lynched. The other option is to waste a DT check finding out which side he's on, I suggest that if he's not dead by a day-vig, we just check him. | ||
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On July 29 2011 21:11 chaos13 wrote: I also still feel that we haven't pulled ourselves together enough. I'm still seeing a lot of random accusations that don't really have much force behind them. Yes, I'm aware that's what my post on Foolishness is like, but there have been enough people explaining why he is scummy that it would not do any good for me to repeat them again. So here is how all accusations must be made in the future, in order to make things clear and understandable. Player Name Verdict: Explanation and evidence. Quotes must be used here. Player Name is mafia/town. ##Vote: Player Name This will allow everyone to clearly see and understand what you are saying. This will provide us with stronger analysis and stronger reference after players flip. Of course this will only apply to the original accusation. If you're supporting someone else's, say so, but there is no need to go through this again. This post reeks of scum btw. | ||
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On July 30 2011 02:49 bumatlarge wrote: BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA this coming from kurumi. I'm doing what I can tell help us win. And that involves not claiming, so sue me. I don't know if you're aware of this but Kurumi has just been proclaimed BOSS MASTER TROLL in BC's AA game, that's how pro he is. | ||
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Your role becomes so much stronger later in the game when most people have claimed their roles, and you can catch them lying. | ||
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does this also confirm his alignment? Because as I see it, he just killed an extra townie. | ||
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Apparently I was correct, we're enough ahead so it doesn't really matter if you want to shoot me, however if you believe I'm town I'd like some medic love, because I'm basically an outed DT. | ||
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I also know Dropbear visited Chaos13 | ||
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On July 31 2011 05:58 kitaman27 wrote: Remind me why an overpowered tracker/watcher role claims day one with no scum results? Because people wanted me to claim as they found me suspicious. | ||
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On July 31 2011 05:59 sandroba wrote: Sup Palmar, gimme some results bro. you're late. | ||
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On July 31 2011 06:01 sandroba wrote: I can confirm this, chaos did use some sort of action on me. The question is which? Actually, I thought I was supposed to get to know that I'm going to poke deconduo | ||
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Chaos13 tried to kill Sandroba. | ||
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initially decon just said chaos13 visited sandroba, but I sent him a pm, and he said I also saw chaos tried to kill sandroba | ||
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On July 31 2011 07:27 Varpulis wrote: @Palmar: did anybody other than Dropbear visit Chaos13? nope, or well me obviously | ||
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On July 31 2011 07:27 sandroba wrote: You are Sauron's Ring When someone targets you with a night action, they become a member of your cult, and join a PM circle with you and all other cult members. Once your cult has reached the maximum of 4 members, including yourself, you can choose to roleblock everyone in the cult in exchange for 1 KP. Can someone confirm that. Cause like... I remember back on day 2 it was pretty damn clear that it was the cult that killed supersoft. | ||
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On July 31 2011 08:20 sandroba wrote: @Lanaia Alright. If you have some sort of check use it on kita/palmar. Since you have no night actions as you claim either palmar is scum or you are SK. If you are town I would sugest you check palmar. Where did this logic come from? | ||
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Like, I'll get deconduo to confirm that he fucked up initially if you guys need it. Chaos13 is the best kill today. | ||
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On July 31 2011 07:27 sandroba wrote: You are Sauron's Ring When someone targets you with a night action, they become a member of your cult, and join a PM circle with you and all other cult members. Once your cult has reached the maximum of 4 members, including yourself, you can choose to roleblock everyone in the cult in exchange for 1 KP. Btw, this role-message looks so edited. Do you gain a KP for roleblocking your cult? If you need to pay a KP to do it, where does that KP come from? | ||
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I think we should lynch Sandroba and then vigi shoot chaos13. Sandroba's role doesn't add up, and he is some kind of a cultist with a recruiting role. It's also very, very likely sandroba is responsible for killing supersoft on day 2, the whole sacrifice thing usually goes hand in hand with cult-ish types, just check GMarshal's role in PTP2 The only reason Sandroba would hide a KP from us (as he basically must be doing, looking at that role description) is because he intends to use it in a way not acceptable to town. So, in conclusion: ##Unvote ##Vote Sandroba | ||
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I'm totally actively lurking. I already gave you results of both my night 1 check and night 2 check, chaos13 is obviously lying because I know he attempted to kill sandroba. | ||
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On August 02 2011 07:08 sandroba wrote: The only problem is that I can't really know for sure if Amber joined or not my circle. Kita, you don't need to prove your role since cultist is dead, so don't silence me. I asked decon in pms and he only told me "You get informed when alive players join your cult." So kita is not confirmed scum, because maybe amber did target me and maybe it does count as a "join". Also his willingness to get checked day1 does give him town points, despite his somewhat scummy behaviour. Palmar, however, is straight out the scummiest player alive and should be shot dead. derp. | ||
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On August 02 2011 07:56 sandroba wrote: If palmar pops town I'm clearly blind, cus I can't see him being town this game. Why wouldn't he be shot with such an imba op role that was suposed to track chaos, who flipped town, and most likely had no medic protection from being scummy as fuck. Instead they shot me, who had an okayish role which scum knew about. The only reason he is not dead is because he's scum. Scum loves players who fuck up and can they can get lynched and hide behind. like, if I hadn't gotten the chaos13 result, I would've been the one hanging, and scum would've loved to bandwagon that with very little discussion. I'd love to not get shot. heist is another player I think needs to be looked at, perhaps curu. Just from a balance point of view we already have 3 vet/semi-vet mafia down, so it's likely the remaining scum would be newer players. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:12 Curu wrote: Like I don't understand, are you being intentionally unhelpful -_- I can't explain. Yes, my first roleclaim was not the whole story. I can guarantee 100% town victory, but you guys are never going to actually buy that. | ||
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I can win this game for town, but people need to listen to me, and I will need to do a bunch of shit I am disallowed to explain to succeed. Because people suspect me already there is no reason for me to do anything but come forward with this "believe me or kill me" plan. So here's the deal, you either believe me, or you kill me. 1) the mafia actually cannot kill me, I can't explain why. 2) we have to lynch and shoot everyone who does not have a visiting role. I can't explain why. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:20 sandroba wrote: why don't you try us before getting shot? As I said, I can't explain in detail. if you guys all act as mindless slaves, town will win. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:27 Curu wrote: The only person without night visiting roles are sandroba, heist, Varpulis, and Lanaia IIRC. sandroba and heist are pretty much confirmed not Mafia. Sheeping you and killing them both is a terrible idea. yep. It wins the game, but it sounds unreasonable. | ||
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You can make a deal with the devil, it will win you the game, but it costs blood, and perhaps your soul. So, my offer is on the table. I would like to ask to be shot by town if you decide to not take me up on the offer, because lynching me is completely useless for town. | ||
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That doesn't change the fact that I can help you win. I only want you to shoot me if town is deadset on lynching me, because my entire plan revolves around me staying alive. So preferably you shoot someone that doesn't have a visiting role, if you're willing to go through with it. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:38 Curu wrote: Or how about we don't accept your plan, you stop being so cryptic, and we play the game out normally with you being helpful ole scumhunter Palmar? I don't have a visiting power either at the moment. I can't scumhunt, I'm disallowed from being less cryptic. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:39 sandroba wrote: No, this plan wins mafia the game. Also base on your role you should be able to identify mafia regardless and asking to lynch shoot anyone that doesn't have a visiting role is not only unreasonable, it's totally ludricrous, especially when most our confirmed townies lie in there. Tell me exactly how lynching/shooting me would win town the game, especially when you confirmed me as town yourself. Nope, I can guarantee you that this plan will win town the game. Take a good hard look at the second post in this thread. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:43 sandroba wrote: Sorry palmar, Idc for your winconditions if you are not town =/ Alright, I expected nothing more. As you can probably tell, I have already put myself in a position where people want to lynch or shoot me. Coming out with this mutual deal is how I best deem to proceed for both me and town, as our win condition is the same. This is indeed a last ditch effort from me. Town has a pretty damn good chance of winning without me, I just bump the chances up to 100%. | ||
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No problem bro. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:46 sandroba wrote: How is that remotely possible of being true when you "acused" chaos13 day2, basically proving that you can scumhunt? Well I can scumhunt, but I'd have to fake it, as I already know the roles and identities of all mafia in the game. | ||
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that is, if bum doesn't shoot me. I think I can be a little less cryptic in private. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:52 bumatlarge wrote: He's probably SK, or ninja at this rate, if what he says is true. But then my bullet will nail him only if he isn't SK, and in that case he's assured and we can lynch him. This is probably good for mafia to hear, as it prolongs their defeat, but now it is possible that they only have 1 member left. you can shoot me btw, I will die like a pig. I can also get lynched. Only thing that doesn't work is mafia killing me, they can't do that... nuh-uh | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:54 sandroba wrote: Supposedly, unless chaos13 penalty number 2 activated and I get roleblocked next night, which is quite likely, since I claimed drazerks role. alright, I'm tracking you, you scummy fucker. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:57 sandroba wrote: The fact is, even if you are not lying, which I find unlikely, town can win without you. true dat bro. it's not a guaranteed win, but it's a likely win. | ||
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with me, it's a guaranteed win. | ||
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I really hope Bumatlarge is willing to... live a little... take some risk! Leave me alive, and we can win this! | ||
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On August 02 2011 09:08 Kurumi wrote: Hey lets make a deal Bum shoots me and Palmars role is revealed I'm afraid that wouldn't work. Unless you can also reveal alignments. | ||
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Let me live, I'll reward you handily. | ||
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On August 02 2011 09:15 kitaman27 wrote: Palmar, what is your exact win condition? If you don't post it, we're not going along with anything. Also, how in the world would you already know the identities of all the mafia and why wouldn't you provide them to town if you wanted to work with us. I am disallowed to explain my win condition. It's mutual with town, I can tell you that. I am disallowed to reveal any of the mafia. I was hoping that pushing jackal, and tracking chaos13 would be enough to buy town credit (notice, I only track mafia). This is because any information I gain through my role I can use, just not whatever extra information I have. | ||
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On August 02 2011 09:24 sandroba wrote: So you could theoretically track kita or lanaia and give us info. I can track either and tell you their night actions. I can't tell you if they're mafia or not. | ||
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Not that you guys won't need any scumhunting if you go through with me. | ||
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Consider it: Town wins Pálmar gets your souls. | ||
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On August 02 2011 09:29 sandroba wrote: K what about this. We have palmar track kita, bum shoots lanaia/Dropbear rb's lanaia so she can't be the shooter and we lynch palmar the next day regardless of his results. If he doesn't flip mafia we shoot kita if his track was incriminating. Would you agree to that palmar? Is not like you have a chance to win this either way so help a bro =) I do have a chance. So no, I'm not cool with lynching me, as then I die. That's when I don't have a chance. I just need to stay alive... and kill a few people who do not have visiting roles. But tracking kita is perfectly fine with me. | ||
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On August 02 2011 09:37 kitaman27 wrote: I see no reason to let him live longer. It's not like his info is worth anything now that he is confirmed anti-town. I'm pro-town bro I win with town I just need... souls too. But town wins, my ultimate goal is to kill the mafia. | ||
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On August 02 2011 09:40 kitaman27 wrote: Oh rly, I thought you just said you weren't allowed to reveal your win condition a moment ago? So your ultimate goal is to kill the mafia team, which you already know the identities of, but aren't allowed to reveal. But you can kinda attack them. But not really. That's the other part. If all I had to do was kill the mafia I'd just track them and tell you who to kill. I also have to get a bunch of town killed. That's why I figured I'd only try this gambit in the hole that I'm in, it's very hard to convince town to gladly die in exchange for my word that they'll win. It's true... but it's hard to believe. | ||
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I tracked sandroba bumatlarge visited sandroba ##vote bumatlarge | ||
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or he wouldn't have killed pro-town-droba | ||
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On August 03 2011 06:50 bumatlarge wrote: Ok, then where is the mafia kill? You are making this shit up, at least stick to your story. It doesn't even matter what happened last night, palmar said he wasn't town, and I haven't, this isn't up for debate. ... I'm pro town bro you kill Sandroba SHAME ON YOU SON, SHAME | ||
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On August 03 2011 06:52 bumatlarge wrote: I'm assuming it doesn't apply since I was roleblocked. At least you know I wasn't able to shoot or I wouldn't be able to talk, and suffer a modkill or something. I know what happened, but I think you guys are smart enough to figure it out. Die scum, die | ||
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sandroba the pro-town hero who was lynching Fools and Jackasses like a boss since day one was sound asleep. Then evil Bumatlarge attacked him! But faithful Lanaia said she'd stop the kill, but she really just held the door open for evil Bumatlarge. Now evil Kitaman27 sits in his throne of darkness while good and faithful Palmar fights for his life. he is laughing and laughing and laughing, everything is so sad now. Maybe good DropBear who roleblocked evil Kitaman27 can save town, or maybe the hero, the saviour, the rockstar, the womanizer, the terminator, the god of war, the messiah, the handsome and the intelligent Kurumi can save us! I don't know... WHAT SHALL WE DO?????? | ||
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SHE'S A LIAR! | ||
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Cause I win with town you silly people. I'm like the tea-party, I win with the rich. | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:12 kitaman27 wrote: Since you said you can't identify the scum team, which you apparently know, does that mean we're confirmed town? :p Maybe I was lying about knowing scum team? who knows?????? | ||
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Lynch evil Bumatlarge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:21 Lanaia wrote: Does anyone else want bum dead? Everyone who is faithful to town wants him dead, can't you see through your evil eyes that he is the scum you're looking for. He's a Serialkillermafiabadguylordvader you're looking for. | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:23 Curu wrote: No, not bum, HOLD THE HORSES Dude, I drive a car. | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:24 Curu wrote: Keep the lynch on Palmar. There's no way bum would have given himself away so easily like that. I believe he was roleblocked. No, I like living, I give life! Bumatlarge takes life. He sodomized sandroba last night, nothing is sacreeeeeddddddd I'll draw a picture: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U082d.png) | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:45 Kurumi wrote: ah fuck that I don't care anymore do whatever You want ants No, you must care you are the only true wisdom in town. We must kill evil, the picture is evidence, I can guarantee town win. | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:54 Lanaia wrote: Curu, I promise you, unless something goes wrong, Palmar will be dead by morning. NO, YOU EVIL EVILDOER | ||
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On August 03 2011 07:58 Curu wrote: What I thought you were killing Palmar Lanaia. ..... Fine bum dies either way now, lynch Palmar pretty please? NO The hero lanaia brought us closer to victory! Now we must kill EVIL KITAMAN27!!!! | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:03 Curu wrote: Palmar's been infected by Kurumitis. STEM THE INFECTION NOW, QUARANTINE BY DEATH No, you evil. Kill kitaman27, I never lie, I am like an angel except I occasionally enjoy sexual intercourse. | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:04 Lanaia wrote: No, we're not getting rid of kita, at least, not yet. You've claimed being anti-town. It's in our best interests to be rid of you. YOU EVIL Murderer! I am not anti-town, I just claimed to be NOT TOWN. I am Pro-town-not-town, like a saviour from another dimension, you must not believe this! | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:08 deconduo wrote: I messed up slightly, sorting some things out now EVEN THE HOST IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH! we must not make this into a civil war. I am here, follow me, I know what to do, evil Kitaman27 shall not sit on his evil throne for long. | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:21 Curu wrote: Well it's you, Drop, or bum. Either way Palmar must die today. no fiend fiend fiend WOULD YOU KILL LOVE? I only bring love. | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:27 Curu wrote: Well it's a love-hate relationship. You bring me love. I BRING YOU HATE. But we can win Curu, We can win together! Why do you not see me for what I am, a truthingly truthful truthteller! | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:43 bumatlarge wrote: This is very interesting. I'd be pretty cool if someone protected me, but its unnecessary and actually not helpful if the majority would just lynch me the day after. Whatever palmar flips doesn't help me, but if I die quickly it confirms that there is a mafia aligned roleblocker. I don't think it's drazerk or dropbear as far as i can tell. I think its lanaia or someone else. YOU EVIL I HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF YOU STANDING OVER SANDROBA'S BED WITH A SWORD. YOU MUST BE MURDEREDED | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:48 bumatlarge wrote: Oh ok then, I'll take it! Though I'd suggest the protection go to heist. Why? You fiend | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:51 bumatlarge wrote: Oh ok, drazerk I see now. I know kung fu! Kitaman is just a minion Lynch Drazerk!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | ||
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On August 03 2011 08:58 heist wrote: What the hell is going? As I am now master of the rainbow, I bid thee Drazerk to tell us of your new powers because that doesn't seem altered at all. Oh you great master of the rainbow, share with us your wisdom. Have you found the sun yet, or does the sun remain hidden. Once the sun is found I will be able to cast another spell? But who is the sun? | ||
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On August 03 2011 09:08 heist wrote: You are the sun, Palmar. The magnificent orb of light that sees all, knows all. Casting rainbows with his light. But then my powers are whole, that must mean I am no longer bound by this weakness, let my power fill your hearts dear people! ##Sunshine | ||
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On August 03 2011 09:27 bumatlarge wrote: Great, is this gonna kill heist palmar? You are the taker of life I am the giver of life | ||
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I've brought peace and knowledge to this town, and still you want to kill me! I will bring victory to this town, if you work with me! | ||
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On August 03 2011 23:14 Curu wrote: That he's a Vig? And that he shot Mig N1 and roleblocked Lanaia N2? I don't see anything as nonsensical as 3rd Party with the scum list but is immune to Mafia KP and can't scumhunt. Not shooting Palmar just ensured bum that he's the next to die if Palmar is indeed a mislynch. He isn't epicly stupid scum, but I don't need to convince you anymore anyways, it seems like every other person here can see what I see. Do you not feel the warmth of the sunshine I have brought to you? Do you not understand I am your friend? I think that if you go through with this, our relationship will be beyond repair, we shall be mortal enemies. | ||
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On August 04 2011 03:45 Lanaia wrote: Okay, so... I was confused about my role then? I figured the following night meant the night right after day I'd actioned. Okay... god I'm stupid. I don't know what more I can contribute at this point. The wording in Palmar's posts lately kinda... weirds me out. I find your posts much weirder, because they do not have truth in them! I am disappointed you did not want to follow me, now you must fight a long battle because not everything is as it seems. With me, we could have been heroes. Without me, you're nothing but ordinary citizens. I brought you sun, I brought you truth, I brought you justice and I brought you kindness, and you hang me for it! But alas, every great prophet must suffer, because without suffering their acts of kindness do not contrast with the cruelty of the common people. I leave you now, I forgive you! Except you Curu, you're my nemesis. | ||
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On August 04 2011 06:10 Curu wrote: Odd though, how come you let chaos steal your thunder this game to kill the DT? You only like killing DTs as Town? Your understanding of me is weak. I am on the same side as you, but you will not have it because you don't share my vision. I don't take live, I give live! ##Resurrect youngminii | ||
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I win with town, I even said so in that post that was going to be my goodbye post! I'm a friend and you're the enemy, your attempt at selflessness is a mask for your evil intentions of getting me killed. There is not an honest bone in your body. Evil!!!! | ||
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Look town, the people who want to kill me are evil! Bumatlarge, the murderer of sandroba, evil, evil man Kitaman, the mastermind on his throne of darkness Curu, my nemesis lanaia, the evil bystanding serial killer and murderer of good redFF Varpulis and Drazerk, you are honest, you are kind, but you are being misguided by this evil that is among us, you must change your mind, save me, and I'll save you! We must kill Bumatalarge tonight, for he is death incarnate, and he can kill many people! He is a black rainbow with a black heart and he dresses up kinda funny. The good town must see this!!! I don't know what more I can do. I bring you honesty, I help you find the evil murdering cultist chaos13! Now is the time to act, good people of this land must change their mind! | ||
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On August 04 2011 18:26 Varpulis wrote: Palmar, if your gameplan now is to try to look so scummy that you can't possibly be scum, a la Kurumi, I'm afraid it will slightly less effective than you likely hoped. Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it. You know, I just... do things. The mafia has plans, the town has plans, Lanaia's got plans. You know, they're schemers. Schemers trying to control their little worlds. I'm not a schemer. I try to show the schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are. | ||
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On August 05 2011 04:23 Kurumi wrote: happened before look up harry potter mafia with annul as host he is motha fuckin snape This is the most accurate post in the entire thread. | ||
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long story short, we lynch bumatlarge and we win the game, just need to lynch some other enemies too. or, you can try to figure it out without me, but seeing how town works at the moment... good luck with that, lol. | ||
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On August 05 2011 04:29 Curu wrote: You know what Palmar, if you manage to pull this off I'll kill the rest of Town as soon as I get my KP and hand your Mafia the win. Seeing as I don't win with mafia, that's gonna be a bit hard, isn't it? You're going to be like... "whatever" when I flip, because sure, I'm not exactly town aligned, but you're also gonna facepalm pretty hard when you realize that I've been telling the truth all along, I win with town and I can guarantee that win. | ||
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On August 05 2011 04:33 Curu wrote: sandroba was eager to kill Palmar off too. Anyone with half a brain should be eager to kill Palmar off. If he's really 3rd Party that can't be killed by Mafia but can be killed by Town then I'll come eat all the crow I deserve. Thing is, town actually has a chance of winning the game even if I die, it's just me that loses the chance to win. They just need to shut people like you up and listen to people that are actually thinking. (Kurumi... of all people). | ||
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On August 05 2011 04:33 Curu wrote: If he's really 3rd Party that can't be killed by Mafia but can be killed by Town then I'll come eat all the crow I deserve. I'm quoting this for the future, so I can throw it in your face. Think about for a second. day 1, tried to get jackal killed - got called scum for it day 2, tracked jackal, confirmed mig's hit, voted foolishness. day 3, tracked chaos13, got him killed day 4, tracked sandroba, confirmed bumatlarge visited him | ||
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Curu, you are now my nemesis. | ||
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Someone did harry potter with the hallows, and pretty op version of using them and a cd, and I submitted harry potter in the exact way it was implemented in the game (the mason mechanic, and the hallows randomly hidden with other townies). deconduo copied my version of the role and renamed it voldemort, but kept only one stack of items. What was retarded though, was giving all the items to townies. | ||
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