EPTPick Their Power Mafia 2 - Page 32
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
-Jackal was leading the lynch, followed by kita. People were asking for a check on either him or kita. They knew YM was going to do it. For them to have enough reason to kill YM, despite the risk, Jackal is not scum, because it's safe to assume he was getting lynched anyway. However if any of these 2 players got checked, then kita was probably doomed, so they had to take a risk to save one of their players and hope things worked out. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
reading the thread now. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 26 2011 02:25 sandroba wrote: Okay here is explanation number 2. I refuse to believe that mafia does things at random so here's what I got, and this one doesn't relly on SS being mafia: -Jackal was leading the lynch, followed by kita. People were asking for a check on either him or kita. They knew YM was going to do it. For them to have enough reason to kill YM, despite the risk, Jackal is not scum, because it's safe to assume he was getting lynched anyway. However if any of these 2 players got checked, then kita was probably doomed, so they had to take a risk to save one of their players and hope things worked out. What about the issue of trackster using his ability. He knows there is someone out there that can instantly cap him. HE was red. He also knew saving either kita / jackal via shot (if either or both is red) only assures he can be revenge killed. It seems far more likely that they opted to shoot YM because he had a really strong role. He was heavily reading town based on the action, but still enough doubt that a day vig on him wouldn't be terrible. It honestly looks to me like a blue snipe with a hope no one would find it too out of place. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
YM killed someone, Tracker killed YM using my ability or whatever after that I used my ability and killed Tracker. now that difference: I didn't lie about that, why should I... In fact Dropbears version would be much better for me. I'd be confirmed 100%. Now I am not. On the other hand, if you look at the facts, you will see that I am probably not scummy. If I were scum, this whole thing what happened with Tracker etc. could have been easily avoided, if i just hadn't claimed that I didn't shot YM. Anyway. I am willing to Check anyone we choose together. If I understood my role correctly, I only can see whether anyone is town or scum, so there is no danger for our blues etc., so noone will be able to refuse my 3/3 quote check procedure. G_G | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4351 Posts
It's bedtime for me, nighty night. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 26 2011 02:50 Kurumi wrote: Check BC because we are fucked if he is mafia. Check me and laugh. Whoever dt checks will laugh almost as hard as i cringed at my role. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 26 2011 02:38 sandroba wrote: K, BC, so you what's your opinion on kita? honestly? I have no clue. Based on my own role I already know players have posting restrictions. He could be forced to ask questions for all I know. This game day has been a clusterfuck of claims, lying, and the like. Until shit settles down into something that can be analyzed i'm not ruling out posting restrictions. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On July 26 2011 00:39 DropBear wrote: Ok I may as well cop the penalty. Mafia now knows who shot youngminii and all his abilities so I have to come out and save him now. I made the Tim Roth role. Supersoft is Tim Roth. He only gets one kill. His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him. I didn't get that PM so supersoft is now 100% confirmed to be town. His other ability is an alignment check, which activates if you get into a 3 each quote convo with him i.e. you post, he quotes, you quote the quote until there is 3 each. I would suggest forcing people to quote him. Not everyone at once though as it would shit up the thread something shocking. What was your penalty? Good job Supersoft, I didn't get a pm telling me tackster's alignment, was that a mistake? I'm still weary of Jackal. Behaviourally i'm not noticing anything that scummy though. I'm tired of Kurumi getting away from doing jack-shit every game and doing no analysis and just trolling so i'm voting him until something better comes up. kita-iirc he played this way early on in the first ptp and was town and a lot of people(mainly mafia) jumped on him for it to get an easy lynch, I suggest someone starts quoting supersoft though. i will do it if necesssary. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On July 26 2011 00:39 DropBear wrote: Ok I may as well cop the penalty. Mafia now knows who shot youngminii and all his abilities so I have to come out and save him now. I made the Tim Roth role. Supersoft is Tim Roth. He only gets one kill. His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him. I didn't get that PM so supersoft is now 100% confirmed to be town. His other ability is an alignment check, which activates if you get into a 3 each quote convo with him i.e. you post, he quotes, you quote the quote until there is 3 each. I would suggest forcing people to quote him. Not everyone at once though as it would shit up the thread something shocking. I don't understand your thinking here. Why, at the time of the post, did you presume mafia shot YM and then go on to say you've to come out and save "him"? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 26 2011 03:56 redFF wrote: What was your penalty? Good job Supersoft, I didn't get a pm telling me tackster's alignment, was that a mistake? I'm still weary of Jackal. Behaviourally i'm not noticing anything that scummy though. I'm tired of Kurumi getting away from doing jack-shit every game and doing no analysis and just trolling so i'm voting him until something better comes up. kita-iirc he played this way early on in the first ptp and was town and a lot of people(mainly mafia) jumped on him for it to get an easy lynch, I suggest someone starts quoting supersoft though. i will do it if necesssary. I suggest no one quotes supersoft and no one votes for kurumi. Based on how Kurumi is playing, his power seems to require votes instead of fistbumps like palmar from last ptp. Supersoft's power we are told operates via quote levels. how about we don't give two people access to their powers? How about we kill jackal or, each player with an item asks if they can destroy it (as well harry breaks the wand, gets rid of the stone and only keeps the cloak in the books). Letting people run loose with powers when we have no actual confirmed alignment of them is just a bad move. Limit people from acting until they are verified. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I suggest no one quotes supersoft and no one votes for kurumi. Based on how Kurumi is playing, his power seems to require votes instead of fistbumps like palmar from last ptp. Supersoft's power we are told operates via quote levels. how about we don't give two people access to their powers? How about we kill jackal or, each player with an item asks if they can destroy it (as well harry breaks the wand, gets rid of the stone and only keeps the cloak in the books). Letting people run loose with powers when we have no actual confirmed alignment of them is just a bad move. Limit people from acting until they are verified. Supersoft just killed mafia and another person confirmed his role. Unless you think this is some absurd gambit by mafia and they are all 3 (supersoft,dropbear,tackster) red, how can you possibly argue against supersoft using his alignment checks? Is this some posting restriction because that makes little sense | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:04 syllogism wrote: Supersoft just killed mafia and another person confirmed his role. Unless you think this is some absurd gambit by mafia and they are all 3 (supersoft,dropbear,tackster) red, how can you possibly argue against supersoft using his alignment checks? Is this some posting restriction because that makes little sense Super soft is likely not red as he killed a red, you are correct. That does not exclude him from being third party however. Also note, drop bear claimed the role of what tim roth was before super soft came forward. IT forced him forward as he was forced out in the open. Based on how the role was used we can extrapolate that dropbear and supersoft are most likely not of the same alignment (unless town, but then dropbears ability must have been total shit to warrant activating his penalty). As supersoft was forced to use his role he might be red, but more than likely he is third party or town. We gained no information on drop bear other than he was willing to risk a penalty for outing SS. This doesn't give any information upon his role. Until such a time as any of them have confirmed their innocence I would prefer to keep as many people as possible from using their abilities. Do we seriously need another day vig or the like going rampant without input from anyone? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Super soft is likely not red as he killed a red, you are correct. That does not exclude him from being third party however. Also note, drop bear claimed the role of what tim roth was before super soft came forward. IT forced him forward as he was forced out in the open. Based on how the role was used we can extrapolate that dropbear and supersoft are most likely not of the same alignment (unless town, but then dropbears ability must have been total shit to warrant activating his penalty). As supersoft was forced to use his role he might be red, but more than likely he is third party or town. We gained no information on drop bear other than he was willing to risk a penalty for outing SS. This doesn't give any information upon his role. Until such a time as any of them have confirmed their innocence I would prefer to keep as many people as possible from using their abilities. Do we seriously need another day vig or the like going rampant without input from anyone? According to the alleged role description, Supersoft's role and identity would have been sent to the whole mafia team if he had been behind the initial YM hit. "Forcing him to come forward" makes perfect sense as town gains more information, supersoft becomes a semiconfirmed townie (read the role) and Dropbear willing to the take penalty makes him look very townish. It turns out he wasn't behind the hit, but that's only because there was another bizarre role in the game. There's a small chance that supersoft is a third party, but even then his role is what he claims as Dropbear confirmed it. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On July 26 2011 04:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I suggest no one quotes supersoft and no one votes for kurumi. Based on how Kurumi is playing, his power seems to require votes instead of fistbumps like palmar from last ptp. Supersoft's power we are told operates via quote levels. how about we don't give two people access to their powers? How about we kill jackal or, each player with an item asks if they can destroy it (as well harry breaks the wand, gets rid of the stone and only keeps the cloak in the books). Letting people run loose with powers when we have no actual confirmed alignment of them is just a bad move. Limit people from acting until they are verified. This does not make any sense. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
Jackal claims HP, ON claims voldy, ON dies, people say that Jackal is lying. YM kills ON, gets killed by tackster, supersoft kills tackster. Kitaman is lurking, Kurumi is trolling/soliciting votes. I'm uneasy about lynching Jackal based purely on role speculation. I'd rather keep an eye on him and keep him the hell away from the hallows. I'd be fine with lynching kitaman27 at the moment. Nobody vote for Kurumi, k? | ||
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