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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
July 25 2011 16:46 GMT
#601
On July 26 2011 01:44 chaos13 wrote:
lmao. So that obviously means that Tack killed YM. But why? That just doesn't make Sense to me. If they wanted him dead it probably would have been easy for the MaFia to Push for a lynch on him.

Because not only is it free KP, but it pushed suspicion over to supersoft. However it clearly backfired on him.
Enjoy your day.
Tackster
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland429 Posts
July 25 2011 16:47 GMT
#602
On July 26 2011 01:45 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:44 chaos13 wrote:
lmao. So that obviously means that Tack killed YM. But why? That just doesn't make sense to me. If they wanted him dead it probably would have been easy for the mafia to push for a lynch on him.

He had to use his ability today as his role changes daily


Tackster: Can you give me a synonym of flammable? Deconduo: Inflammable...
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 25 2011 16:47 GMT
#603
On July 26 2011 01:44 Tackster wrote:
GG All.... That went royally wrong! Whoever created my role - well played sah!

/Goodbye

If my role was at least 1% cool as Yours ...
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 16:49 GMT
#604
Man, either trackester really didn't think things through or super is also mafia. The result of him using his day kill should be obvious, and supersoft not inta-killing him after he got framed really makes me wonder. However he's a DT so let's keep him around a bit longer.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 16:50 GMT
#605
*tackster
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 25 2011 16:51 GMT
#606
On July 26 2011 01:49 sandroba wrote:
Man, either trackester really didn't think things through or super is also mafia. The result of him using his day kill should be obvious, and supersoft not inta-killing him after he got framed really makes me wonder. However he's a DT so let's keep him around a bit longer.

They would have never sacrified Tackster like that and Dropbear would have had to lie about supersoft's role as well then
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 25 2011 16:53 GMT
#607
Yeah supersoft is pretty much confirmed town right now
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 16:57 GMT
#608
Not really. Assuming DB is town, which I think he is, they couldn't be certain that he would reveal who got the Tim role. supersoft was basically cornered into shooting whoever shot YM, to prove he wasn't lying. Maybe they indeed did not think things through, but a more plausible explanation is that they are both mafia. It's not certain, but it explains things better than "mafia is dumb". It's worth keeping him around for DT checks anyway. If he's not mafia he's going to get shot eventually or confirm half the town.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#609
On July 26 2011 01:57 sandroba wrote:
Not really. Assuming DB is town, which I think he is, they couldn't be certain that he would reveal who got the Tim role. supersoft was basically cornered into shooting whoever shot YM, to prove he wasn't lying. Maybe they indeed did not think things through, but a more plausible explanation is that they are both mafia. It's not certain, but it explains things better than "mafia is dumb". It's worth keeping him around for DT checks anyway. If he's not mafia he's going to get shot eventually or confirm half the town.



Hmm. But if he is mafia we can't trust his checks at all. I hadn't thought of things from that angle, so it's semi possible he could be scum. If he is, his DT power is useless because it would be so easy to lie about it. However, it depends on whether decon would post it publicly or PM supersoft. I'm guessing it would be PM'ed to soft, in which case he would have no trouble lying
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
July 25 2011 17:00 GMT
#610
On July 25 2011 20:57 sandroba wrote:
Foolishness is right. Let's lynch kita, he been useless and been subtly pushing suspicion into everyone with his question.
##Vote: Kitaman27


On July 25 2011 09:36 sandroba wrote:
if you are pushing hard a lynch for a lynch based on shoody evidence I'll tunnel you into oblivion.


*cough cough*

On July 25 2011 21:07 syllogism wrote:
I concur on kitaman, he hasn't expressed his opinion on the main topic of the day while asking questions which pretty much only serve to make EVERYONE involved look suspicious


On July 25 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Is it safe to assume that all roles were assigned separate from alignment? Or do we have another host created rivalry like last game with the batman and joker?


Two questions were about the set-up. I never passed them off as an attempt at a contribution. Sandroba gave away a kp an hour into the game to a guy named Voldermort. Nobody found that weird? (I'm not saying Sandroba is scum, I'm just questioning why he would ever do something so rash) Mig shot down a town controlled kp plan because of the possible presence of a roleblocker. I found that unlikely and stated so.

Like it or not, Jackal posted his pm's from hosts and as unfair as it is, its pretty likely that he is town. Saying that the scum have access to town win conditions is probably damage control, but that kind of speculation takes away from the spirit of the game I suppose .

Lunch time is over so I won't be able to post more until I get home, but to jump on me because I'm "useless" a few hours into the game is rather silly.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 25 2011 17:01 GMT
#611
On July 26 2011 01:59 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:57 sandroba wrote:
Not really. Assuming DB is town, which I think he is, they couldn't be certain that he would reveal who got the Tim role. supersoft was basically cornered into shooting whoever shot YM, to prove he wasn't lying. Maybe they indeed did not think things through, but a more plausible explanation is that they are both mafia. It's not certain, but it explains things better than "mafia is dumb". It's worth keeping him around for DT checks anyway. If he's not mafia he's going to get shot eventually or confirm half the town.



Hmm. But if he is mafia we can't trust his checks at all. I hadn't thought of things from that angle, so it's semi possible he could be scum. If he is, his DT power is useless because it would be so easy to lie about it. However, it depends on whether decon would post it publicly or PM supersoft. I'm guessing it would be PM'ed to soft, in which case he would have no trouble lying


The second he starts lying we axe him.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 25 2011 17:01 GMT
#612
On July 26 2011 01:57 sandroba wrote:
Not really. Assuming DB is town, which I think he is, they couldn't be certain that he would reveal who got the Tim role. supersoft was basically cornered into shooting whoever shot YM, to prove he wasn't lying. Maybe they indeed did not think things through, but a more plausible explanation is that they are both mafia. It's not certain, but it explains things better than "mafia is dumb". It's worth keeping him around for DT checks anyway. If he's not mafia he's going to get shot eventually or confirm half the town.

Perhaps Tackster didn't think the role name would be displayed like that and thus the real Tim Roth wouldn't realize to do that. Tackster's role is much better for mafia than Supersoft's; just letting supersoft die would be by far the better option. Tackster is also a veteran while supersoft is a newer player.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 25 2011 17:04 GMT
#613
On July 26 2011 02:01 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:59 chaos13 wrote:
On July 26 2011 01:57 sandroba wrote:
Not really. Assuming DB is town, which I think he is, they couldn't be certain that he would reveal who got the Tim role. supersoft was basically cornered into shooting whoever shot YM, to prove he wasn't lying. Maybe they indeed did not think things through, but a more plausible explanation is that they are both mafia. It's not certain, but it explains things better than "mafia is dumb". It's worth keeping him around for DT checks anyway. If he's not mafia he's going to get shot eventually or confirm half the town.



Hmm. But if he is mafia we can't trust his checks at all. I hadn't thought of things from that angle, so it's semi possible he could be scum. If he is, his DT power is useless because it would be so easy to lie about it. However, it depends on whether decon would post it publicly or PM supersoft. I'm guessing it would be PM'ed to soft, in which case he would have no trouble lying


The second he starts lying we axe him.


Problem is, how do we know if he's lying?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 17:04 GMT
#614
On July 26 2011 02:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:57 sandroba wrote:
Foolishness is right. Let's lynch kita, he been useless and been subtly pushing suspicion into everyone with his question.
##Vote: Kitaman27


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 09:36 sandroba wrote:
if you are pushing hard a lynch for a lynch based on shoody evidence I'll tunnel you into oblivion.


*cough cough*

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 21:07 syllogism wrote:
I concur on kitaman, he hasn't expressed his opinion on the main topic of the day while asking questions which pretty much only serve to make EVERYONE involved look suspicious


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Is it safe to assume that all roles were assigned separate from alignment? Or do we have another host created rivalry like last game with the batman and joker?


Two questions were about the set-up. I never passed them off as an attempt at a contribution. Sandroba gave away a kp an hour into the game to a guy named Voldermort. Nobody found that weird? (I'm not saying Sandroba is scum, I'm just questioning why he would ever do something so rash) Mig shot down a town controlled kp plan because of the possible presence of a roleblocker. I found that unlikely and stated so.

Like it or not, Jackal posted his pm's from hosts and as unfair as it is, its pretty likely that he is town. Saying that the scum have access to town win conditions is probably damage control, but that kind of speculation takes away from the spirit of the game I suppose .

Lunch time is over so I won't be able to post more until I get home, but to jump on me because I'm "useless" a few hours into the game is rather silly.


It's not only because you are useless, it's because you are subtly pushing suspicion on people, that acording to you, you don't even think are scum. See you did it again. That's scum behaviour 100%.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 17:07 GMT
#615
On July 26 2011 02:01 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:57 sandroba wrote:
Not really. Assuming DB is town, which I think he is, they couldn't be certain that he would reveal who got the Tim role. supersoft was basically cornered into shooting whoever shot YM, to prove he wasn't lying. Maybe they indeed did not think things through, but a more plausible explanation is that they are both mafia. It's not certain, but it explains things better than "mafia is dumb". It's worth keeping him around for DT checks anyway. If he's not mafia he's going to get shot eventually or confirm half the town.

Perhaps Tackster didn't think the role name would be displayed like that and thus the real Tim Roth wouldn't realize to do that. Tackster's role is much better for mafia than Supersoft's; just letting supersoft die would be by far the better option. Tackster is also a veteran while supersoft is a newer player.


How would he not realize that, when he get's the full role of the player? Either way let's not argue that right now. Jackal needs to quote supersoft or get lynched. I'll be happy if kita does it instead of jackal too.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 25 2011 17:07 GMT
#616
I would expect better play from kita than that if he's mafia. From what I recall in other games he almost always gets called out for this day 1, even as town. I would want more solid evidence against him than this. I can't say I like the play style, but it matches his meta and I haven't seen anything horribly condemning against him so far.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 25 2011 17:09 GMT
#617
Someone lied about Supersoft's role though

Supersoft:
This action will blow your cover and this will cause your alignment and role abilities to be revealed to the mafia


Dropbear:
His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 25 2011 17:12 GMT
#618
On July 26 2011 02:09 syllogism wrote:
Someone lied about Supersoft's role though

Supersoft:
Show nested quote +
This action will blow your cover and this will cause your alignment and role abilities to be revealed to the mafia


Dropbear:
Show nested quote +
His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him


lol did you just give yourself away as mafia?

"Hm, they said this but decon hasn't PM'ed it to me or my team yet."

Before I go ahead and lynch your scummy neck please explain to me if I'm seeing things right here.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 25 2011 17:14 GMT
#619
On July 26 2011 02:12 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 02:09 syllogism wrote:
Someone lied about Supersoft's role though

Supersoft:
This action will blow your cover and this will cause your alignment and role abilities to be revealed to the mafia


Dropbear:
His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him


lol did you just give yourself away as mafia?

"Hm, they said this but decon hasn't PM'ed it to me or my team yet."

Before I go ahead and lynch your scummy neck please explain to me if I'm seeing things right here.

Unless you suspect Deconduo changed Supersoft's role description due to his alignment, one of them is lying. It's possible, but I don't see any reason to do that
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
July 25 2011 17:14 GMT
#620
On July 26 2011 02:09 syllogism wrote:
Someone lied about Supersoft's role though

Supersoft:
Show nested quote +
This action will blow your cover and this will cause your alignment and role abilities to be revealed to the mafia


Dropbear:
Show nested quote +
His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him


Just means the host could have modified the role.
Decon did it slightly to the joker role I made bum last ptp. It was literally a change from bum could choose his rival, to making me his rival when I got the batman role.
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