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heist
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heist
United States720 Posts
On July 26 2011 06:25 Foolishness wrote: I am in favor of using the check, but BC's arguments are looking better and better as time goes on. If we can't agree on the check then I'm totally envisioning a scenario where supersoft comes back and goes "oh hey I checked random person X because random person Y said so" and we can't hold him accountable because we as a town did not agree on who to check. I have slammed my head against my desk so many times reading the thread at the stupidity of players that I'm going to die of blood loss at this rate. I don't want that. We use the  Check on someone like Wiggles, and even if it turns up mafia, we still kill Kitaman (or Jackal if he comes back and can't explain himself). We need the check's information, but we should not act upon it today.Are you kidding me? How is his argument getting better and better? SS using his check gives us NO NEGATIVES. Who cares if he just says town? If he flips green, we'll have a load of confirmed townies. Even if town argues about the dt target, if SS even checks one of them, we'll be good. ITS BETTER THAN NOTHING. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
Please read my argument about the confirmed townie bit if you are still arguing about that. I swear if you are doing this to make people think scum won't be vehemently arguing against something so pro-town, I will be very annoyed. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
You are purposefully being stubborn to make yourself look suspicious to make scum go. "Oh hey, BC has half the town thinking he's scum. Let's leave him alone." /joke but seriously your only negative is that town will be stupid and misuse the information. That is not a good reason to not use the dt checks. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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United States720 Posts
Not possible to analyze with any real depth based on what he's posted. Just suspicious enough to make you wonder. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
To reiterate: If jackal is town, ADVANTAGE: He gets to protect somebody. DISADVANTAGE: None. If Jackal is scum, ADVANTAGE: None. DISADVANTAGE: He has a chance to save his scum buddy. BUT think about it. What are the chances he correctly predicts who's getting targeted by the 3rd Party? That's if the 3rd Party happens to hit mafia. Town shouldn't be shooting on whims anyway. If we all agree to night vigi someone, we can take away the stone. This is only for night 1. I don't trust him, but if town allows him to live then I suggest we give him the protective ability. Right now the risks are very small if he's scum, and good payout if he's town. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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heist
United States720 Posts
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heist
United States720 Posts
The real question you should be asking yourself is "Is the possibility of a townie getting the med kit worth the risk of mafia getting it?" I say yes. Night 1 is not the time to be shooting at possible mafia targets if you are town. There is a very slim chance jackal correctly predicts the SK, if SK happens to shoot mafia. Pretend it like this if you don't like this situation. Deconduo comes down and gives us the option of giving one random player a med kit. We are all told who it is given to. And we can take it back at any time if we want to. Would you agree? | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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heist
United States720 Posts
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heist
United States720 Posts
You are not confirmed townie. And just because you are confirmed townie does not give you super accurate scum reads. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:48 Nisani201 wrote: It doesn't matter if you give someone the elder wand anyways. For someone to properly use the elder wand, said person must kill its last owner. So ON would have to kill sandroba to use it. On July 25 2011 10:56 Nisani201 wrote: There is probably a Snape, and in that case we should wait the whole Harry Potter/Voldemort thing out until Snape claims. He has not been doing anything pro-town at all this game. He is semi-lurking and from time to time, he pitches in a few lines of pure speculation or other worthless 1 liners. He has not tried to analyze anyone or tried to contribute to any town discussion. In fact his only convictions are his lynch votes which he hastily votes for with pretty much no analysis. On July 25 2011 12:27 Nisani201 wrote: Ugh, first I have redFF being a hero in Vigi mafia and shooting someone in the first hour of vigi mafia, and now I have this? Ugh, whatever. youngminii is probably scum, because he, you know, KILLED A TOWNIE ON THE SPOT. ##Vote youngminii On July 26 2011 10:13 Nisani201 wrote: BC is suspicious, but not just for trying to avoid an alignment check. This post I found particularly scummy: The above post was extremely uninformed and looked like it was trying to start a bandwagon. That, in addition to the reasons I stated earlier in this post, I think that BC is the best lynch. ##Vote: Bloodyc0bbler Not only is he not contributing, he is very willing to throw his vote to any bandwagon and to anyone that he feels safe voting for. Look at his post concerning BC. He states that BC is suspicious. OK, now let's see your reasoning. He brings up one post with BC providing his reasoning to lynch Jackal. It's curious to see him use "trying to start a bandwagon" as an excuse as that is exactly what he is doing. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
What bothers me about your vote for BC is your main reason is something he did before this entire fiasco with the dt checks. Why didn't you come out before? Why wait till BC has argued with a lot of the town and only vote to lynch after Curu did so? | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
On July 26 2011 11:23 Nisani201 wrote: Would you prefer me to vote for someone I don't feel safe voting for? Because that makes no sense. Safe as in you think you will not receive any backlash from your vote, not safe as in your convictions. | ||
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United States720 Posts
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EDWOP Were the alignments influenced in any way by role for anyone? | ||
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United States720 Posts
On July 26 2011 11:15 deconduo wrote: All alignments, including any possible godfathers, were RNGd/assigned by me and eiii. If mafia have godfathers they were pre-determined. My vote is clear. ##Vote: jackal58 | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
On July 26 2011 11:15 deconduo wrote: All alignments, including any possible godfathers, were RNGd/assigned by me and eiii. If mafia have godfathers they were pre-determined. Keyword here: assigned. I really want to stress that. Some people's alignments were randomly generated. Some people's alignments were assigned by the hosts. And who would have their alignments assigned? I don't know, maybe HARRY POTTER AND VOLDEMORT. I don't like the argument that the Jackal lynch is only based off flavour text. This is what deconduo has to say about flavour text. On July 25 2011 22:28 deconduo wrote: There are no alternative win conditions. You win with your alignment only. Anything that suggests otherwise in roles is just flavour. And here is the part of ON's role that is relevant: "You are Voldemort, and you are on a mission to kill Harry Potter and keep him from uniting the three Deathly Hallows. Each item you or Harry Potter obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night. ON is town. He does not have an alternate win condition to the rest of us. He wins with town. Is the part of the role telling him to kill Harry Potter "suggesting otherwise"? NO. This isn't flavour text. It is a clue, the role name of someone either 3rd party/scum. | ||
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