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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 04:58 GMT
#1714
But seriously look at how the game has played out.

A) palmar in one of the last people to vote on red and assure he dies

B) There are 8 people on nisani 0 on ym. Palmar goes nuts in IRC and fucking hounds every person who enters to switch to YM. He single handedly got YM killed. And this is with mafia KP on the line. This was an incredibly important lynch for them

C) Mafia then comes out and creates a fake case for why batman should shoot him. If mafia had actually worked out this insane plan to build palmar town cred would they risk making this case against him and having batman shoot him? Making it all a waste?

I mean what are the possible odds that this was all some massive mafia scheme just to buy insane town cred for palmar.

And if we do this it has to be almost gg. None of the dts are dead we will have so many confirmed townies it will be impossible for mafia to go through them all.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 05:03 GMT
#1716
It is possible he is third party but the main thing he will be doing is announcing to the thread the dt results so they don't have to claim and making sure vig shots/medics don't overlap. Palmar isn't going to come out and just say who everyone is we would insta lynch him. I mean even if he didn't want to help he has no choice. We don't give him any power to make decisions he just organizes them for the town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 05:05 GMT
#1717
I mean just look at how the game has gone and ask yourself what the realistic odds of palmar being mafia are. The amount that we gain from this outweighs the incredibly small risk by so much.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 12:12 GMT
#1743
Lucidity, so I guess after mafia had palmar bus YM and red (losing one of their KP). They then decided it would be a good idea to make a case against him calling him joker so batman would shoot him. Brilliant. Mafia sacrifices their own so they can then try and get them killed by batman. I love your critical thinking here. If you argue palmar can be mafia at this point then you are either A) mafia or B) clueless enough that no one should listen to a word you say. The odds of it are so astronomically low it isn't even worth discussing.

But look if people want to not claim to palmar then fine, I don't really care. No point in arguing it when a ton of people are always going to say no regardless.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 12:20 GMT
#1745
It wouldn't be phenomenal play it would be insanely stupid. They bus 2 players, losing kp, to make sure they give palmar a ton of town cred right. But then they risk all of it by making a case for batman to shoot him. Even if mafia had never told batman to shoot him, palmar already had a massive amount of town cred. Why in the world would they ever risk batman actually shooting him and wasting that just to try and get a little more? It literally makes 0 sense.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#1755
Haha I love jackal. Seriously no game is complete without jackal insulting a few people.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:28 GMT
#1796
Vigis whomever you choose to kill, do not shoot CB. CB is pretty much guaranteed II but he has quit. He didn't vote last time and he will be modkilled tomorrow, do not waste your shot.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:45 GMT
#1797
If you look at the mafia deaths you see Crjninja (newb), Redff (upper mid tier player), YM (Veteran). Normally Roleblocker will go to the best player that is not godfather. Since YM was the Godfather and Redff was just a goon you can say with a very high probability that the rber is someone more experience than Red. So the mafia rber is almost certainly one of, Amber/Jackal/Wiggles/Kavdragon/Zona. There is some small chance kenpachi/decon/rol could be rber but it is a lot less likely.

I would be fine with all 5 of the players listed dying but here is the order of importance for killing them

1. Amber - Amber actually contributed more as a dog in PTP. His posts day 1 were 100% about game mechanics then day 2 he posted one awful analysis. He has done absolutely nothing this game, lurked as scum in the past, and if you look at the one analysis he did do it is full of logic errors (common scum forced analysis trait).

2. Jackal - Has done 0 scum hunting, at least in the thread. Voted nisani without even discussing YM. Also the fact that both him and YM pointed out honeypot to nota makes him more suspicious.

3. Zona - Been completely useless. I am not real familiar with Zona's meta but as a vet he should be contributing much much more. Many of Zona's posts are on game mechanics and provide no help to the town. Along with that zona voted for ym without very good reasoning late in the day when it would be easy for scum to bandwagon on.

4. Kavdragon - was part of the infiltrated honeypot, has not contributed much this game. But YM subtly implied to naz in a pm that nota's death might have implicated Kav. So I am willing to put him lower on the list of my suspicions.

5. Wiggles - I have thought wiggles wasn't town most of the game actually. He also defended YM several times in thread and pm and he voted Nisani instead of YM. However every time YM posted saying I should be lynched he mentioned honeypot. The main 2 people that were implicated in honeypot were myself/wiggles. If YM had gotten me lynched, I would have flipped town and so he would have been forced to push for wiggles lynch next. This is basically the only real strong thing to defend wiggles there is but it seems important to me. If wiggles/ym were actually both scum I think YM would have told wiggles about honeypot so he could tell notasmurf and not be implicated by it. So for now I think wiggles is at least not scum, he could still easily be third party.

Besides those guys I think Prpl/Pyo/Lucidity/Sevryn should be viggd/killed/dt checked.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:45 GMT
#1798
Oh also I agree bum would be a good one to check. He is normally much more helpful but I am not sure if he has rl things or what.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:53 GMT
#1799
If I were to guess exact scum team I would go with Amber/Jackal/Prpl/Sevryn.

3rd parties - RoL/Decon/Wiggles
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 01:02 GMT
#2217
f5f5f5f5f5
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 01:15 GMT
#2219
gg!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 01:19 GMT
#2224
rofl maybe you should have tried to lynch palmar day 1 syllo!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 01:22 GMT
#2228
I killed the same amount of scum as you palmar. And I didn't massacre any innocent townies.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 01:29 GMT
#2234
Oh yea mafia qt!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 01:32 GMT
#2236
no the game is over draz lol
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 01:52 GMT
#2238
So in the end which master plan ended up being less effective.

RoL trying to level the town multiple times to trick lucid into trusting him while still lynching him. Or Notasmurf's honeypot where he ended up concluding 2 townies had to be scum and 2 scum were guaranteed town haha.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 30 2011 16:17 GMT
#2279
On July 31 2011 01:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
GG, why didnt that medic protect me


You and draz were too busy protecting palmar lol
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