BC's Arkham Asylum - Page 3

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 05:15 GMT

#1235

I gave no one the links to the 2 QTs

I was only part of 2 QTs I never logged in while visiting any of them. And I visited both of them from my desktop, laptop, phone.

I am currently trying to test what exactly will change the unique visitor count. Does anyone want to help me with this? If we can establish that visiting qts from different computers doesn't change the unique visitor count then I fully support killing both me and wiggles/ unless either of us has a role which can confirm itself.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 05:30 GMT

#1237

YM can you create a qt real fast and pm me its link

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 05:52 GMT

#1240

From testing in YM's QT.

I posted as Mig unregistered on 3 different computers and it did not change the unique viewer count. I then logged in as Mig on all 3 and posted and it did change it by 1?

Can someone create another qt and pm me it so I can test again in case I fucked something up.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 06:20 GMT

#1242

Meh I got the same error again. In the qt I created I got 5 unique visitors even tho I only had 2 registered accounts look at it and 2 unregistered accounts post on unique names.

So what I know for sure is you get a unique visitor every time someone unregistered posts under a unique name. And if any registered account just looks at the thread it increases the unique visitor count.

But there is a way to increase the unique viewers even using less accounts if you are switching between computers. But I don't know what is causing it.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 07:14 GMT

#1246

How do you even see the # of registered viewers? All I see is views and unique visitors. Is there a way to determine how many registered accounts had viewed the thread? If there are only unique visitors and views then I believe the data is faulty because I have been able to manipulate it while switching computers with a smaller number of accounts. But if people can verify that the data is accurate then me and wiggles should be killed (assuming neither of us have a role which can be confirmed).

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 09:46 GMT

#1257

I agree with palmar completely. What possible scenario is there where a medic would save RoL instead of someone like curu? It makes literally no sense. Along with that RoL's apathetic and shady play is definitely consistent with a 3rd party.

Hopefully RoL is the joker and we can eliminate all of the third party in 1 shot.

##Vote RebirthOfLeGenD

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 10:12 GMT

#1265

Ketomai how could he possibly be mafia lol? There is no way for mafia to survive a night hit unless a medic saved them. RoL is almost 100% 3rd party

Naz makes a very good point. Would it be better for us to try and remove KP that is guaranteed anti town or have the guaranteed removal of neutral kp. I really wish we knew who RoL shot yesterday, because if he shot Curu/syllo/notasmurf then he is clearly using his kp in an anti town way.

Btw I don't think it was a vig that shot RoL. If a vig shot RoL then 8 kp could have potentially been used last night, 3 mafia, 3rd party, 2 vigs. Only 5 people died and decon/rol claiming hits. It seems a lot more likely to me that one of the third parties shot RoL and couldn't kill him, like Ras shooting Joker. That would account for all of the missing kp.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 10:27 GMT

#1269

I haven't spoken much with RoL through pms. Curu told me that RoL was trying to buddy up with him quite a bit but that is all I know about how active RoL has been in pms.

Regardless of RoL's pm activity I really doubt he has done anything at all to help the town. So I certainly agree his play is not town like. But it seems unlikely to me that he would ever fake claim a hit as mafia right now. Seems 100x more likely he is 3rd party.

And so we have to decide whether killing a 3rd party is more important than lowering mafia kp which is guaranteed to be directed at town.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 10:44 GMT

#1273

Ok but what about the fact that RoL could be shot by the other 3rd parties and killed tonight? He is pretty much guaranteed 3rd party. So as long as he isnt Ras then the other 3rd parties will shoot and kill him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 10:45 GMT

#1274

We may not even need to use a lynch on him. We can have the 3rd parties take care of it for us. If he survives the night then he is almost certainly Ras and we could lynch him then.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 10:46 GMT

#1275

Yea actually I am going to unvote. I think our best option is to let the other 3rd parties take care of him tonight and we try to lynch mafia ourselves.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 10:53 GMT

#1279

There is really no point in us lynching RoL. The sks are guaranteed to try and kill him tonight.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 11:44 GMT

#1296

I did not admit to being scum lol. And I am not scum.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 13:21 GMT

#1321

Nisani is ridiculous scummy and should be killed asap.

Nisani has done virtually 0 scum hunting and contributed absolutely nothing to the town this game. While repeatedly talking about how much work he is putting into his graph (which no one will ever get to see). A common scum tell is to talk about what analysis they are providing the town without every actually producing any. If that weren't enough look at these posts.

On July 20 2011 02:09 Nisani201 wrote:
Unless there's something I've missed (which is unlikely because I read through the thread 3x as slowly as I input everything into my node graph), the only evidence against redFF that isn't related to supersoft is the fact that he posts a lot of spam, which isn't enough to warrant a lynch at all.

On July 20 2011 01:54 Nisani201 wrote:
I really don't think we should be voting for redFF today. Most of the evidence against him has to do with supersoft, therefore lynching supersoft first will give us more information on him, and whether or not the lynch will be worth it.

On July 19 2011 04:11 Nisani201 wrote:

Supersoft has far too many scumtells to be ignored; however if he flips green then I would seriously consider lynching Curu D2, as he started the bandwagon.

A) He strongly defends scum Redff, trying to repeatedly push the lynch off of him.

B) He tries to get supersoft lynched with the reasoning that it will give us more information ( I am sure if we lynched supersoft and he flipped green he would have used that to defend red)

C) The worst thing by far is he calls supersoft incredibly scummy but then says that we should lynch curu if super flips green. Remember this is the exact same strategy redff was using. Red was strongly attacking curu so that when super flipped green he could use that to try and get the town to mislynch curu day2. Also after he made this post syllo called him out on it and he completely disappeared from the thread.

Nisani has provided nothing to the town while promising analysis that we will never see. Defended and tried to push the lynch off of a confirmed scum. And he used the same strategy as Redff in trying to prepare a mislynch of curu day 2, despite the fact that he himself called Super scummy.

##vote Nisani

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 14:30 GMT

#1349

Btw concerning clue analysis. Pretty sure it was joker who killed syllo. It says syllo and coag were killed in hilarious ways. We already know harley killed coag so it makes sense for harley/joker to kill people in hilarious ways. Along with that syllo was killed with a crowbar. The joker beat up/killed robin primarily using a crowbar in one of the most famous comic book deaths.

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Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 22 2011 02:08 GMT

#1485

I have said like 50 times that the honeypot data can be manipulated. Is no one willing to actually test it out themselves to verify that it is accurate? I even did it in your QT that you created and were watching YM. Why not just put some effort into actually testing it yourselves to see if I am telling the truth? If the data can be verified then lynch me/wiggles easy.

Decon I am sure you figured out half the scum team and all the third partys from day 1 clues. Have you read any of the other clue games? Most games no one is even caught by the clues..... You did not catch everyone in the game from day 1 clues lol. The clues are meant to be ridiculously vague at the start of the game just so things like that don't happen.

So as far as I am concerned the points against me are honeypot - which the data is not accurate, decons clue which is completely nonsensical because there is 0 chance you are catching people from day 1 clues. And then the fact that I voted VE. Yea I voted VE but I made a strong case against red before (when it would have made no sense for the mafia to do so) and then I gave my reasons for switching to VE, which I still think were correct. And you want to lynch me for VE when I made a good case for why I voted him when people like nisani and YM not only did not vote red but actively defended him lol......

Also YM your reasoning towards palmar is so awful its hilarious. You honestly think CB is third party? Use some common sense. Do you think a third party would fake claim II to VE? I mean what purpose would that possibly serve? And it would put himself hugely at risk. Almost certainly CB is II, there is about a 0% chance he is 3rd party. RoL on the other hand is almost guaranteed 3rd party. Because there is no reason for mafia to lie about being medic protected and mafia would not have survived a shot last night. RoL is a third party who was shot and tried to claim he was protected in case a vig claimed shooting him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 22 2011 14:01 GMT

#1514

Amber lol. Great posts. You are really providing a ton of content for the town. You mind actually giving some reasons that you don't think they are 3rd party? Like who exactly do you think shot RoL and why would he claim medic prot? Why won't decon give his role name?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 22 2011 14:43 GMT

#1526

Amber I like how redff was obvious scum, yet you didnt vote for him? Or VE? That is quite interesting.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 22 2011 14:46 GMT

#1528

Also amber you want to talk about a complete 180 for how someone is playing. Take a look at your own play. Have you posted an opinion this entire game before now? Have you done any scum hunting whatsoever before this post? You had what 7 posts day 1? And they all discussed game mechanics? Where is the normal amber who scum hunts. I can recall mafia 39 you lurked hard day 1 and chaoser caught you immediately because of it.

Btw if I am the ring leader why are you voting palmar instead of me?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 22 2011 16:56 GMT

#1546

After talking with nisani on IRC I feel slightly better about him. I still think he is scummy but I feel stronger now about YM being scum.

Here is a pm I sent to wiggles yesterday listing my reasons I thought YM was scummy.

hmm I think YM is super scummy. How exactly is he contributing and stating his opinions? The main thing I see from him is just him attacking RoL repeatedly (a very easy target) he barely comments on other things. Usually when he is town I see a lot of aggression and attacks from him I am not seeing him attack anyone besides rol this game. Then looking at specific posts.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240299&currentpage=40#797

Read Red's ridiculously poor defense of himself. His defense was so bad but it was apparently good enough to instantly convince YM that he was town. Also I like how he says scum can't be that bad but he had no problem voting for super earlier even though super had played insanely terrible.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240299&currentpage=40#792

lynching anyone at this point gies no information about anyone. Uh lol. He then tries to make a case that lynching RoL gives us information lol.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240299&currentpage=37#721

hunch that redff is town eh, then says bad players are the easiest to lynch so they shouldn't be lynched? But then goes after RoL who isn't even posting in the thread to defend himself lol.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240299&currentpage=26#515

Redff was attacking curu so hard almost certainly because he knew Super was green and wanted to try and push a mislynch of curu day 2 if super was killed. YM uses the same strategy here just adding something so that he could attack curu later on.

My last point would be Ym and redff are 2 of the only people to refuse to pm with me. The mafia are much more likely to be scared to pm and answer my questions in comparison to townies.

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