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Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 18 2011 12:57 GMT

#476

EBWOP supplementing the information I am getting from the thread*

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 18 2011 13:01 GMT

#479

But it should be common sense that it is more likely for mafia to leak anything than it is for townies to leak anything. The mafia has 500x the amount of information to hide. Leaking information isn't what really kills towns. It is poor players auto trusting the wrong people and getting manipulated. But I am not exactly worried about that so I am going to continue to use pms to try and figure out who the mafia are.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 18 2011 14:02 GMT

#507

I have pmd almost everyone. Maybe like 5-10 people haven't been pmd.

I was going to post that conversation as well super. Notice how he first claims to not even be reading the thread to see where we repeatedly said claiming vt was bad, yet he knew that kenpachi and gtrsrs had claimed VT. He then proceeds to call me mafia after I yelled at him. I tell him to go ahead and push for my lynch then if he thinks I am mafia. He responds by saying no he isn't going to do that because I am the only person to write to him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 12:23 GMT

#702

Redff has been worse than useless this game. Many of his posts have 0 content and are pure spam, yet early on he asked for people to not spam. Along with that where is the normal aggressive redff? Normally redff is one of the most active scum hunters as town. This game he tunnels and attacks curu who presented a solid case on super soft. Besides that he hasn't provided any content or tried to actually build a case against anyone. Very unlike Red's normal town play.

Along with that his defense of Super is very suspicious. The only reason he gives for defending him is that he feels he is newb town instead of newb scum. So basically he is defending him just purely on a hunch, he provides 0 evidence or any real reasoning for his conclusion. Yet despite the fact that he has virtually no way to tell if Super is new town instead of new scum he posts with extreme conviction. He defends him very strongly and attacks curu like mad just because he is targeting Super. This is extremely strange behavior for a townie, considering they don't know everyone's alignment and with the information he has Super should look very scummy. But it makes perfect sense for mafia to strongly defend someone they know is town to A) buy town cred and B) attempt to get the town to mislynch tomorrow by targeting the people who made the case against Super.

So because of his change in meta, lack of content and the extremely suspicious way he has defended Super I am switching my vote from Super to Redff.

##unvote supersoft
##vote Redff

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 13:26 GMT

#720

Pyo wtf you realize all you have done this game is say you aren't suspicious of anyone like 50 times. Surely there has to be someone you are suspicious of? There are 25 pages of posts. Are you really saying you haven't seen anything at all that worries you?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 13:38 GMT

#723

On July 19 2011 22:32 youngminii wrote:

I have a hunch that redFF is innocent. I have a hunch, that like supersoft, town is just bandwagoning on a bad townie. Why? Well because they're the easiest people to lynch, they look guilty so they lynch him. Meanwhile the really guilty guys get away hands clean.

Instead of spending your time going against redFF or supersoft, PLEASE take a look at RoL. He has done NOTHING and has lurked. Seriously, try and remember this:

RoL is the guy that hosted a game with a mechanic to punish lurkers.

Some of you guys want to policy lynch supersoft. Isn't lynching RoL the same? A policy lynch for lurking when he apparently 'hates' lurking?

disclaimer: whether or not supersoft/redff will flip green or red doesn't matter to me, the fact is i believe rol is scummier than both of them put together multiplied by the distance of the earth to the moon

Is RoL lurking or is he straight not playing? There is a big difference. Right now he is on pace to be mod killed. So why vote for him? If he comes in and posts a couple times just to slide by then I agree but right now voting for him is a waste.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 13:55 GMT

#733

On July 19 2011 22:47 Pyo wrote:

I don't understand why everyone keeps pressuring me to start accusing people. Sure there are suspicious people. About half the people in the game haven't really posted much of anything. We've got a bunch of people throwing out 4+ simultaneous accusations. You've been happy-go-lucky PM spamming. Cluttering up the thread with a million and one accusations is dumb. The 3 big fos's are supersoft, redff, and myself. I know I'm town. As I just said above redff seems to be almost too spammy to be mafia, and as for supersoft:

Pyo you understand the point of the game for town is to lynch mafia right? That means you should be searching for something suspicious for you to place your vote on. Abstaining and not voting helps no one but mafia. Not only are you not helping find scum but you are giving the town 0 information about your alignment. How exactly is the town supposed to know you are town when you do 0 scum hunting and refuse to cast a relevant vote?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 14:37 GMT

#749

On July 19 2011 23:30 ghrur wrote:
God I feel so neglected. You all suck, except for Drazerk. Vote for freaking wiggles. )=<

I thought your case against wiggles was good ghrur. But I think the case against pyo or redff is stronger right now.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 14:57 GMT

#758

Curu if mafia gets into the circle they won't kill the vigs lol. They will attempt to misdirect all of the shots. Your plan has a huge potential for a disaster. I would rather the Vigs act on their own since they don't know for sure right now who is guaranteed to be town besides themselves. Their shots won't be wasted by overlap anyway. If we do have a confirmed townie later on then we can discuss the idea of people claiming to him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 22:00 GMT

#894

I 100% believe VE is scum. I had already told a couple people I had thought he was scum before wiggles convo. Look at his day 1 play of RTM (where he was mafia) and compare it to today. It is almost identical. He is normally a very active scum hunter as town. This game and RTM he has basically done 0 scum hunting and 0 analysis. And does anyone believe his excuse that he was trying to trap wiggles? Look at his posts in the thread he hadn't commented on anything or anyone besides RoL all thread. He hadn't made any effort to scum hunt yet he was trying to trap wiggles? Just doesn't add up.

The only thing I worry about is the lack of information we will gain from it. Along with kavdragon raising a good point we have no shot at lowering the mafia kp by killing VE. Still though probably best to just kill a confirmed scum.

##unvote redff
##vote VE

Normally I encourage vigs to hold off on their shots this early in the game but there are a lot of very very good targets right now for them. So if vigs shoot tonight shoot between redff/nisani/pyo. I really hope someone kills redff.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 19 2011 22:12 GMT

#902

Yea vigs shoot cb lol unless he shows proof that he revealed this as a plan to fish for mafia beforehand. In a pm game there is no reason you wouldn't tell someone else about your plans to try and trap someone and draw out a mafia if you are town. That way if your plan failed you would have proof that you were just fishing and not telling the truth. This point holds for VE as well.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 20 2011 00:55 GMT

#999

Red my and syllos posts against you provide a very strong case. You haven't done any of your normal scum hunting whatsoever. Along with that you defended a townie who lied and was playing very scummy and your only reasoning was you thought he was a newbie town, which you never gave any reasoning or evidence to back up. Your defense of him was extremely unlike a townie and very suspicious. People defending others with poor reasoning can be just as damning as people attacking without a good case.

VE I don't believe you are town. Your play so far has been identical to your RTM mafia play. You did absolutely 0 scum hunting before wiggles called you out. You just lurked while providing nothing for the town. Very very different from your normal town play.

I also think CB and Kav are likely traitors as well. The point nazgul made about kav is very strong. There is little reason Kav would ask people not to kill VE and then go and try to fish for information by talking to him. It seems much more likely that kav was legitimately trying to save him because he is also a traitor.

So right now I want red/VE/kav/CB dead. Red/VE/Kav as the main 3.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 20 2011 00:59 GMT

#1004

Wonderful claim red. Really does a lot to prove your innocence.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 20 2011 02:15 GMT

#1058

Wonderful CB is claiming that VE altered the pm to frame him. So one of them is certainly lying and at worst one of them is pretty much guaranteed anti town and there is still a good chance they are both anti town.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 20 2011 02:18 GMT

#1060

Personally I think they are both IIs still. And CB altered the real pm in the hopes that if VE flips II people will let him slide.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 20 2011 02:31 GMT

#1064

Seriously Vigs out there shoot CB or VE or both of them. One of them altered a PM and is guaranteed to be lying. There is close to a 0% chance that they can both be town.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 20 2011 02:36 GMT

#1067

On July 20 2011 11:34 CreamyButter wrote:
I'm pretty sure both of us being II is the only situation that is not actually possible.

Why you could easily be altering the PM to try and save yourself if VE flips II.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 20 2011 03:58 GMT

#1083

If you are telling the truth Kav your plan was extremely poorly planned out. Your defense of VE in the thread makes you extremely suspicious. All you have really done is distract the town and bring a ton of suspicion onto yourself. Telling notasmurf about your plan helps but you told someone who has contributed almost nothing in thread to the town. It is plausible that mafia could risk one of their members to vouch for you in thread if they felt the chances of you dying were low enough. There is really 0 reason for the town to trust either you or notasmurf.

I don't know if you are telling the truth or lying but clearly VE/CB are much more important targets atm. So meh.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 03:12 GMT

#1210

Ok before Curu died he claimed to me that he was a compulsive vig and was shooting Coag. So that accounts for 1 kp.

Then mafia had 3 kp and there were 3 3rd party kp. So considering only 5 people died there is 2 kp missing.

Does anyone want to claim the crjninja kill?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 21 2011 04:20 GMT

#1226

Ok while looking at the clues you can see sad/sadly used for Curu/Notasmurf/syllo's deaths. Sad is not used to refer to Coag's death or crjninjas. Which makes me think curu/nota/syllo were the 3 mafia kills. Coag we know was curu's and crj's was most likely by the joker.

As for the clues themselves I don't really know. After looking at them the best I could come up with was.

Curu was shocked to death by the floor - Visceraeyes is the name of a mars volta album. Volta = volt = shock

I searched for crowbar. Crowbar can refer to a canadian band also a canadian drink. Wiggles is the only living canadian.

Both those things are definitely a stretch tho. I will keep looking to see if I can find anything better.

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