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On July 11 2011 11:11 Mig wrote: Hey Curu you really need to claim. You talked a lot about how if sandroba flipped green you would claim. Basically the only thing you have posted in a long time is how you are against name claiming and how suspicious YM/sandroba are. Well now that sandroba/YM are both green who do you think the last mafia are? Still reading through, just got to this post. I'm good for my word. I'm J. Brobert Oppenheimer. Yeah, every one of those little missiles flying in the air is my baby. Back to reading the rest of this thread. | ||
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I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying. 1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit. 2. Boreritish spelled wrong. More thoughts to come in a sec, this is a buttload of new info to take in. | ||
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Misder. Hasn't done anything useful. Comes out of hiding once to nuke someone (who turned out to be scum). Votes on operations without trying to lynch anyone. I think he's third party trying to avoid attention. kitaman: ANOTHER third party claim? And a fairly useless third party too. Complete suspicion of him ATM based on claim though. Judging from Palmar's role though I'd say useless third parties aren't much of a rarity. I mean you give Conspirator the win condition of having the WRL reached and then you give someone else the power to have nukes cause no radiation for two days? lol. Strikes me as best lynch ATM because no Townie would claim a third party role. Either he's scum or actually a third party so there's almost no chance he's Town. His power is also far too convenient. Two Moonspeaks die and suddenly he claims the ability to hit Moonspeak people? TAA: Why did you nuke heist? What in the world is your reason? Looks like he just jumped on the everyone is nuking I can too without being suspected bandwagon. You've also been fairly useless and unconvicted of trying to lynch anyone. Navillus: Again pure nameclaim suspicion. This: I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying. 1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit. 2. Boreritish spelled wrong. With this: On July 11 2011 12:31 Navillus wrote: I actually didn't notice this but I just copied and pasted my name/nationality from the role PM so perhaps I'm some splinter group fighting for Irish independence and just don't know it yet... And then this: On July 11 2011 13:09 Navillus wrote: Sigh. This is what I hear: "The only piece of evidence I have for you being mafia is that you misspelled a faction name, and it is common knowledge that mafia are worse spellers than townies Q.E.D. you are mafia. Misspelled claim, says he copy pasted and then says he misspelled his claim later. I really have to go to bed (grumpy gf) but I promise more thoughts in the morning. | ||
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On July 11 2011 16:15 Mig wrote: Curu misder is dead and he shot a scum lol. My bad. Well scratch that one then. Caller can you update OP with important posts please? I'm really in a rush ATM but I'll have all my complete thoughts in the morning. | ||
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On July 11 2011 16:20 Navillus wrote: Ok so 3 things 1. Why on earth would I go to the trouble to pick a name WITH THE WORD BORE IN IT and not spell it as such, sure if I just picked some random name the lack of bore might be suspicious but me finding possibly the one major British person in WWII with the word bore already there and then deciding not to add the e would be stupid, and don't just say "ok you're stupid" that's not an argument, also 2. The misspelling of boreritish is actually the dumbest reason to accuse someone that I have ever seen, my accusers have yet to explain why my being mafia would make it more likely for me to misspell it or make a typo, I'm done responding to this point unless someone brings up something with some semblance of logic behind it, also 3. I think it is pretty likely that at least one scum is accusing me, a few people accused me so it's safe, and it definitely helps them to have people wasting their time arguing for/against me being scum, also I really don't think that there's solid enough evidence against me to actually convince a whole lot of townies to go after me, also I said it's purely based on nameclaim. I also said many times I don't like pure nameclaim hunting for many reasons. I also said you are least suspicious on my list. Judging by the fakeclaims of the other scum though they put almost no effort into it (seriously all claiming third parties? If kita flips scum then add +1 to that). You are far too defensive at the slightest pointing of you for my liking to be Town but again this doesn't seem to mean much (case: sandroba) and I was wrong about that. The Town playstyle that I'm used to is completely different but this can be attributed to everyone essentially being blue (nukes lolz) or TL Mafia just being different. SERIOUSLY going to bed now. A few hours to sleep then I'll be back to post. | ||
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Kita has already eaten a nuke. He is FOR SURE dead if we lynch him. He might survive this nuke again and delay his flip even more. I am certain kita is scum now. Someone doesn't want him vote lynched. Do not assume he is dead from this nuke. This antimissile only makes sense in these contexts: Kita is lynch immune but can't survive nukes. This makes no sense. Lynch immunity really? REALLY? I have never seen this on scum in any game I have ever read or played. Kita is nuke immune but not lynch immune. I think this most likely. If we assume he's dead from this nuke and redirect our votes and then day ends when the nuke lands on him (and he survives) that ends day and Kita goes unlynched. So why waste an antimissile on Kita? Several scenarios I can envision: -Put heat on Kita. Makes no sense since he was going to die to lynch anyways. -Bait another nuke at Kita. I'm leaning towards this one. Why waste something as valuable as an antinuke? Perhaps the majority of scum remaining are nuke immune. Three have been hit and killed by nukes already. If there really is a zombie faction within the scum then it's very likely the rest of them are nuke immune. Which brings me back to WHY ARE WE NUKING KITA WHEN WE LYNCH HIM AND HE'S STONE COLD DEAD. So why should scum bait another nuke at Kita? 1. Waste a townie's nuke OR help someone gain town cred. 2. IT ALLOWS KITA TO RETALIATE NUKE. This is what I firmly believe. Kita is essentially dead. If he survives this nuke he dies to lynch. They are trying to maximize his value. He gets to fire another missile before he dies. Navillus is confirmed Town now IMO. I guarantee you Kita is going to fire back at him. If someone else nukes Kita then he gets to retaliate yet again. Mig if you are sure Kita is scum why are we not lynching him with fire? Why are we throwing more nukes at him when he is very probably nuke immune? Why give him the chance to retaliate? I understand the antimissile point but so many of you are nuke immune/can eat multiple nukes that the lynch is the only method I fully trust now. That anti is very likely not worth much to scum and just used to cause even more confusion/diversion. I said this on day 1. WE HAVE THE LYNCH. LET'S NOT GET SO FOCUSED ON MISSILES WE FORGET THAT. The lynch is FINAL. NUKES can be affected by abilities. If Kita nukes back and Nav flips green you just went from almost certainly Town to blaring alarm in my eyes Mig since you were the one pushing for him to get nuked. You're also now asking people to nuke TAA. DO YOU REALLY WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO RETALIATE? Look at him he's trying to fucking bait a nuke already after being so ready to nuke himself earlier. How convenient that you want other people to nuke him but you can't be the one to fire it. Kita and TAA are prime lynch candidates right now, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO NUKE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO RETALIATE? They are dead in the water. TAA raises really good points about GM. Don't clear GM based on his nameclaim/"actions." HE DID NOT SAVE MATAZA. He claimed to have saved Mataza but no antimissile was actually fired. On July 12 2011 00:02 GMarshal wrote: Thats it. Doomsday time. ##Activate: Fall Blau See you all in hell. Fall Blau is GERMAN. If you are really Town why the fuck are you trying to make people think you're scum? If you were scum that is such an obvious godamn slip. IF YOU ARE TOWN STOP PULLING THIS LYING SHIT, YOU ARE NOT HELPING. I'm convinced there's one red between TAA and GM. If Kita retaliates and Nav flips green, I'm inclined to believe it's TAA and Mig is his buddy. | ||
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On July 12 2011 06:24 Mig wrote: Right I do think he is scum. I have posted my analysis of why he is scum multiple times. And yes he could be nuke immune but if he was immune do you think he would be arguing so strongly against having a townie nuke him? And seriously how likely is it for a scum to just have 3 lives? He claimed 3 lives before because he was british + vet. So would him having 3 lives prove he is innocent? No. But it would make him look better. I am trying to give us the maximum amount of information possible to make the correct decision on who we should lynch. I mean come on now people. And yes clearly if kita survives this next nuke we lynch him. Nuking Kita allows him to fire another nuke of his own. Nuking him if you are sure he is scum when there's even a chance he might survive is just letting him take another Townie down with him. Instead of dying quietly to the lynch he now has caused another Townie nuke wasted AND he gets to nuke that Townie back. | ||
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Kita is 100% scum. No doubt in my mind. I'm leaning towards Mig being scum but I'm not completely sold. I might be completely wrong in my analysis. I lean a lot more heavily if Nav is retaliated against and flips green. One of TAA and GM is scum. If Nav flips green and Mig is red then it's 100% TAA. If not GM's actions have been a lot more scummy. Complain about stupid townies then lie 5 million times while letting slip a German operation? Coag says he can confirm himself in the day post. I'm inclined to believe him unless this is false. Drazerk I'm leaning Town but your constant nameclaim confusion doesn't help Town either. Once I can understand in showing the perils of nameclaim reliance but three times? I'm still leaning towards Town though. Nav I'm sure is Town. I also think he's dead now. I just realized how far under my radar dec and prplhz are. Will analyze them soon. | ||
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On July 12 2011 06:36 Mig wrote: Curu the retaliation nuke is actually a great point I hadn't considered. But there were what only 3/4 people who hadn't fired nukes yet do you think they would spend an anti nuke just in the hopes one of the last couple people fired at kita again? Basically I had it in my head that Kita/TAA are both scum. They know that if kita dies to the nuke then TAA will be lynched next and they lose 2 players today. And like GM said kita may have a powerful role they need during the night. They could have used the anti nukes to save wiggles or jeejee or kurumi but didn't. There must be some reason they saved Kita. And really curu you are suspicious of me? Really so I suppose today while 0 mafia were dead I just got it in my head to bus the entire mafia team is that right? And not to mention how on day 1 I saved YM (town) and killed Palmar (conspirator). I really shouldn't have to argue my innocence at this point. YM died anyways. Killing Palmar with a nuke allowed sandroba to get lynched (which I really wanted to happen, btw, but he flipped green) since Palmar was the leading lynch candidate until he died. I don't like this being the only thing that shows your innocence. GM and TAA both seem to exhibit some sort of nuke resistance. GM has survived one and so has TAA. So has Kita. I'm inclined to believe much of the remaining scum team has nuke resistance especially since three have already died that didn't. If I am right then that antimissile was worthless anyways. | ||
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On July 12 2011 06:41 Mig wrote: I guess even tho nobody at all besides me was accusing kita or kurumi. I just decided it would be a good idea to bus the entire team. I mean I fucking shot kurumi, redirected the nuke into kita and called out wiggles as being my third most suspicious person. And I am by far the most active person in analyzing and discussing ideas. And you really still think I am scum. Amazing. I said I'm leaning towards scum. You have done quite a bit for Town but like I have been saying letting one scum slip into confirmed Town status at lylo is loss. I am not confirming you that easily. I won't tunnel in my own analysis (it's been wrong once re sandroba) but if Nav flips green what I proposed makes a lot more sense to me. | ||
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I am so confused. | ||
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Caller u trolling? | ||
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tbh this game just seemed like flinging shit at each other and waiting to see who Caller decided he wanted to win. It's going to be something random like "lol I lied Drazerk your anti radiation nukes actually doubled the radiation of each nuke." | ||
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http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bastard_Mod Which is what I think this was. | ||
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