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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
On July 12 2011 05:50 Coagulation wrote: will there be radiation? nope, but dont anyway Houdini died from a punch in his stomach, since he had some illness in his stomach. Houdini was like you can punch me, but then he punched to fast and he wasnt ready. Now i most likely dont have some stomach sickness, but im getiting old and you just dont stomach punch old people, thats just wrong man. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
I have 2 nukes left but I already shot kurumi today so I don't believe I am allowed to shoot again. Otherwise believe me I would. | ||
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Mig
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On July 12 2011 05:56 Mig wrote: TAA you were all for nuking yourself earlier to try and confirm yourself as town. Now I want to do the same thing and you seem extremely hesitant. Isn't it better for you to be nuked than lynched? Knew he faked it on purpose arm the nukes! | ||
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
dude, i didnt mind my 3rd live taken away, but thats already been done know. you guys want to take away my second live as well  i didnt fake on purpose though, with caller involved (<3) thats kinda a big risk. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
1) TAA claims british 2) TAA then also claims vet giving him 3 lives. TAA then "tries" to nuke himself to prove that he is telling the truth since he doesn't need 3 lives but he put the command in wrong so the nuke never fired. 3) TAA then is nuked by heist and survived. 4) I now want to fire 1 more nuke at TAA just to try and see whether he was lying or not about having 3 lives. TAA was gunho about being nuked earlier so he could prove that he was telling the truth and get town cred. But now that I have proposed the same plan TAA had earlier he is completely against it. Conclusion - TAA is a scum veteran with 2 lives. He was fine with losing 1 life earlier to buy town cred but now that he has been nuked once he knows he will die if shot again. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
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Mig
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
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Mig
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On July 12 2011 06:16 TheAwesomeAll wrote: GM only has opinions on how to kill lurkers in an excruciating way. so pretty much his town play from every game then? then again he said not to meta him so take it as you want. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On July 12 2011 06:13 Mig wrote: Can anyone give me reasons why this is a bad idea? Coag/GM? Because having 3 lives indicates nothing about his alignment. He could be nuke proof and have 17 anti-nukes, or lasers and an EMP generator. How do any of these traits prove him to be scum or town? Also, I have to wonder, why did an anti-nuke save kita while wiggles and JeeJee were not spared? I think kita might be a key mafia role, and we really need to consider lynching if he doesn't die to the nuke. I'm fine with killing TAA if you think he is scum, but realize that having 2 or 3 or fifteen lives doesn't show his alignment at all. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
Kita has already eaten a nuke. He is FOR SURE dead if we lynch him. He might survive this nuke again and delay his flip even more. I am certain kita is scum now. Someone doesn't want him vote lynched. Do not assume he is dead from this nuke. This antimissile only makes sense in these contexts: Kita is lynch immune but can't survive nukes. This makes no sense. Lynch immunity really? REALLY? I have never seen this on scum in any game I have ever read or played. Kita is nuke immune but not lynch immune. I think this most likely. If we assume he's dead from this nuke and redirect our votes and then day ends when the nuke lands on him (and he survives) that ends day and Kita goes unlynched. So why waste an antimissile on Kita? Several scenarios I can envision: -Put heat on Kita. Makes no sense since he was going to die to lynch anyways. -Bait another nuke at Kita. I'm leaning towards this one. Why waste something as valuable as an antinuke? Perhaps the majority of scum remaining are nuke immune. Three have been hit and killed by nukes already. If there really is a zombie faction within the scum then it's very likely the rest of them are nuke immune. Which brings me back to WHY ARE WE NUKING KITA WHEN WE LYNCH HIM AND HE'S STONE COLD DEAD. So why should scum bait another nuke at Kita? 1. Waste a townie's nuke OR help someone gain town cred. 2. IT ALLOWS KITA TO RETALIATE NUKE. This is what I firmly believe. Kita is essentially dead. If he survives this nuke he dies to lynch. They are trying to maximize his value. He gets to fire another missile before he dies. Navillus is confirmed Town now IMO. I guarantee you Kita is going to fire back at him. If someone else nukes Kita then he gets to retaliate yet again. Mig if you are sure Kita is scum why are we not lynching him with fire? Why are we throwing more nukes at him when he is very probably nuke immune? Why give him the chance to retaliate? I understand the antimissile point but so many of you are nuke immune/can eat multiple nukes that the lynch is the only method I fully trust now. That anti is very likely not worth much to scum and just used to cause even more confusion/diversion. I said this on day 1. WE HAVE THE LYNCH. LET'S NOT GET SO FOCUSED ON MISSILES WE FORGET THAT. The lynch is FINAL. NUKES can be affected by abilities. If Kita nukes back and Nav flips green you just went from almost certainly Town to blaring alarm in my eyes Mig since you were the one pushing for him to get nuked. You're also now asking people to nuke TAA. DO YOU REALLY WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO RETALIATE? Look at him he's trying to fucking bait a nuke already after being so ready to nuke himself earlier. How convenient that you want other people to nuke him but you can't be the one to fire it. Kita and TAA are prime lynch candidates right now, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO NUKE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO RETALIATE? They are dead in the water. TAA raises really good points about GM. Don't clear GM based on his nameclaim/"actions." HE DID NOT SAVE MATAZA. He claimed to have saved Mataza but no antimissile was actually fired. On July 12 2011 00:02 GMarshal wrote: Thats it. Doomsday time. ##Activate: Fall Blau See you all in hell. Fall Blau is GERMAN. If you are really Town why the fuck are you trying to make people think you're scum? If you were scum that is such an obvious godamn slip. IF YOU ARE TOWN STOP PULLING THIS LYING SHIT, YOU ARE NOT HELPING. I'm convinced there's one red between TAA and GM. If Kita retaliates and Nav flips green, I'm inclined to believe it's TAA and Mig is his buddy. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
And yes he could be nuke immune but if he was immune do you think he would be arguing so strongly against having a townie nuke him? And seriously how likely is it for a scum to just have 3 lives? He claimed 3 lives before because he was british + vet. So would him having 3 lives prove he is innocent? No. But it would make him look better. I am trying to give us the maximum amount of information possible to make the correct decision on who we should lynch. I mean come on now people. And yes clearly if kita survives this next nuke we lynch him. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On July 12 2011 06:24 Mig wrote: Right I do think he is scum. I have posted my analysis of why he is scum multiple times. And yes he could be nuke immune but if he was immune do you think he would be arguing so strongly against having a townie nuke him? And seriously how likely is it for a scum to just have 3 lives? He claimed 3 lives before because he was british + vet. So would him having 3 lives prove he is innocent? No. But it would make him look better. I am trying to give us the maximum amount of information possible to make the correct decision on who we should lynch. I mean come on now people. And yes clearly if kita survives this next nuke we lynch him. Nuking Kita allows him to fire another nuke of his own. Nuking him if you are sure he is scum when there's even a chance he might survive is just letting him take another Townie down with him. Instead of dying quietly to the lynch he now has caused another Townie nuke wasted AND he gets to nuke that Townie back. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On July 12 2011 06:27 Drazerk wrote: No I agree with Curu on this one, Retaliation nukes are a pain to deal with. When I was campaigning against nukes in day 1 i said that all mafia / conspirators will nuke the moment they are going to be lynched / nuked with the retaliation mechanic this becomes a lot easier and we lose more townies. Wrong name because I fail | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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