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Final thoughts:
Kita is 100% scum. No doubt in my mind.
I'm leaning towards Mig being scum but I'm not completely sold. I might be completely wrong in my analysis. I lean a lot more heavily if Nav is retaliated against and flips green.
One of TAA and GM is scum. If Nav flips green and Mig is red then it's 100% TAA. If not GM's actions have been a lot more scummy. Complain about stupid townies then lie 5 million times while letting slip a German operation?
Coag says he can confirm himself in the day post. I'm inclined to believe him unless this is false.
Drazerk I'm leaning Town but your constant nameclaim confusion doesn't help Town either. Once I can understand in showing the perils of nameclaim reliance but three times? I'm still leaning towards Town though.
Nav I'm sure is Town. I also think he's dead now.
I just realized how far under my radar dec and prplhz are. Will analyze them soon.
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United States4714 Posts
Curu the retaliation nuke is actually a great point I hadn't considered. But there were what only 3/4 people who hadn't fired nukes yet do you think they would spend an anti nuke just in the hopes one of the last couple people fired at kita again?
Basically I had it in my head that Kita/TAA are both scum. They know that if kita dies to the nuke then TAA will be lynched next and they lose 2 players today. And like GM said kita may have a powerful role they need during the night. They could have used the anti nukes to save wiggles or jeejee or kurumi but didn't. There must be some reason they saved Kita.
And really curu you are suspicious of me? Really so I suppose today while 0 mafia were dead I just got it in my head to bus the entire mafia team is that right? And not to mention how on day 1 I saved YM (town) and killed Palmar (conspirator). I really shouldn't have to argue my innocence at this point.
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On July 12 2011 06:36 Curu wrote:
Drazerk I'm leaning Town but your constant nameclaim confusion doesn't help Town either. Once I can understand in showing the perils of nameclaim reliance but three times? I'm still leaning towards Town though.
I just realized how far under my radar dec and prplhz are. Will analyze them soon.
Name claim was part of my old role before Caller made a huge mess of it and changed it to the most overpowered ability in the game ( I have pretty much beaten conspirators with the ability )
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United States4714 Posts
On July 10 2011 10:30 Mig wrote:
Oh great we can nuke without radiation. I am going to nuke either kurumi/kita/wiggles. Haven't quite decided yet.
I guess even tho nobody at all besides me was accusing kita or kurumi. I just decided it would be a good idea to bus the entire team. I mean I fucking shot kurumi, redirected the nuke into kita and called out wiggles as being my third most suspicious person. And I am by far the most active person in analyzing and discussing ideas.
And you really still think I am scum. Amazing.
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On July 12 2011 06:36 Mig wrote:
Curu the retaliation nuke is actually a great point I hadn't considered. But there were what only 3/4 people who hadn't fired nukes yet do you think they would spend an anti nuke just in the hopes one of the last couple people fired at kita again?
Basically I had it in my head that Kita/TAA are both scum. They know that if kita dies to the nuke then TAA will be lynched next and they lose 2 players today. And like GM said kita may have a powerful role they need during the night. They could have used the anti nukes to save wiggles or jeejee or kurumi but didn't. There must be some reason they saved Kita.
And really curu you are suspicious of me? Really so I suppose today while 0 mafia were dead I just got it in my head to bus the entire mafia team is that right? And not to mention how on day 1 I saved YM (town) and killed Palmar (conspirator). I really shouldn't have to argue my innocence at this point.
YM died anyways. Killing Palmar with a nuke allowed sandroba to get lynched (which I really wanted to happen, btw, but he flipped green) since Palmar was the leading lynch candidate until he died. I don't like this being the only thing that shows your innocence.
GM and TAA both seem to exhibit some sort of nuke resistance. GM has survived one and so has TAA. So has Kita. I'm inclined to believe much of the remaining scum team has nuke resistance especially since three have already died that didn't. If I am right then that antimissile was worthless anyways.
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United States4714 Posts
You ask why I am trying to nuke instead of lynch. I am trying to kill the mafia as fast as possible because A) I expect almost guaranteed to die tonight B) the faster we kill the mafia the better because they can still kill at night.
You can't just assume the entire mafia team is nuke immune. Just like we had a campaign giving british extra lives. Their campaign could have done the same for some of them or some of them could have been veterans. I am not just going to assume half the scum team has 5 lives or is nuke immune.
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On July 12 2011 06:41 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 10:30 Mig wrote:
Oh great we can nuke without radiation. I am going to nuke either kurumi/kita/wiggles. Haven't quite decided yet. I guess even tho nobody at all besides me was accusing kita or kurumi. I just decided it would be a good idea to bus the entire team. I mean I fucking shot kurumi, redirected the nuke into kita and called out wiggles as being my third most suspicious person. And I am by far the most active person in analyzing and discussing ideas. And you really still think I am scum. Amazing.
I said I'm leaning towards scum. You have done quite a bit for Town but like I have been saying letting one scum slip into confirmed Town status at lylo is loss. I am not confirming you that easily.
I won't tunnel in my own analysis (it's been wrong once re sandroba) but if Nav flips green what I proposed makes a lot more sense to me.
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Well I won't bother arguing my innocence when it should be unbelievably obvious and I am probably going to die tonight anyway.
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Hey Curu,
![[image loading]](http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lagzf9t8uM1qbuah4o1_400.jpg)
Im thinking your overestimating the survivability of the mafia a bit, Kita got rescued for a reason, namely that he would have died if that nuke landed.
Youre taking your retaliation thought a bit too far imo, since antis are a very precious resource. Also Kita is getting lynched, no way that they would anti in the hope some other townie will nuke him, its just not going to happen.
While I agree that if i was mafia and would like to kamikaze out id need another nuke so i can retaliate, but i have 0 nukes left and am not leading the lynch, so kamikaziing would make no sense whatsoever. Other than that good thinking. Oh and except for this ofc:
On July 12 2011 06:41 Curu wrote:
I'm inclined to believe much of the remaining scum team has nuke resistance especially since three have already died that didn't.
That makes no sense at all, since every scum weve hit so far didnt do X and the other scum were hunting atm is being shielded from X the rest of the scum probably does X all the time. If there has been a pattern in nuke behaviour it is that they are dropping to nukes by the dozen. Maybe their GF has 2 lives or there is a scum veteran, but i dont think that presuming every mafia is nuke immune (incredibly and obviously op, dont make 'caller game' comments on this one) will get us Anywhere.
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also accusing MiG is just... lol
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I'm honestly confused about who to vote for but after hitting 2 scum last night I don't think we're gonna be a lylo soon so it's not imperative that we hit scum and I don't think that there are any clear reads on scum right now. What about gtrstsr, he hasn't been around whole game because his house burned down. If this is true, why hasn't he been modkilled or replaced? It just looks like an excuse to me to lurk and I don't like that one bit no matter if he is scum or town.
What do you guys think about gstrsr?
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Oh wait this just occurred to me
What happens if a nuke lands on and kills someone to end the day, and that person also has the most lynch votes?
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second guy gets lynched, happened day1 as well
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
I'm starting to get bored of being an Ocean so I guess its time for my true claim.
![[image loading]](http://www.internationaleducationmedia.com/ukraine/gallery/ukraine_2.jpg)
You are Ukraine.
You are a mighty power that shall crush all that oppose you. You have over 9000 nukes and anti-nukes. You are immune to all nukes and lynches and cannot lose the game.
(P.S. That means you guys can't kill me)
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On July 12 2011 02:47 Caller wrote:
The nuke at Kitaman27 has been shot down!
The nuke aimed at TheAwesomeAll has exploded... but no effect?
some more missiles arriving in some time. Lynch will happen then... if ever.
Hmm, I wonder where my Ciryandor nuke disappeared to.
On July 12 2011 04:34 Navillus wrote:
kk, well I promised heist that I wouldn't vote Kita, not that I wouldn't nuke him, so
##Nuke Kitaman27
##Vote TheAwesomeAll
Aww how cute. At least I get to add another nuke to my collection and take out a scum in the process!
##Nuke Navillus
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On July 12 2011 07:28 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 02:47 Caller wrote:
The nuke at Kitaman27 has been shot down!
The nuke aimed at TheAwesomeAll has exploded... but no effect?
some more missiles arriving in some time. Lynch will happen then... if ever. Hmm, I wonder where my Ciryandor nuke disappeared to. Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 04:34 Navillus wrote:
kk, well I promised heist that I wouldn't vote Kita, not that I wouldn't nuke him, so
##Nuke Kitaman27
##Vote TheAwesomeAll Aww how cute. At least I get to add another nuke to my collection and take out a scum in the process! ##Nuke Navillus
Well there is the retaliation nuke we was talking about.
>.>
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
ok we have confirmed scum who will probably die by lynch time, shall we lynch TAA then?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On July 12 2011 05:26 Coagulation wrote:
So yeah Kita is looking pretty scummy now.
Who is gonna waste an anti missle on Kita if he was actually town. Mafia wouldnt waste it on him cause hes damn near lynched anyway if he was town. Theres 0 chance a town aligned player would save him in this situation and then not tell town first or at least acknowledge it.
kita is either scum. or the townies in this game have gone to a whole new level of bad never before seen in mafia gaming history..
lol.
"Mafia wouldnt waste it on him cause hes damn near lynched anyway if he was town. "
How about Mafia wouldn't waste it on me because I'm lynched anyway if I'm scum. Someone obviously just shot it down to draw more attention to me. If I'm not nuke immune, how did I survive the first one without an anti-nuke?
I have to admit, I'm having a really tough time guessing what your alternate win condition is though.
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United States4714 Posts
Yea my bad for asking for kita to be nuked bleh.
Ok so if kita dies to nuke lynch TAA if he survives lynch kita. Easy enough.
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