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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
July 01 2011 14:51 GMT
#81
Sorry about that, but i'll take the heat. I'm townie.
Whaaaa?
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 01 2011 15:44 GMT
#82
On July 01 2011 21:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:39 deconduo wrote:
Oh and vig shouldn't shoot tonight, for obvious reasons

Scummiest post in thread so far btw.


Well vigi shouldn't necessarily shoot N0. Here's my thinking, correct me if I'm wrong.

Right now we have 5 DT claims and 4 Town/vigi claims. That means that there is a mafia in each group, as expected (assuming a townie didn't lie - they have no reason to). A general strategy would be for town to keep our DTs alive and checking as long as possible, so the greater our chance that the sane DTs can figure out who they are. This means that we should go after the mafia claiming town first.

If we were to randomly pick a person out of a hat, we'd have a 1 in 4 chance of lynching the mafia. However, the Vigi has a 1 in 3 chance of lynching that mafia. The more people in the claimed town group that die, the greater the chances of picking the mafia become, so it really doesn't make sense for mafia to shoot a town (but it works out better for town if they do). Additionally, the longer the Vigi stays alive, the better his chance of shooting the mafia become (since he has one additional piece of information that no one else has: the fact that he knows who he is). The only danger is that town might accidentally lynch him, and if they do he loses his shot.

Here's where my solution come in, town should decide during the night who they are going to lynch tomorrow. The vigi can then see oh shit I guess I'm going to end up dead, so I'd better take my chances tonight and shoot someone. If town happens to target someone who isn't him, he can just hold his shot for another night knowing that he is safe to do so. Furthermore, seeing a shot go off is basically a way for town to know that the guy we had decided to randomly kill was town aligned so the next day we can just kill someone else. And if we don't see the shot go off, we just go ahead with the lynch as planned.

The best part is that there really isn't anything mafia can do to stop us. Any thoughts?
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 01 2011 15:49 GMT
#83
On July 01 2011 21:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:39 deconduo wrote:
Oh and vig shouldn't shoot tonight, for obvious reasons

Scummiest post in thread so far btw.


I also want to point out the irony in this post by RoL...
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 01 2011 15:57 GMT
#84
I vote to lynch Deconduo and have all the DT's check him tonight.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 01 2011 16:01 GMT
#85
On July 01 2011 13:28 sinani206 wrote:
1. deconduo
2. sinani206
3. RebirthOfLeGenD
4. VisceraEyes
5. Sandroba
6. Pyo
7. supersoft
8. nard
9. Misder

Updated.
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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 01 2011 16:06 GMT
#86
On July 02 2011 00:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I vote to lynch Deconduo and have all the DT's check him tonight.


Is there some inside joke I'm not getting here? If we're going to decide night 0 who to vote for, it should be a claimed VT. If we're just going to vote for a DT, you might as well wait till day 1. Additionally, there isn't much point in DT checking someone who you want to die, but frankly night 0 it really doesn't matter who you check, but it is important that DT's spread their checks so they aren't affected by the framer.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 01 2011 16:09 GMT
#87
RoL gets a warning. No more editing this game, next person will be modkilled.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 01 2011 16:59 GMT
#88
On July 02 2011 00:49 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 21:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On July 01 2011 21:39 deconduo wrote:
Oh and vig shouldn't shoot tonight, for obvious reasons

Scummiest post in thread so far btw.


I also want to point out the irony in this post by RoL...

Irony in this post and in the one above.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 01 2011 16:59 GMT
#89
HOLY SHIT ITS MY TL BIRTHDAY
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
July 01 2011 17:11 GMT
#90
Pyo, I hope you know this, but big can't shoot n0. Stop bringing that possibility up.
Also, don't like deconduo's plan. Scum can easily plan frames and fakeresults. I rather have dts check someone random to avoid any planning fromscum.
Whaaaa?
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 01 2011 17:16 GMT
#91
O.o
My bad. Well I guess that means there's nothing for VTs to do tonight... yawn.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#92
On July 02 2011 00:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I vote to lynch Deconduo and have all the DT's check him tonight.

Okay, RoL is mafia. You sugest something like this with a framer present in the setup? You know better than this. DTs should follow sinani's plan so hopefully we can get at least one (maybe 2) confirmed sanity.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 01 2011 20:26 GMT
#93
And by sinani I mean decon's plan of DTs checking the DTs bellow them.
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 01 2011 20:31 GMT
#94
On July 02 2011 05:26 sandroba wrote:
And by sinani I mean decon's plan of DTs checking the DTs bellow them.


But why would a sane DT report that he's sane? And if DTs can't report why does it matter who they actually check? If mafia know that DT's are only checking other DT's, that just makes it more likely that the framer will succeed.

DT's should just check whomever they feel like.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 01 2011 20:35 GMT
#95
On July 02 2011 05:31 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 05:26 sandroba wrote:
And by sinani I mean decon's plan of DTs checking the DTs bellow them.


But why would a sane DT report that he's sane? And if DTs can't report why does it matter who they actually check? If mafia know that DT's are only checking other DT's, that just makes it more likely that the framer will succeed.

DT's should just check whomever they feel like.


Yeah the more I think about it the less likely that plan is to work. Everyone checking someone random is the best idea, for night 0 anyway. Ideally there will a time where all of us can post our results together. This would be the best case scenario which would stop the mafia DT from choosing their result accordingly.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 01 2011 21:05 GMT
#96
I can dig checking at random too. I was thinking along the lines of confirming you sanity to yourself and hiding your inocent results till later. Like if you get an inocent check just say you check someone else and he's scum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 01 2011 21:08 GMT
#97
Okay maybe not... Mafia can't kill the DT who got an inocent check without giving us a confirmed inocent.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 01 2011 21:08 GMT
#98
On July 02 2011 01:09 iGrok wrote:
RoL gets a warning. No more editing this game, next person will be modkilled.

Yeah, sorry about that. I was trying to edit and copy what was written and accidentally clicked submit thinking I quoted.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 01 2011 21:58 GMT
#99
i will check a random player. Best way to avoid the framing etc.

Does our plan also include posting the result of the check?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 01 2011 22:17 GMT
#100
Okay, I'm just thinking out-loud. Anyone who desires can chime in and tell me I'm wrong about any of this. But don't call me scum because of it, a-hole! This is all speculation and conjecture.

For d1, dts check at random; lynch based on performance in-thread.

d2 we'll have red checks back (for certain), but it's not assured that the valid dts will get red checks. Therefor, we'll have at least 1 or 2 confirmed townies AND confirmed Sane DTs.

....and then....bleh. I don't know what to do with that information because logically we can't do anything with it without giving information to mafia.

Oh, also...FoS RoL for attempting to confuse town. SCUUUUUUUUM!!!! If we lynch Decon, no one has to check him because he'll flip. Was that some kind of joke? It wasn't funny sir!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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