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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2011 22:12 GMT
#801
On July 03 2011 07:08 Palmar wrote:
Btw, Sandroba and LSB are scum

We just make LSB mimic Caller's action on jonn,deal?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 02 2011 22:20 GMT
#802
So yeah

Sandroba is scum

He's basically FoS'd a grand total of one person who was in my opinion pretty much obvious town. He hasn't done anything interesting all game.

##Unvote
##Vote Sandroba


You guys should totally help me lynch him.

LSB is scum too. If there is one more I'm not sure who it is.
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2011 22:29 GMT
#803
On July 03 2011 07:20 Palmar wrote:
So yeah

Sandroba is scum

He's basically FoS'd a grand total of one person who was in my opinion pretty much obvious town. He hasn't done anything interesting all game.

##Unvote
##Vote Sandroba


You guys should totally help me lynch him.

LSB is scum too. If there is one more I'm not sure who it is.

What about Amber lol?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 02 2011 22:47 GMT
#804
screw amber, let's kill sandroba.
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2011 22:53 GMT
#805
On July 03 2011 07:47 Palmar wrote:
screw amber, let's kill sandroba.

Why? I already thought Hesmyrr and You were scum and I am thinking that You,Amber and Caller are the remaining mafia. Do something man!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 02 2011 23:35 GMT
#806
nah, I'm not scum.

you can hang me if you like, no one will die the following night.

I read back to day one and day two a bit, this game has been such a ton of shit that it's kind of hard to actually get anything useful out of the thread, but I'll try to point out the links.

BTW, I'm working under the assumption RoL was definitely mafia, which I think we can almost all agree on now.
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2011 23:36 GMT
#807
On July 03 2011 08:35 Palmar wrote:
nah, I'm not scum.

you can hang me if you like, no one will die the following night.

I read back to day one and day two a bit, this game has been such a ton of shit that it's kind of hard to actually get anything useful out of the thread, but I'll try to point out the links.

BTW, I'm working under the assumption RoL was definitely mafia, which I think we can almost all agree on now.

That's why LSB is cleared >_>
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
July 02 2011 23:37 GMT
#808
On July 02 2011 22:56 LSB wrote:
I claim Jack of All Trades
Caller is lying

Night 0
I Protected BC, trying to see if someone would snipe him. Nothing happened

Night 1
I used a Mimic Action on RoL. Mimic allows me to target a player and mimic whatever action they did the previous night.

I found out from Ace that if I mimiced a mafia, I would mimic the mafia kill action in addition to any night actions.
So what I did was Mimic Rol to himself. If Rol was mafia he'd shoot himself. If he wasn't, he wouldn't. It was a free role check + vig hit.

What happened was that I mimiced Rol trying to shoot someone, and also I mimiced Rol trying to investigate a dead body.

This proves that RoL was the Mafia Coronor

My two ways of verifying this claim is in thread is
1) I claim that I shot Rol Night 1, no one else has claimed the shot.
2) I breadcrumbed Rol's coroner claim in case he would have tried to use it. + Show Spoiler +
On June 30 2011 23:13 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote:
Oh also,I am up for killing any fucking Coroner who shows up tomorrow. You can go to hell. The probability You're Scum Coroner are as high as Sea Towers in Gdynia.

I support this, for my own reasons.

Oh and ##Vote: RebirthofLegend


Night 2
Because Caller said that he was going to shoot BC, I decided to use my Watch action on BC.

Guess what I saw? Only one person visited BC last night, and that was Caller.
##Vote: Caller

I'm going to confirm this claim to be true. LSB is not scum, nor am I. The plan I had today since we lynched RoL, was to check his dead body to confirm if Fishball was actually Cop or not, thus confirming him and myself as town. However, my plan wasn't really necessary as it seems like someone could reveal roles on Day posts, and I also did not expect THREE kills.

I am the Forensic Scientist, basically I can check the roles of dead people. Why am I so sure LSB isn't lying? Because he said he mimic'd RoL checking a dead body. I had investigated deconduo's body and he revealed to be a Vigilante. I also found out on that same check that Scamp's body was missing. RoL's dead body check returned as Mafia Janitor and not mafia Coroner. I was confused as to why Scamp's body was missing, but if my speculations are correct, RoL's role can clean up dead bodies therefore not allowing people like me to check them. I also checked GGQ on Night 0, he returned Busy Paramedic and town aligned. The only people I haven't checked are GMarshal, and Scamp. But I know there are more coroner's left.

Caller has kept on saying Fishball and BC are scum, and then they died. Obviously he is trying to justify his kills just by repeatedly saying they are scum and he was certain since it's no flip that he'll be safe. But as we can see Fish and BC didn't flip scum. My vote is going to be on Caller today.

##Vote: Caller
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2011 23:40 GMT
#809
Thanks jonn,another claim I am going to believe,Amber and Caller are scum.
##unvote Amber[LighT]
##Vote Caller
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2011 23:41 GMT
#810
Well I wonder who I should protect this night.. citi.zen is the most important guy,so let be it.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
July 02 2011 23:44 GMT
#811
I honestly have no clue where all the KP is coming from, but I really don't think it's from vigilantes. What I know for sure is that Caller has been claiming A LOT of shots and I still haven't found any shot landing on scum besides our LYNCH of RoL. We need to get rid of this guy's anti-town KP. He is definitely scum. What has his justifications been for all his shots? He's mfing Caller and he does what he wants and he shoots whoever he thinks is scum (coincidentally none have hit scum). This isn't how to play town, this is how to play scum.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 02 2011 23:45 GMT
#812
##Vote Sandroba

Don't be a rebellious people. Follow the Emperor!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 02 2011 23:49 GMT
#813
On June 25 2011 19:04 sandroba wrote:
I've thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that mafia's optimal strat is going to be defending their team without fear, since no flips mean they keep hidden even after a scum lynch.


Only reason I have a problem with this is that it feels kinda un-sandrobalike.

He's smarter than this.

Oh, and he's been very careful with his fingerpointing, something that starkly contrasts his townplay, which I normally think is both aggressive and accurate.

And extra suspiciously (to me at least) he was pointing fingers at someone I thought at the time, and we now know, was town.

Here's a little piece Fishball wrote on him day 1.


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 28 2011 14:51 Fishball wrote:
I normally don't like wasting my time picking out other player's post, but this is just getting ridiculous.

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 14:08 sandroba wrote:
I actually think you guys are missing the point on LSB post to be honest, cuz I can see a really pro-town outcome if you read between the lines.


Blanket statement with no content. Me and BC at least explained our arguments. What you're literally saying is, "John Doe is a nice guy, just look between his legs".

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 14:08 sandroba wrote:
Chaoser is my number one suspect for the moment, I call him out on lurking then he pops up and posts a ranking list with no explanation. Seriously?


I wonder how many times I've seen this. Regardless of what Chaoser's alignment and the content of his posts, your accusations alone does not make a strong case. Accuse a random lurker, lurker pops out and posts something, therefore said lurker is scum!

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 14:08 sandroba wrote:
@Deconduo What do you think about chaoser? Is he town that needs to die or scum?


"Is he town that needs to die or scum?" What kind of shit question is this? "Town that needs to die?" What, are you deconduo Junior?! Does the consensus shows a strong town read on deconduo? No. Then why are you asking deconduo specifically? What do YOU think of Chaoser besides the so called reason listed above?

To summarize, your post is a filler post, with little to no content, faking activity and discussion with an agenda that does not help Town at all. Normally, I would just disregard these posts, assuming the players were just bad, but since this is an invitational game, I'm curious about your alignment.



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 11:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Just so there are no misconceptions Fishball, my post regarding what I perceive as lunacy from decon is in no way shape or form a defense of you. For all I know right now you're as scummy as they get.


And back to Jackal while I'm at it. Like I said, I never named names. Those who defended me have made it obvious. Regardless, you also think I'm scummy - "as scummy as they get" that is. Alright, cool. Do you have a case about it? No? Another blanket statement?

Is this the so called contribution and activity everyone was yearning for? I call this crap.


Here is a comment from RoL's "analysis" of the game day 1.

Sandroba- Posting nothing, supports LSB? Odd. Actually defends himself fairly well to fishballs accusations. Going in the gray area.


I just don't like it, because if you think he actually defended himself, why is he not in the "town" part, and if he didn't, he should be in the "scum" part.

Sounds to me like scum trying to be neutral about their partners.

But yeah.

The main reason for this thing is just that I don't feel sandroba is playing his town game, looks much more like some scumgame.

He kind of FoS'd caller after caller's claim. I'm not sure what to make of it.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure Sandroba is scum





Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 02 2011 23:53 GMT
#814
oh wow, ton of shit while this went through

So, do we gamble on LSB, Radfield and ILJ?

fuck it, yes, let's do that.

##Unvote Sandroba
##Vote Caller
Computer says mafia
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 02 2011 23:55 GMT
#815
Need two votes guys,town it up!
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 02 2011 23:57 GMT
#816
On July 03 2011 08:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 19:04 sandroba wrote:
I've thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that mafia's optimal strat is going to be defending their team without fear, since no flips mean they keep hidden even after a scum lynch.


Only reason I have a problem with this is that it feels kinda un-sandrobalike.

He's smarter than this.

Oh, and he's been very careful with his fingerpointing, something that starkly contrasts his townplay, which I normally think is both aggressive and accurate.

And extra suspiciously (to me at least) he was pointing fingers at someone I thought at the time, and we now know, was town.

Here's a little piece Fishball wrote on him day 1.


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 28 2011 14:51 Fishball wrote:
I normally don't like wasting my time picking out other player's post, but this is just getting ridiculous.

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 14:08 sandroba wrote:
I actually think you guys are missing the point on LSB post to be honest, cuz I can see a really pro-town outcome if you read between the lines.


Blanket statement with no content. Me and BC at least explained our arguments. What you're literally saying is, "John Doe is a nice guy, just look between his legs".

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 14:08 sandroba wrote:
Chaoser is my number one suspect for the moment, I call him out on lurking then he pops up and posts a ranking list with no explanation. Seriously?


I wonder how many times I've seen this. Regardless of what Chaoser's alignment and the content of his posts, your accusations alone does not make a strong case. Accuse a random lurker, lurker pops out and posts something, therefore said lurker is scum!

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 14:08 sandroba wrote:
@Deconduo What do you think about chaoser? Is he town that needs to die or scum?


"Is he town that needs to die or scum?" What kind of shit question is this? "Town that needs to die?" What, are you deconduo Junior?! Does the consensus shows a strong town read on deconduo? No. Then why are you asking deconduo specifically? What do YOU think of Chaoser besides the so called reason listed above?

To summarize, your post is a filler post, with little to no content, faking activity and discussion with an agenda that does not help Town at all. Normally, I would just disregard these posts, assuming the players were just bad, but since this is an invitational game, I'm curious about your alignment.



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 11:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Just so there are no misconceptions Fishball, my post regarding what I perceive as lunacy from decon is in no way shape or form a defense of you. For all I know right now you're as scummy as they get.


And back to Jackal while I'm at it. Like I said, I never named names. Those who defended me have made it obvious. Regardless, you also think I'm scummy - "as scummy as they get" that is. Alright, cool. Do you have a case about it? No? Another blanket statement?

Is this the so called contribution and activity everyone was yearning for? I call this crap.


Here is a comment from RoL's "analysis" of the game day 1.

Show nested quote +
Sandroba- Posting nothing, supports LSB? Odd. Actually defends himself fairly well to fishballs accusations. Going in the gray area.


I just don't like it, because if you think he actually defended himself, why is he not in the "town" part, and if he didn't, he should be in the "scum" part.

Sounds to me like scum trying to be neutral about their partners.

But yeah.

The main reason for this thing is just that I don't feel sandroba is playing his town game, looks much more like some scumgame.

He kind of FoS'd caller after caller's claim. I'm not sure what to make of it.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure Sandroba is scum







Though you're right about Sandroba from an analytics perspective I don't think he's scum. I thought the same thing all game, but his FoSing has been limited. Just because he's pointing the finger less doesn't mean he's necessarily more scummy...

Think about the games where he has been a strong FoSer vs this game.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
July 02 2011 23:58 GMT
#817
Come on town, we have to vote together. =/
You've all seen Caller's game, we can take down mafia 1 by 1, no need to create more targets than we need. FoS on people not voting Caller and thus trying to break town focus and cause a no-lynch!
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 03 2011 00:00 GMT
#818
On July 03 2011 08:58 ilovejonn wrote:
Come on town, we have to vote together. =/
You've all seen Caller's game, we can take down mafia 1 by 1, no need to create more targets than we need. FoS on people not voting Caller and thus trying to break town focus and cause a no-lynch!


Be patient there's more to winning than just voting for the sake of voting quickly.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 03 2011 00:01 GMT
#819
On July 03 2011 09:00 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 08:58 ilovejonn wrote:
Come on town, we have to vote together. =/
You've all seen Caller's game, we can take down mafia 1 by 1, no need to create more targets than we need. FoS on people not voting Caller and thus trying to break town focus and cause a no-lynch!


Be patient there's more to winning than just voting for the sake of voting quickly.

no u
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#820
##Unvote Sandroba
##Vote Jackal58
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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