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On June 19 2011 06:30 aprudds wrote: Hey Drazerk, inactives will get modkilled. I'm sure you learned that from last game. You also seem a bit too eager to change focus from freeloader.
I still have no idea what the case on freeloader is despite passing by the last game and then making an Awful post in this one
The Vaati vote is purely there until a case is built on someone else
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Right I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point So im going to say this
Don't trust Gtrsrs (yes i know your on my side kinda ) when i flip Green, Which I will he will claim he knew it and try to abuse that town cred for his own good later in the game
He's no where near as ruthless as the last game he's Either a power role trying to stay back or Scum
Also Alderan is still lurking so be careful
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If for what ever reason you decide not to kill me and waste a townie ...
##Unvote: Lord Vatti
##Vote: gtrsrs
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On June 19 2011 23:18 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote: Now lets assume we all vote to lynch Drazerk. At the very least he'll start posting frantically and we all gain something. This is what you wanted right? Yet you seems so fast to defend him. If he flips green we made the wrong choice but at least we have effectively increased our chance to lynch red by having a list of potential suspects based on voting patterns and bandwagon jumpers. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT THIS LIST? Why try so hard to prevent it before it even starts? That is of course unless you already know hes red and want to stop a red lynch before it goes further. You wanted people to talk early game for “information” by pressuring and now you try to shy town away from that very same tactic of pressure and play passive. I just don't get it. Only logic left is protecting buddy scum from getting any more pressure and before he scum slips.
This is bad reasoning. Mafia have no reason to go along with a voting bandwagon on day 1 unless by random circumstance one of their own get targeted, in which case they might drive a bandwagon against someone else. Notice how not a single mafia voted for freeloader day 1 in the last game? If anything mafia will do their best to lay low day 1 voting for nobody in particular unless they can't undo a random bandwagon on one of their own. If that happens they'll probably end up bussing him. My point here is that regardless of who ends up getting lynched today, even if they flip green, those that voted for that person doesn't necessarily include mafia.
Infact I see it as more the people that DON'T vote for me as more mafia as they know ill Flip green as so let town do their dirty work
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People are going to lynch me for how much my posting habits change regardless I am now going to try and help you as much as possible as I know the situation you will be in after the lynch
Also im a idiot I have established this throughout this game
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On June 20 2011 02:58 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 22:11 Drazerk wrote: Right I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point So im going to say this
Don't trust Gtrsrs (yes i know your on my side kinda ) when i flip Green, Which I will he will claim he knew it and try to abuse that town cred for his own good later in the game
He's no where near as ruthless as the last game he's Either a power role trying to stay back or Scum
Also Alderan is still lurking so be careful Are we letting this post slide? Drazerk is in serious danger of getting lynched and this is his defense? I'm not ready to switch my vote just yet (obviously I will switch before a modkill, just sifting through the mindless drivel), as you just seem like a disinterested green but you have got to provide more than "well maybe grstrs is scummy, and maybe Alderan is scummy". That being said I'm looking for a response. Give us some analysis on freeloader's grstrs post, for gods sake give us something to keep us from wasting a lynch on you if you are indeed town. This is a general statement but please town do not go down without a fight if we are about to miss lynch. It happens every game a couple of times and it is one of the most frustrating things that can happen, aside from Mod Kills. Happy Father's Day kids, I have some stuff with my dad this afternoon, should be back before the vote no problem though.
At that point in the game i did not see me actually surviving the day so i wanted to give my suspicions before I died knowing the towns predicament after i died
Im no where near a useful player but ill keep the game going where i Can
As for you
You have been lurking most of the game
Your Two posts Countered One another out while you basically just bandwagoned a player who we was only voting to spark a reaction
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On June 20 2011 02:58 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 22:11 Drazerk wrote: Right I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point So im going to say this
Don't trust Gtrsrs (yes i know your on my side kinda ) when i flip Green, Which I will he will claim he knew it and try to abuse that town cred for his own good later in the game
He's no where near as ruthless as the last game he's Either a power role trying to stay back or Scum
Also Alderan is still lurking so be careful Are we letting this post slide? Drazerk is in serious danger of getting lynched and this is his defense? I'm not ready to switch my vote just yet (obviously I will switch before a modkill, just sifting through the mindless drivel), as you just seem like a disinterested green but you have got to provide more than "well maybe grstrs is scummy, and maybe Alderan is scummy". That being said I'm looking for a response. Give us some analysis on freeloader's grstrs post, for gods sake give us something to keep us from wasting a lynch on you if you are indeed town. This is a general statement but please town do not go down without a fight if we are about to miss lynch. It happens every game a couple of times and it is one of the most frustrating things that can happen, aside from Mod Kills. Happy Father's Day kids, I have some stuff with my dad this afternoon, should be back before the vote no problem though.
Also i just want to point out
Did you see my defense last game when people was suspicious of me ?
I pretty much did the same thing going " yeah yeah i know im acting scummy just vote for me "
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On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote: okay it's getting to be crunch time
i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so.
Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk.
I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D.
##vote: Drazerk
I said you was mafia for defending me so now you attack me as I guessed your game Plan?
Jumping on the bandwagon yourself
Oh well when i flip green everyone will focus you
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On June 20 2011 03:40 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 03:37 Drazerk wrote:On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote: okay it's getting to be crunch time
i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so.
Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk.
I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D.
##vote: Drazerk I said you was mafia for defending me so now you attack me as I guessed your game Plan? Jumping on the bandwagon yourself Oh well when i flip green everyone will focus you if you live through the day i will cry
I didn't see myself living through the day hours ago,
Nothings changed
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On June 20 2011 03:55 gtrsrs wrote: okay well 6 votes on me is enough. i was going to wait til an hour before voting ended to do this but with lord vatti gone i will definitely lose this lynch if i don't act now
i am the town's medic. hopefully this should give you insight as to why i wanted to no-lynch today. i was hoping we'd have some outstanding townies show up that would make easy marks for the mafia, and i'd be able to protect one of them. it's kind of pathetic that you guys are forcing me to claim on day 1, your witch hunts are illogical and your inability to listen to reason is sad. in fact, for the sake of my blood pressure i'm glad i'll be dying tonight.
on the plus side, i think freeloader's bandwagon was enough to point out the likely mafia.
between these 4, i'm 100% sure that three are mafia: Drazerk Xedat Cjrninja aprudds
again i want to point out that i am claiming medic. i won't get a chance to use my powers since i will be dying tonight. but it is *imperative* that you lynch drazerk or xedat today instead of me. letting me die will put you at 9 townies tomorrow which is a HUGE set-back.
While before all your posts I believed you was a power role i no longer see this being the case
If you are the medic we will be able to get a list of suspects regardless
( yes yes ill include my own name in there )
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On June 20 2011 03:57 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 03:55 gtrsrs wrote: again i want to point out that i am claiming medic. i won't get a chance to use my powers since i will be dying tonight. but it is *imperative* that you lynch drazerk or xedat today instead of me. letting me die will put you at 9 townies tomorrow which is a HUGE set-back. sorry, 6* townies, 3 mafia. 9 villagers total. also since some of you will be skeptical of my claim: last game i was willing to die to get iGrok lynched. this game my play has changed (you have incorrectly labelled it as "passive" when really it's just more "conservative") but what's key to note is that i am NOT going to martyr myself to get Drazerk lynched. if you lynch me today you are gamethrowing, i'm NOT a vanilla townie whose life is expendable to get the GF lynched. you MUST lynch mafia today
You claim you was expendable the last game?
Well so was i and i was doing the exact same thing as i am now
Your no Townie but your no power role either
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On June 20 2011 04:03 gtrsrs wrote: if there are no counterclaims to medic and you vote me, you are gamethrowing, plain and simple.
Why the hell would anyone count claim?
That would be stupid and something you wish to do in order to discover our medic in order to take the game with your remaining Scum Buddies
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On June 20 2011 04:10 supersoft wrote: there won't be any counterclaims... If you're mafia, why should the real medic/DT counterclaim and give away his role, only to reinforce your lynch... That would be stupid pretty stupid... And if you are the real Medic and there isn't another powerrole, no one will counterclaim either. What's the votecount so far?
This is a very good point
Only mafia know what the possible game type is
Got a role blocker with your Scum Friends?
Or are you the roleblocker
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On June 20 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote: there's 6 on me 3 mafia 3 townies the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk
You keep saying that yet the only thing you have against me is my own idioticy and me changing my vote to you when I decided to Martyr
Im fine with me dying as i know you would die the day after where if you was medic you would not take that risk
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On June 20 2011 04:31 gtrsrs wrote:anyways we're running out of time here i think town will not see the light if there is a detective i highly recommend checking on Cjrninja instead of Xedat, aprudds, or Drazerk. i think when i flip medic it will be obvious that 2 of those 3 are mafia, and then it's just a question if the third is mafia or if cjrninja is the scum. also, don't listen to the bullshit that Drazerk and aprudds and xedat will likely spew. it will sound like this "he was playing so badly we had no choice but to lynch him yada yada yada" no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective. good luck y'all. i would point out who i think would be the viable town leader to listen to but i know whoever i point out will get killed tonight and i can't even protect them sorry. i would say i made a mistake this game but i honestly think my death is on freeloader's hands. mafia of course is going to rally onto someone else to take votes off their mafia. of course they're going to jump like vultures onto an easy kill. like i said earlier (which has been conveniently covered up by aprudds and drazerk spam), the fact that i wanted to go for Lord Vatti should have been enough to convince you i am town. my claim should have been unnecessary you're all geniuses, true gentlemen, and undoubtedly stallions in bed. that being said, your logic is a bit, just a TINY bit lacking. good day
When all else fails
Steal the other guys idea of martyring
And didn't we adress the fact that lynching a mod kill only helps mafia?
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What I don't understand that is that if gtrsrs is claiming medic why does he keep asking for DT checks when there is only a 50-50 chance of there actually being a DT
Surely by him being a medic he knows that the chance of a DT is unlikely
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On June 20 2011 04:56 GMarshal wrote: Votecount, Day 1 Drazek(2) PyoTreadmill aprudds Xedatgtrsrs Treadmill(0) supersoftLord Vatti(1) gtrsrsDrazerkAlderan supersoft(0) CjrNinjaAlderan(0) apruddsgtrsrs(6) freeloader625 Drazerk Xedat CjrNinja aprudds Pyo aprudds(2) omgCRAZY supersoft 1 hours and 4 minutes or so remain. gtrsrs leading the vote count with six votes. Lord Vatti is at risk of getting modkilled ;_;. If I miscounted/missed a vote please point it out.
Last moment treadmill swap
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##Unvote: gtrsrs ##Vote: aprudds
Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit
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ok im back
Right i was thinking in a day 2 mind set and then i started to wonder what if
Regardless of everything he's claimed he was the medic so if he does not die at night - He is scum regardless
We may as well have the POSSIBILITY of a save
In no way am i saying he is not scum
im just saying we will 100% know by day 2
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