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On June 20 2011 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Seriously, why is it when I vote for an inactive, its scummy, but when BC or node does it, they get no flack? No matter what I do, its scummy.
RoL: what changed your mind about me?
##vote syllogism
I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said.
I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace.
I had no issue with your voting for an inactive, I had issue with other bits of your posting. I honestly believe you phrased your post oddly with your GG vote. As a note for next time rather than giving statistics that make you look scummy, instead say you would prefer to policy lynch an inactive. It looks less horrid and is much more understood by most.
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The difference is that Node shows no activity on TL whatsoever, so it´s safe to assume he will be modkilled.
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On June 20 2011 05:35 LandenC wrote:
##Vote syllogism
stealth vote. Care to explain?
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Catching up on the thread and working on a post. Might have to head out for an hour or two so wanted to get my vote in incase i get tied up.
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Catching up (so you feel confortable voting syllo before you are caught up) while working on a post and spaming F5 to see the latest posts?
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FoS LandenC for actively lurking.
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Well, glad RoL returned to the game, I was hoping others like Node might do so, too. I'm going to vote for hiro, I provided my opinion on him earlier and thought Varpulis and aidnai's analyses were convincingly written. I don't see any better candidates, and maybe some of these inactive-lurkers will finally get modkilled or vigied this night.
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On June 20 2011 05:53 LandenC wrote:
Catching up on the thread and working on a post. Might have to head out for an hour or two so wanted to get my vote in incase i get tied up.
This is the exact type of behavior that fudgeM did on Day1 that really bothered me. Does anyone else feel that if you are still getting caught up but worried about missing the deadline you should vote for someone who isn't a major candidate until you are finally caught up? It feels scummy to me; how can you--Landen--feel comfortable potentially casting a deciding vote before you are up to date on events?
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On June 20 2011 05:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Seriously, why is it when I vote for an inactive, its scummy, but when BC or node does it, they get no flack? No matter what I do, its scummy.
RoL: what changed your mind about me?
##vote syllogism
I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said.
I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace. I had no issue with your voting for an inactive, I had issue with other bits of your posting. I honestly believe you phrased your post oddly with your GG vote. As a note for next time rather than giving statistics that make you look scummy, instead say you would prefer to policy lynch an inactive. It looks less horrid and is much more understood by most.
If I was scum, I would have justified my vote for grass by saying I agree with you, and I would not have given my opinion on anyone else.
I just wanted people to know what I was thinking. So I could easily be analyzed. I did not know it would look so scummy, so I am sorry for wording it bad. I will keep that in mind for next time.
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With the way the voting is progressing and the justifications people are using for voting me over hiro, I'm comfortable voting Hiro, not that the current situation leaves me other alternatives. I do not, however, think I should be vigied if Hiro gets lynched tonight instead of me and does not flip red. It should be discussed at the very least and that should only be the course of action if it is determined a lynch would otherwise be wasted on me.
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On June 20 2011 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Seriously, why is it when I vote for an inactive, its scummy, but when BC or node does it, they get no flack? No matter what I do, its scummy.
RoL: what changed your mind about me?
##vote syllogism
I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said.
I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace.
I never actually had an opinion about you.
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On June 20 2011 06:07 syllogism wrote:
With the way the voting is progressing and the justifications people are using for voting me over hiro, I'm comfortable voting Hiro, not that the current situation leaves me other alternatives. I do not, however, think I should be vigied if Hiro gets lynched tonight instead of me and does not flip red. It should be discussed at the very least and that should only be the course of action if it is determined a lynch would otherwise be wasted on me.
If we lynch green we should vigi the other one. If we vigi red we probably shouldn't vigi the other.
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On June 20 2011 06:53 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Seriously, why is it when I vote for an inactive, its scummy, but when BC or node does it, they get no flack? No matter what I do, its scummy.
RoL: what changed your mind about me?
##vote syllogism
I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said.
I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace. I never actually had an opinion about you.
On June 19 2011 06:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
There is no reason to release my scum list since we can only kill one person in the day. I will say this though, I have a strong town read on hiro protagonist.
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He already stated that his reason to think you´re town is invalid and he mentioned that someone(I think Opz) can confirm this.
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I read every post in this thread before voting so I meant catching up as in going over post history of syllogism and hiro again, re reading the important posts and preparing a post. The same way RoL said catching up here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230789¤tpage=35#687
Didn't see anyone jump on him for using that word. Ok now onto Syllogism:
+ Show Spoiler +Similar read as RoL maybe. We see that so far he has not listened to his own advice. + Show Spoiler +On June 15 2011 03:17 syllogism wrote:
The only plan the town needs is everyone contributing, relentless analysis and focus on the most suspicious players. As noted, this is a standard game, the mason mechanic aside, so there's no way to break the game. His vote on a town player that he made pretty easily and didn't want to move off it for a lurker. + Show Spoiler +On June 15 2011 21:26 syllogism wrote:
My vote will be on ilovejonn and will remain there unless a better suspect arises. It's a typical early day 1 case, but youngminii did outline valid points and his defence has so far been questionable.
On June 17 2011 07:08 syllogism wrote:
I won't be around for the deadline, so I'll rather leave my vote on ILJ than the random lurker. Then this: On June 19 2011 05:50 syllogism wrote:
It's just frustrating to even to even attempt scum hunting when play like that is tolerated from veterans. Frustrating to scum hunt? He has yet to even make a strong accusation at this point. He tells others to scum hunt but has done none of his own. He is well aware of that though. + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2011 18:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 16:48 syllogism wrote:
It's 5:30 in the morning and your bitching I haven't made analysis? I have been more active than you this entire game so don't go there. As for analysis I shall do it when I get home from work if I have the time. Analysis on people takes a huge amount of time which I may not have until tommorrow. Oh I'm perfectly conscious of my hypocrisy, and I didn't mean today, but overall you haven't done any analysis of your own either and just wanted to lurker lynch instead. At least I've an excuse since this is my first game, but you specifically made a list of players, including you, who should step up and bizarrely recommended that those players shouldn't be DT checked or medi protected. I suppose the natural explanation is that you aren't playing for town victory. He finally does scum hunt a little bit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230789¤tpage=37#725 This is his second time he has pointed his finger at Sinani but then changing it quickly. First time he goes to ILJ and then changes his vote again here: + Show Spoiler +On June 20 2011 01:50 syllogism wrote:
Unvoting, I'll vote for hiro, sinani or a lurker (which is pretty much everyone) later. Not GG though as he is completely AWOL and should be vigied no matter what at this point. If he is mafia, he has been able to appear to be pro-town by encouraging to scum hunt but not doing it himself. He has made some initial votes that do not draw attention, and then move them to someone else without much reason. First time to a player who flipped town. Thats why my vote is on him. Also will be bit suspicious of sinani if syllo flips red.
Now I don't know if all that was WIFOM or just terrible analysis, but its my first game, so I'm at least trying.
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On June 20 2011 07:07 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 06:53 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On June 20 2011 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Seriously, why is it when I vote for an inactive, its scummy, but when BC or node does it, they get no flack? No matter what I do, its scummy.
RoL: what changed your mind about me?
##vote syllogism
I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said.
I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace. I never actually had an opinion about you. Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 06:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
There is no reason to release my scum list since we can only kill one person in the day. I will say this though, I have a strong town read on hiro protagonist.
On June 20 2011 06:53 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Seriously, why is it when I vote for an inactive, its scummy, but when BC or node does it, they get no flack? No matter what I do, its scummy.
RoL: what changed your mind about me?
##vote syllogism
I agree that the vote should be between me and syllogism. Both act scummy, one of us is probably scum. should give us good info with the votes. I'm fine with the other being viged like BC said.
I am tired of defending myself, vote for who you think is more scummy. peace. I never actually had an opinion about you.
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Well I think I'm going to call it a night. I haven't masoned anyone, though I doubt this information will turn out useful. In case someone is still considering, you should have a look at some of the posts I've made and haven't been quoted and consider motivations for mafia making such posts. This is WIFOM, but the context here is a player who hasn't played previously on these forums. The case against me is stunningly weak.
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On June 20 2011 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:
##unvote
##Vote syllogism
Yo ~OpZ~, what up with the stealth vote?
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I like how aidnai can say something like "if RoL was scum, someone would be there defending him" while defending him and convince people that he's innocent. Sorry, but I don't buy it, and I find it ludicrous that he's able to dodge a lynch like this. So, that's where my vote's going.
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On June 20 2011 08:08 Varpulis wrote:Yo ~OpZ~, what up with the stealth vote?
Nothin. I just changed my vote. Deal with it.
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