EPT@RoL
If you're a vig announce your hit a couple minutes before the day post if possible
If you're scum, show up dead in the day post, or shoot one of your team mates, please. :p
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Mr. Wiggles
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@RoL If you're a vig announce your hit a couple minutes before the day post if possible If you're scum, show up dead in the day post, or shoot one of your team mates, please. :p | ||
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On June 24 2011 03:34 Mataza wrote: This is the first time that anyone ever argues it may be coincidence. Now this can´t explain the bluesnipe quote. If there is anything one thesis cannot cover you are allowed to go one level higher on complexity. I've been arguing it's coincidence the entire time? If I say RoL is town, and you are a veteran, what other explanation can I give? Unless you're scum, you don't know what scum were planning on doing with their shots. Also, what do you mean "bluesnipe quote"? | ||
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Maybe they shot you because you're active? Maybe you're talking to one of them in PM and said something that warranted a shot? Maybe they just think that you were a threat at that point in time? Maybe they think you're a strong player? Maybe they wanted to cast suspicion on someone? I'm not going to comment more, because it's a complete joke and a waste of time. If you want, give me concrete reasons for why everyone else was shot in this game, and then we can laugh together when we're completely wrong because we don't know why scum shot someone unless it's blatantly obvious like claiming DT, until they tell us. | ||
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Sinani206: Most of his posts are useless one-liners, or filled with inanity, so I'm going to avoid most of those. His general posting activity has been as follows: Decently active day 1, prompted partially by being called scummy and a small bandwagon being formed. Less active day 2, with his activity declining as time went on. Complete lurker from then on out, he's picked up a bit recently, but again, it's been mostly useless spam. Reasons I think he's scummy: On June 15 2011 12:05 sinani206 wrote: There's no reason to post N0. There's nothing to discuss and there's no reason why anyone should be posting at all. Telling people who to check, shoot, bomb, and kill just allows for WIFOM and confusion which help the mafia. Nothing good can come out of posting N0. Telling people not to post N0, after N0 is already over. An attempt to chastise town while simultaneously making himself look like a voice of reason. Useless advice at that point, and it only came out after being called on for not posting for the first 24 hours of the game. He then continued day 1, by continuously calling for scum hunting to be done while pointing fingers at various veterans without providing any semblance of an analysis himself. I called him out on it, and after that he went pretty quiet, not commenting on anything I said and completely sidestepping the issue. This is around where he began his subsequent posting behaviour of very short (often one-line) posts. On June 20 2011 00:06 sinani206 wrote: I'm at the Grand Canyon and have really bad internet, so I can only post like once every few hours, but Node is being really inactive for being on the Zodiac List. ##Vote: Node Votes for Node, instead of either Syllogism or Hiro, or even any other player with any semblance of an analysis against them. This is the same as his voting habits day 1, voting for Kenpachi instead of any other candidate, and then only because Kenpachi's posting was bad (lol). It looks like someone afraid to commit to an opinion, so instead taking an easy road out. Doesn't want to be held accountable for whatever the lynch target flips. On June 22 2011 11:53 sinani206 wrote: Back from the Grand Canyon! It was quite fun. Spent some time with my family, and now I get to go back to living in my room.  Of the 8 voting for RoL (not including me): 1 (Mataza) proved he was Mafia with the whole PM thing. (no shit) 1 (GGQ) voted without posting in the thread 6 voted with a post such as "good evidence" or something like that. Not scummy at all, considering the circumstances. I propose someone shoots GGQ tonight because he hasn't really contributed at all and killing inactives is the vigilante's job. GGQ has been passing by with 1 to 2 posts a day, and everyone has overlooked that. So I will be voting for RoL today and hopefully someone shoots GGQ tonight. ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend This was from the last day. I've already made a post, saying why I think it's scummy, but I'll reiterate a little. Basically, this shows that he's willing to jump on the bandwagon of a possible townie, without any reason behind it. The entire post just looks like an excuse to jump on the RoL wagon, and shows that he hadn't even been paying close attention to the thread. On June 25 2011 05:20 sinani206 wrote: I comes after H, I think. I'm quite safe (last). DeMorcerf seems pretty scummy anyway, I guess. This post might be meant to be joking, but it still looks scummy to me. Of all the lurkers, he thinks he won't be focused on, and instead just pushes for the one the bandwagon looks like it will be on. On June 25 2011 10:06 sinani206 wrote: RoL I'm not sure about him at all. He attacked Kenpachi, Syllogism, and youngminii, who all flipped Townie. However, he defended opz and hiro protagonist, who both flipped Mad Hatter. His posting has seemed scummy is places, but in others it seems he is a misguided townie. However, Mataza attacked him for being Mafia because of the whole PM circle thing. -3 for attacking 3 Townies +2 for defending 2 Mad Hatters -2 for early scummy/trolling play +4 for good analysis lategame -2 because of the PM circle thing +6-7=-1 Slightly scummy, but not enough for a lynch today. (hey! im a math person, okay?) Another example, of a bad post with bad reasoning. How he determines RoL's alignment, isn't very good, and is in fact useless for gaining any information on Sinani himself.It's a post meant to make him look like he's contributing while really adding no new information to the thread. So conclusion: -Posts are mostly useless -Begins day 1 calling for scum hunting (while doing none himself) and chastising town to look like he's contributing while he's not. -When called out on the hypocrisy of his actions, he avoids talking about it, and instead disappears. -He's afraid to commit to an opinion the first two days, instead opting for voting someone not likely to be lynched, thus denying any information we might have gotten from his opinions. -The next two days he show a great willingness to jump on bandwagons with little or bad reasoning. -Posts with little content that don't show his own thoughts while trying to look like he is providing new content. -Avoids responding to any pressure. Probable Scum Basically, he looks like a newbie scum who's afraid to show commitment to an opinion/stance and is too afraid to respond to pressure for fear of showing his true colours. He either takes an easy way out where it's hard to get information about him, or jumps on whatever looks like the easiest bandwagon with bad reasoning. ##Vote: Sinani206 That's where my vote's going for now, until I look at more people and see if someone looks scummier. I'd like to see an actual case on some of the other lurkers, instead of just calling them out and randomly voting amongst them. Mataza's town, I think RoL is town, have to look at most other people. Good night.  | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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@GGQ I've already given my justification for RoL being town or Mataza's "trap" not being strong enough early last day cycle. Just look at his analysis and how he's trying to scum hunt. I might be wrong, but mafia aren't normally that convinced that they're right. I'd also like you to actually respond to my analysis instead of just shrugging it off. I don't even know what you're talking about with Sinani having the balls to post. Of the lurkers, it only looks like shraft is actually saying anything this cycle, unless posting images and one liners counts as contributing. On June 26 2011 07:23 sinani206 wrote: Well, as everyone seems to be voting for RoL anyway, I might as well, because he seems relatively scummy. ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend Once again hopping on the easy bandwagon. My vote stands. | ||
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GG guys. :p Anyone interested in the quick-topic: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/yqEe3beDbun | ||
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On June 26 2011 16:25 Mataza wrote: Bam! I guessed the millers right, lol. Some things here happened really strange. I caught BC because I thought RoL was scum. I was sure that Wiggles and RoL wouldn´t be same team as Wiggles reacted to my accusation by sheeping RoL´s YM lynch without a second thought. I had Jacinto for a moment, also GGQ, but then the RoL incident happened, which led to BC <.< This shit was bananas, don´t deny it. I didn't really sheep his accusation though. I was just the first one to say your "trap" wasn't going to work and stuck my vote on YM cause there was an analysis, and because it was made by RoL. Those two points were important to me, because I knew RoL was going to flip green/blue, so by sticking my vote on the person he made an analysis on, I made myself look aligned with him. At least that's how I see it. Unfortunately, it was a lot of the lurkers who sheeped, and ended up voting with RoL, and actually killing YM. In the end, your plan didn't work, because RoL was green. :p I'd like to hear from Sandroba what he actually said to RoL too, because I'm interested if he actually said you were blue or not, haha. Also, as far as I remember, none of our hits N0 and N1 were blue snipes either. :p | ||
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On June 27 2011 07:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Somewhere in here the "Slip" is quoted. It's something about Mataza being interested in the sandroba PM plan which was supposed to infer he was blue. It was a PM that was quoted to me. I never even realized it was supposed to be a blue slip/tell. Oh, haha. So tat actually is what the slip was supposed to be? Not very strong then, as far as laying a trap goes :p | ||
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In general, I like the PM mechanic. It's more limiting and strategic than free PMs, which I think promotes more creative and deeper play, and also deters a lot of circle forming, or at least makes it more risky, as if mafia know whoever the central person is, they can shut it down. Maybe something to consider if not a lot of people like this format is a "refunding mason" sort of mechanic, where if your mason contact dies you are either immediately (or after a delay) refunded your mason to use again. That might solve some problems of the risk inherent in early masonings (though I personally kind of like the risk/reward dynamic that exists already) That said, I might think differently of it from a town perspective, as I didn't need to make heavy use of it this game, and because I was mafia. | ||
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European Countries for 200$. | ||
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