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RebirthOfLeGenD
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sinani206
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On June 14 2011 13:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Zodiac list time. Rebirthoflegend BloodyC0bbler Node Mr.Wiggles Kitaman Opz Youngminii Scamp Everyone should be watching players very closely on this list. We as a group will draw insane scrutiny from town and as such dt checks should be used on anyone not us. The group of us should be forced to prove our worth to town. It also provides us with a list that if there are any reds in shooting into becomes dangerous as it lowers the possible hiding spots for them. This should effectively keep veteran townies alive and kicking longer while letting medics work elsewhere. Dts should be firing into people who are likely to be inactive, or have posted something insanely suspicious. Medics should protect anyone who is not listed above. Note: This is for night 0 and potentially night 1 only. Past that time frame enough information should be garnered in thread for blues to act properly and the vets to properly distinguish sides. Just making sure all blues see this tonight  | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On June 17 2011 10:34 Kenpachi wrote: Much things to say about RebirthofLegend ill talk after the lynch. hes not been at his A-game this entire time. Promised you guys that ill give my voice RoL.. I didnt mason him so dunno if hes talking a bunch but, hes been pretty scummy On June 14 2011 02:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: SOOOWEEET TEAM ASSEMBLE Alright, everyone PM flamewheel and mason me, then I want a mass role claim D1. okay so the first bunch of his posts demanded the role of town mason. This is just his first. On June 14 2011 17:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: medics protect me, problem solved. My goal is different then sandroba's because he wanted to form some half assed blue circle. I am going to use it to kill mafia. I don't use it just to scum hunt, but also to town confirm. Process of elimination baby! I will say that if hes mafia, he is trying to win over some medics. On June 15 2011 03:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: there is no framing in this game. Stop talking about it. Holy shit. I know where I am placing my bomb tonight, this is ridiculous. Soft claim Mad Hatter (possibly metaphorical) well, this would kinda prove to be controversial later on.. On June 15 2011 07:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: All I need to say to this is, I am that good. My track record speaks for itself. Boasts that hes a talented veteran. well, yeah about that. I believe that you are really good but were just getting to the good part. On June 15 2011 22:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I will be a sober, conscious, contributing member of XLII society in roughly 9 hours. I think he was late on this part 19 hours later.. On June 16 2011 17:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: FUCK ALLOF YOU On June 16 2011 17:26 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I had a much busier day then I thought, and I ended up going to a party 2.5 hours away last night on an hours notice. But tomorrow I will try to be much more active until I head back into new jersey for a couple of days. On June 17 2011 04:09 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: That's it, Lynch kenpachi. This is ridiculous. You are retarded, and trying to read words off a rock is going to be annoying, so I say we are better off just getting you out of the way right now. Okay so this is the common reaction of people who play with me for the first time. I blew this off and disregarded it but hey, it seems kinda suspicious. (Also, if RoL is mafia, BC is liable of being mafia too. Damn that would be kinda imbalanced though) On June 17 2011 04:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Seriously though, I am not joking. Fuck the other 3 candidates. That was the single worst thing I ever ever read. He is inactive then makes a blanket statement with NO evidence then falls back into inactivity? It's so reckless, and annoying. It needs to go right now. Lynch kenpachi, honestly maybe I make bold statements but at least I provide reasoning. hate! Mafia has the advantage against me because they can abuse the fact that i make scummy post and waste a lynch (I swear i will make myself GodFather when im mafia) On June 17 2011 09:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I just got my DT check back, Kenpachi is mafia. Hrm.. Remember when i said shit would be controversial? yeah. ILJ (Now a dead townie) makes his attempt to survive the lynch and he makes good analysis and i think RoL shat his pants and decided it would be time to unleash the chainsaw, cept hes lying. Adding onto that, people raged at the timing of the post. If youre town, do you hate me that much? On June 17 2011 10:56 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: you guys are all jackasses. I told you I checked KP, why didn't you lynch him? I want an explanation. KP = KenPachi or Kill power? why are you calling people Jackasses? Why did you quote my post? Hysteria! Conclusion: RoL hates my guts or is Godfather Why did i conclude that he might be GF? well, i think a BC/RoL Mafia team would be completely imbalanced so based off the meta, i only think 1 could be on the team at once. RoL is indeed the 2nd best player in the game and no doubt would he assume role of GF from his mafia companions. Or he hates me. okay And that ends my Analysis Now some people might be angry that my analysis came at the start of the night. OMFG IM VULNERABLE TO KP. no, mafia would never kill me ^_^ KENPACHI LIVES FOREVER | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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FudgeMunkey
Australia59 Posts
I want an explanation. KP = KenPachi or Kill power? why are you calling people Jackasses? Why did you quote my post? Hysteria! KP means Kill power! For every kill power the Mafia has they can kill each night... Mafia currently have 3 KP so they can kill 3 people per night... Hope that cleared it up. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On June 17 2011 15:01 FudgeMunkey wrote: KP means Kill power! For every kill power the Mafia has they can kill each night... Mafia currently have 3 KP so they can kill 3 people per night... Hope that cleared it up. Are you sure? i think it could mean kenpachi... And why are you laughing RoL? that's a serious business accusation against you... + Show Spoiler + trollolol on a serious note, I'm going on vacation for a couple days, will only have my kindle to post on. So I'm gonna do my heavy lifting now, I normally don't like posting at night, but what the hey... | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
So uhh, Kenpachi, you realise that pointing out A FUCKING BLUE at night will result in his death right? | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
hiro protagonist Here is my case against hiro. 1) He hides his true agenda with his posts, and does not follow through with his "townie" lines of thought or actions, proving that they are for show only. 2) He is afraid of looking suspicious. 3) He made two posts that are bad enough to be considered scum slips, i.e. he let his true colors shine through. 4) Comparison to his scum play in SNMM II shows important similarities. There are other points that could be brought up, but this should suffice. And maybe other people will find them too anyway... 1. No follow through/hidden agenda On June 14 2011 11:53 hiro protagonist wrote: anyone up for a little night time scum hunting... He never in any sense followed through with this idea. So, what could possibly be the agenda here? It appears that hiro protagonist desires night time discussion of lynch targets, correct? Wrong, look at this post of his later: On June 16 2011 14:11 hiro protagonist wrote: ... @OpZ: I agree that some of those players look scummy. I am curtain that Mafia has all ready posted in fact. but after going though the thread, I dont see that many scum tells. There is just not enough for me to go on right now. Lets keep up the pressure on those three. [edit: he means ILJ/sinani/aidnai trio] FoS on Sandroba: Maybe I am reading this wrong, but Sandroba is know for Sticking his neck out with plans like the one he said. He is also really good at wiggling out of suspicion. It would make sense for scum to bate out talk on night one that would give them info on players, so they can better aim there hits. His plan did just that. So Sandroba, may I ask why you would say this on night zero? Would it not be better to wait till day 1 to bring this up? are you still interested in applying you plan? depending on his answers, I might vote for Sandroba. Otherwise, I think lynching one of the lurkers might be a good idea. He never followed through with pressuring anybody, including sandroba. He instead went with a 'safe' vote on GG, until he had to save himself. Furthermore, he FoSes Sandroba for "bating out" discussion on night 0? That completely contradicts his first post... So what did he hope to accomplish himself with that first post? Simple, he wanted to post like a townie. 2. Afraid There is a decided lack of 'risky' posting from hiro. He votes for a total lurker, he shoots down an obviously horrible plan; but everything else he does he is reluctant about. Look at the posts that hiro is comfortable making: + Show Spoiler [safe posts] + On June 14 2011 13:05 hiro protagonist wrote: Shoots down a plan that is already dead.Yeah, lets not put all our eggs in one basket. Lets not do any plans like this. I am sure anyone with a brain can see why this is a god awful plan. On June 14 2011 13:10 hiro protagonist wrote: This is so vague and 'safe' it's hard to say whether or not he failed to follow through...EBWOP: I know its night time, and thats when we talk about blue roles, but lets not focus all of our energy into "what should blues do, and mansion me plz!!!" come day, lets focus on getting to know one another. On June 14 2011 13:22 hiro protagonist wrote: Beating a dead horse...hell, even if you are town, Mafia is simply gonna spam you with PMs claiming there DTs and messing with you. There are so many ways this could go wrong... Its night fucking Zero! Do not claim. No plans. That is all. It is obvious at this point that hiro is comfortable with shooting down sandroba's plan. That's an issue where it is clear what a townie should think, therefore those are easy posts for him to make. How about when asked for his opinion of aidnai/ILJ/sinani, who were the current vote leaders? On June 16 2011 14:11 hiro protagonist wrote: @OpZ: I agree that some of those players look scummy. I am curtain that Mafia has all ready posted in fact. but after going though the thread, I dont see that many scum tells. There is just not enough for me to go on right now. Lets keep up the pressure on those three. FoS on Sandroba: Maybe I am reading this wrong, but Sandroba is know for Sticking his neck out with plans like the one he said. He is also really good at wiggling out of suspicion. It would make sense for scum to bate out talk on night one that would give them info on players, so they can better aim there hits. His plan did just that. So Sandroba, may I ask why you would say this on night zero? Would it not be better to wait till day 1 to bring this up? are you still interested in applying you plan? He is completely unable to give an opinion on us, and instead goes back to discussing Sandroba! Best explanation? He was unable to accuse us townies because he knew it was BS, thus he was scared. One more point to prove his fear: In his defense against sandroba, hiro says two things: 1) your accusations are not worth responding to 2) here is a response to each of your accusations This doesn't make sense: if he is a townie and honestly did not think the accusations had "maret", why respond? I think he is a scum that got spooked. 3) Scumslips This post has already been brought up, but I have to include it for completeness + Show Spoiler [scumslip] + On June 17 2011 06:28 hiro protagonist wrote: yeah, thing is Mig, BC is calling out those lurkers to post. It worked too. So step it up guys if you want to play. As for the lynch targets, sinani, and ILJ still look suspicious to me. ILJ more so, because his slip into lurker mode. I want to see him scum hunt, cus right now the only contribution I see from him is defending himself. However, I wont vote for him because he is under the gun, We have ample opportunity to see if he slips up, or scum tells. One person that is really flying under the radar is Impervious. So far all his post have had little substance, and smell sightly of scum. As for the lurkers, One stands out and thats grassgiraffe. The others have yet to post much but grass last post SCREAMS out "I made my vote, and I'm out". I know, because that sounds exactly like some of the lurkers in SNMMII. They would simply come in once or twice during the day and say,"yep, I agree with so and so, vote: name here". I am 90% sure he is town, and 100% sure we dont need him. come prove me wrong grass. ##Vote: grassgiraffe and his other scumslip (imo) On June 16 2011 14:11 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, I should have said hat I was gonna be gone most of the day due to the Stanly Cup finals. My bad. Would have been home sooner+ Show Spoiler + but I had to avoid the fucking riots -__- God dammit Vancouver @OpZ: I agree that some of those players look scummy. I am curtain that Mafia has all ready posted in fact. but after going though the thread, I dont see that many scum tells. There is just not enough for me to go on right now. Lets keep up the pressure on those three. FoS on Sandroba: Maybe I am reading this wrong, but Sandroba is know for Sticking his neck out with plans like the one he said. He is also really good at wiggling out of suspicion. It would make sense for scum to bate out talk on night one that would give them info on players, so they can better aim there hits. His plan did just that. So Sandroba, may I ask why you would say this on night zero? Would it not be better to wait till day 1 to bring this up? are you still interested in applying you plan? depending on his answers, I might vote for Sandroba. Otherwise, I think lynching one of the lurkers might be a good idea. I've gone over this post a bit already, but there's more in here: in this post, hiro a) apologizes for activity, when he was doing better than half the town b) fails to give an opinion on aidnai/ILJ/sinani, despite not being directly asked (OpZ asked everyone) (why did he bring it up at all, right? scum WANT to contribute, they WANT to blend in, but it's so fucking hard for them!) c) "let's keep up pressure" -> do nothing about it d) goes back to easy mode discussion on sandroba e) "not enough to go on" "i think" "might be" general wishy-washiness 4) Similar scum play in SNMM II Check out these posts from hiro as scum in surprisingly nomal mini mafia II. On May 17 2011 02:58 hiro protagonist wrote: Its true that lurking round is a good place for scum to hide, as there is little evidence to indict them. how ever all but 3 of us have posted and I doubt that ALL of the inactives will be scum... best bet is a scum has already posted, so we should try to sniff em out! If we don't have a good lead by tomorrow, then we should ask the lurkers to step up and explain themselves... Does this sound familiar? a) sure scum has posted b) we should find them! with no follow through of course + Show Spoiler + On May 17 2011 12:23 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, here are my thoughts so far, the first two people I gonna talk about are the ones i have the most read on/talked the most o far: VisceraEyes: He was the most active in the first few pages, with most of his post wanting simply for all active players to say hi. Also mentioning not to take suspicions of one another as a bad thing. I can agree with this line of logic, as it will foster a more friendly town, and get in on the scum hunting. His FoS of Mataza looks more like a call for discussion then an actual accusation. my worry is that he is almost TOO town, and is a likely prime hit for Mafia, unless of course he IS Mafia. Mataza: considered the most suspicious as of right now, and with good reasoning. His first post was one of feinting a cop role. and Has been very Defensive initially when VisceraEye ask a question. Then he points the finger right back at VisceraEyes. after that he claims that he "just wanted to see how you would react". However he made a good post about how he wants to talk about what everyone else thinks, and his post are in the vein of scumhunting (when his not busy defending himself). not sure what to think of him tbh. Next up GiygaS, nord, Palmar,: These 3 have the most posts with the least amount of Analysis. most likely town wanting to hang low or wait and see before going into to much discussion. GiygaS has done the most in getting discussion going, expesialy around what VisceraEye and Mataza have been saying. not alot to go on. prplhz: quite at first but then a solid post with good analysis. Deepblue, Steff, Karshe: still need to here more from them. deepblue has gotten in pretty late with just a one liner. gonna watch to see if he is gonna just slide under the modkill, as there are still some inactives, and is laying low(as in acting scummy) thats it for now. TLDR: a whole bunch of analysis where he doesn't find anyone that scummy. + Show Spoiler + On May 18 2011 09:05 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, LOTS to go on here, gonna give my take on things: The General feeling for the first day started like this: the town began giving intro post that most had no content. the exception to this is of course Mataza, who kinda claimed Cop, and then retracted it.( I still do not like is explanation). the first three people to really get the ball rolling where ViscaraEyes, GiygaS, and Mataza. Of the three, I liked VisEyes approach the most, and Mataza's the least. but these 3 started talking, there still talking, and its leading somewhere. the way I feel about it is the longer they talk, the long one will slip up, and for me that does not make them A high priority lynch. Is one of them Mafia? man it sure looks like it. the next list of people include me: Hiro, Karshe, Palmar, Prplhz, and nard. Of this group, Prplhz and Karshe have had the most helpful post in my eyes. Palmar and nard mostly made some general post about the situation. Im leaving me out because thats a job for someone else. Where does this leave me? I starting to look at inactives to vote for. but which one? The only one I feel right now that would be an ok vote would be Skrammen, and heres why. the only post by Skrammen is one of agreeing with Mataza, apparently for no reason, ether he is a terrible Maffia, or a terrible townie. Mataza, I want to believe your town, but the way you go about playing just rubs me a bit. I LOVE that you are taking swings at people, but as soon as some one wants to have a disscusion, you ether turn your finger on them, or call them a Bandwaggoner. I also dont like that almost every defense you say "I just wanted to see how you would react." that might be true, but it leaves me with no read on you... what would we get if we voted Skrammen? if he flips town, we got a good reason to trust Mataza. If he flips scum, well, Mataza has some explaining to do... will decide in a bit, to give more inactives time to post He's given a list of three possible scum. He says there is probably scum in there somewhere, BUT that the lynch should go elsewhere. Guess where? + Show Spoiler + On May 18 2011 09:48 hiro protagonist wrote: gonna stay with my line of logic, and vote skrammen. I cant believe more people are not on him given his VERY little content, and insta bandwagon vote. Best case scenario: town votes GiygaS, and he flips scum. We got reason to trust one another and the hunt is in full swing. worst case: GiygaS flips green, and we have lots of suspicions. Very good chance of Mafia breaking up trust and getting us to turn on one another. good no mater what: voting Skrammen. we get ride of a terrible player, and we get a possible read on Mataza. I chose this one. Eather way, Im happy with day one. ##Vote: Skrammen He votes for a lurker, a "terrible player" a burden to town blah blah blah. This should sound pretty familiar to us now... In Summary: hiro is trying to play safe, hide his true intentions, and avoid suspicion, but he slipped hard. He is scum. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On June 17 2011 15:54 youngminii wrote: Sorry I wasn't awake for the lynch, I might have changed my vote to hiro (I agree with Varpulis's post against him) but that doesn't really matter anymore. So uhh, Kenpachi, you realise that pointing out A FUCKING BLUE at night will result in his death right? If RoL is blue (and the safe money is on he isn't) he's a vet trying to draw a mafia shot by claiming everything under the sun. But the fact that Kenpachi of all people realized that he's playing terribly should underline just how useless RoL has been so far this game. I also fail to understand how Kenpachi is pointing out a blue when he calls RoL the GF. | ||
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hiro protagonist
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First of all, The "scum slip". What the fuck. Sure, maybe I should have worded it better, but I stand by what I said. The fact is none of my accusers bothered to ask me to clarify my statement. Only Wiggles asked me what I meant to which I replied: On June 17 2011 06:35 hiro protagonist wrote: @Wiggles: For the reasons I stated. If Grass comes in and says something, hell anything, that would be of an contribution, I will take my vote off him. I will urge others to do the same. If I had to vote for someone else, I would vote ILJ or Impervious. I was right about that, wasn't I? I will even tell you what he will do tomorrow: One post defending himself, one giving some small analysis, and one declaring who his voting for. done and done. I still feel it should have been Grass on the lynch. I am less certain He is just a board townie, seeing the shit storm that happened after he became a major lynch target... As for saying that I find ILJ suspicious while not actual voting for him: I was fine with what others said in there pressuring of him, but I was not ready to vote for him. One of the reason can be found right here: On June 17 2011 07:27 hiro protagonist wrote: you guys make a good case for ILJ. @OpZ: I will not switch from one random lurker to another. I voted on grass for reasons I stated. also, for those that voted on some one and the only reason you voted for them is "yeah, I agree with XXX...", thats shotty play. you NEED to give your own reasons for voting for some one. not just other peoples reasons. As far as I am concerned, Grass IS the only lurker now (with ILJ being kinda lurky) If Grass shows up, then I will switch to ILJ. What I want is ILJ to show up as well. Also, just food for thought, but If someone states that they are not gonna be round much, It makes them an easy target for Mafia to mislynch... This became plainly obvious to town right before the ILJ lynch. As for my own vote on ILJ, I did it to save my fucking life. Lastly, apart from Varp making some cherry picked analysis of me and Viscera's reason, the rest of the votes are a bandwagon on me with little explanation. 2.5 hours before the vote ends. That screams some suspicious voting right there... Pretty fucking bad play from town imo. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
Good effort there, but its all wrong Im afraid. Its of to bed right now, but I look forward to ripping into that, and when thats done, come day break, I have some scum of my own to hunt. Good night all. | ||
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syllogism
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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On June 17 2011 17:22 Node wrote: If RoL is blue (and the safe money is on he isn't) he's a vet trying to draw a mafia shot by claiming everything under the sun. But the fact that Kenpachi of all people realized that he's playing terribly should underline just how useless RoL has been so far this game. I also fail to understand how Kenpachi is pointing out a blue when he calls RoL the GF. Remember that time I carried you in Merc Mafia? don't hate~~ just hand grenade | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Just some advice. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On June 17 2011 07:47 Scamp wrote: I need to go and I won't be back before the deadline. As stated earlier, I don't think either ILJ or GG are scum so I won't be voting for them. However, I do like aidnai's case against him [ILJ?] as outlined a few posts before this one. Also my read on GG is null but I'm suspicious of a few people that are voting for him. You can treat my vote as an abstain vote but it's going on someone who I will be looking at more closely on the next day. You like a case against them, but don't think they are scum ??? | ||
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FudgeMunkey
Australia59 Posts
I want an explanation. KP = KenPachi or Kill power? why are you calling people Jackasses? Why did you quote my post? Hysteria! KP means Kill power! For every kill power the Mafia has they can kill each night... Mafia currently have 3 KP so they can kill 3 people per night... Hope that cleared it up. Are you sure? i think it could mean kenpachi... And why are you laughing RoL? that's a serious business accusation against you... on a serious note, I'm going on vacation for a couple days, will only have my kindle to post on. So I'm gonna do my heavy lifting now, I normally don't like posting at night, but what the hey... Oh sorry KP may mean KenPachi, I didn't read the posts before... but for those of you who are unsure then i may have cleared something up about Kill Power. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On June 17 2011 18:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Oh sorry KP may mean KenPachi, I didn't read the posts before... but for those of you who are unsure then i may have cleared something up about Kill Power. Oh yeah, fudgemunkey, you're scum too. | ||
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FudgeMunkey
Australia59 Posts
Since when? | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
"I could post a lot and help town, I just don´t want to. Maybe I will start to post more if you kill Kenpachi" Are you shitting us? Why the F' sign up to a game and then go ahead with a plan that gives you the chance of being Superman in PM land and then say "The game is boring I´m watching TV instead". Apart from any alignment, what kind of attitude is that? | ||
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