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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
June 17 2011 00:31 GMT
#481
I like the scum slip catch, but right now I'm more concerned and believe that there is a higher chance there is scum within my own wagon. Unless RoL friggin comes back and says he's actually not fucking around with his DT check thing, I'm staying on Shraft.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
June 17 2011 00:32 GMT
#482
Also, 1.5 hours before lynch deadline and it's quiet as hell. WHO B LURKING NOW? Scum obviously satisfied with the current wagon on me.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 00:35 GMT
#483
On June 17 2011 05:47 syllogism wrote:
Lazorbear hasn't voted and made his only post on n0, so unless a miracle occurs he is getting mod killed anyway. He is a friend of varpulis and it sounded like he was going to mason him. Any insights you would like to share about him Varpulis?

He's a bored townie, from what he's been saying to me. He's not spending any time on the thread, i'm not sure he's even caught up. Count him useless, waste of a lynch though, if he even remembers to vote. Not sure why he joined the game, tbh.

Reading through hiro protagonist's posts now, verdict in a sec.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
June 17 2011 00:37 GMT
#484
Actually...Lemme take a look at the voting thread, and shraft...As long as you remain active at the times you say I'll be fine with that. I work to...7 AM EST to 3 and or 12 (noon) EST most days. So I understand. But I'm not gonna take my eyes off of you. I'm sure you understand good sir.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 17 2011 00:42 GMT
#485
The lynch result may be slightly delayed... I have to attend to something.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
June 17 2011 00:44 GMT
#486
I'm removing my vote from ILJ and placing it on Shraft, because I don't feel I can get the wagon moved to Hiro. ILJ's sudden increase in posting has made me reconsider that he was just using it as an excuse and trying to hide. I think he should be given a few more days with his increase in scum hunting, and I promise to put more effort into looking for a new suspect in a little. Given with the time constraint, I'm going to move to someone that has voted for him, and trust a little in his gut. I follow my gut often enough.

If you survive ILJ, I would consider communicating with you.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#487
hiro is scum. Some gems of his scum posting are:
On June 14 2011 13:10 hiro protagonist wrote:
EBWOP: I know its night time, and thats when we talk about blue roles, but lets not focus all of our energy into "what should blues do, and mansion me plz!!!" come day, lets focus on getting to know one another.

"No discussion guys, because discussion is bad." Pursuing scum objective by quelling discussion.
On June 16 2011 14:11 hiro protagonist wrote:
@OpZ: I agree that some of those players look scummy. I am curtain that Mafia has all ready posted in fact. but after going though the thread, I dont see that many scum tells. There is just not enough for me to go on right now. Lets keep up the pressure on those three.

FoS on Sandroba:
Maybe I am reading this wrong, but Sandroba is know for Sticking his neck out with plans like the one he said. He is also really good at wiggling out of suspicion. It would make sense for scum to bate out talk on night one that would give them info on players, so they can better aim there hits. His plan did just that. So Sandroba, may I ask why you would say this on night zero? Would it not be better to wait till day 1 to bring this up? are you still interested in applying you plan?

depending on his answers, I might vote for Sandroba. Otherwise, I think lynching one of the lurkers might be a good idea.

@Paragraph 1: "There are scum, but I don't know who they are." Blanket statement, filler.

@Paragraph 2: "Sandroba got people talking, so he's scummy. Also, i'll bring up that bad plan again for good measure." Derailment, poor FoS on an easy target. Also, he declines to actually take a stance on the current suspects.

On June 17 2011 06:28 hiro protagonist wrote:
As for the lynch targets, sinani, and ILJ still look suspicious to me. ILJ more so, because his slip into lurker mode. I want to see him scum hunt, cus right now the only contribution I see from him is defending himself. However, I wont vote for him because he is under the gun, We have ample opportunity to see if he slips up, or scum tells.

One person that is really flying under the radar is Impervious. So far all his post have had little substance, and smell sightly of scum.

As for the lurkers, One stands out and thats grassgiraffe. The others have yet to post much but grass last post SCREAMS out "I made my vote, and I'm out". I know, because that sounds exactly like some of the lurkers in SNMMII. They would simply come in once or twice during the day and say,"yep, I agree with so and so, vote: name here". I am 90% sure he is town, and 100% sure we dont need him. come prove me wrong grass.

##Vote: grassgiraffe

"ilovejonn and sinani are suspicious. So is Impervious. I'm voting grassgiraffe, who I'm 90% sure is town." Contradictory statement, big scumslip.

I'm currently of the opinion that both grassgiraffe and ilovejonn are town, and that lynching them would be a mistake.

##vote hiro protagonist
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
June 17 2011 01:04 GMT
#488
An hour before lynch lalala, quiet as a mouse.

Votes for ilovejonn (8): Mataza, syllogism, ~OpZ~, Shraft, DeMorcerf, aidnai, Mr. Wiggles, youngminii

1-2 scum be hurr, ~OpZ~ may or may not be switching off me but keep an eye on him and all those people as well.

Scumslip: hiro protagonist

RoL's claimed DT check which he hasn't pushed for after claiming: Kenpachi
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
June 17 2011 01:05 GMT
#489
EDBWOP: ~OpZ~ may or may not be mafia*, switching off me (scum have more info since they know I'll flip green) but keep an eye on him and all those people as well.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
June 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#490
OpZ, switching to shraft seems dumb. if you and jonn switch to hiro, you'll have a real counterwagon going, personally I'd love to see the lynch between jonn/hiro, instead of grass giraffe. Grassgiraffe was always the copout lynch, and should have been abandoned long ago.

ILJ, you want to find scum, that's the list you should be looking at.
BloodyC0bbler, LandenC, Jacinto, VisceraEyes, hiro protagonist
Lurkers, including hiro, plus viscera, who tried to make sandroba look scummy for pushing hiro.

You five on the GG list, switch to hiro or provide a reason why you don't think he's scum. There's absolutely no evidence for/against GG right now, it's an easy copout lynch and a way for you to skate by today without taking a stance on anyone.

I'm staying on ILJ because I don't care if it's him or hiro that gets lynched today.

BTW, i'm pleased with the collective non-response to RoL's bullshit.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
June 17 2011 01:19 GMT
#491
Hey guys, sorry that I've been absent for most of the day, but I'm finally caught up on the thread now. Between an ill-timed power outage and my computer shitting its bed I haven't been able to post. Hopefully there will be no more issues from here on out.

My thoughts:

I don't think ilovejonn is scum. The initial case presented against him by youngminii was flimsy at best, and I don't understand what was so bad about his defense. I dislike that he went inactive, but I can understand his vote on GGQ, and at least he has been following the schedule he set for when he won't be here, unlike, say, RoL. I also like his analysis of Shraft.

Speaking of which, RoL needs to step it up. He's posting like shit. He's claimed both Mad Hatter and Detective now, and I'd bet all of my money forever that both claims are BS. If anyone knows the value of not claiming detective on motherfucking day 1, it's RoL. He's also tried to get a ridiculous number of people to blow their mason usage on him, though if I had to guess he's gotten three people max. The only person he's gone after is Kenpachi, the textbook definition of "easy target", especially on day 1. I also find the timing of the Overall I think he's only served to confuse and mislead the town, so for now I'm going to FoS RebirthOfLeGenD.

I don't think any particularly good cases have been brought up against any of the three main lynch targets (sinani, ilovejonn, aidnai), though the only one I'm pretty sure is town is ilovejonn. So unless something drastic happens in the next 45 minutes, I'm perfectly fine with voting for a lurker. Voting grassgiraffe.
whole lies with a half smile
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
June 17 2011 01:21 GMT
#492
EBWODP:

The only person he's gone after is Kenpachi, the textbook definition of "easy target", especially on day 1. I also find the timing of his push on Kenpachi suspicious. Overall I think he's only served to confuse and mislead the town, so for now I'm going to FoS RebirthOfLeGenD.
whole lies with a half smile
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 17 2011 01:21 GMT
#493
RoL is butthurt. he wants me dead lol
Its not worth suiciding yourself to kill me.
LaL~
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
June 17 2011 01:22 GMT
#494
Also, I will be re-reading hiro protagonist's posts, I'm considering switching to him.
whole lies with a half smile
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 17 2011 01:32 GMT
#495
I've felt Hiro to be scummy for at least 20 hours. If he flips green, I'll be both shocked and amazed.

@aidnai

I didn't TRY to make Sandroba look scummy, he did so all by himself pushing Hiro based on NOTHING. His campaign was based on a SINGLE POSSIBLE scum-slip and nothing else. If you people call that content, your leniency is Legendary.

At any rate, I don't think he's scummy because he wants to vote Hiro. I think he's scummy because he's better than he's posting. Maybe he just knows how to get what he wants, but to me it looks pro-town in all the WRONG ways, if you know what I mean. And I think you doooooooooo.

##Unvote: grassgiraffe
##Vote: hiro protagonist


For repeatedly attempting to derail constructive town conversation, debunk scumhunting and intentionally promote an anti-town environment. NOT because of a scum-slip.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 17 2011 01:34 GMT
#496
Much things to say about RebirthofLegend
ill talk after the lynch. hes not been at his A-game this entire time.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
June 17 2011 01:36 GMT
#497
Like aidnai said, for the second most voted: grassgiraffe

There should be 1-2 scum as well: BloodyC0bbler, LandenC, Jacinto, VisceraEyes, hiro protagonist (disregard Node I guess)

hiro might actually be one with that scum slip thing and he's practically missing right now just because there's no pressure on him. Not sure about BC and Viscera. LandenC and Jacinto slightly higher chance if experienced players on scum team told them to find someone to vote and usually that makes a 2nd wagon.

Since I don't see Shraft getting lynched or a wagon forming on him at all, he could be left for vigs or another day. Changing my vote to hiro. (Though I doubt people will miraculously be back in time to save a potential townie lynch ie, me.)

Still keep an eye on these people who basically have said almost nothing at all from 7 pm (point where I finished reading thread) til 30 minutes before lynch.

Votes for ilovejonn (8): Mataza, syllogism, ~OpZ~, Shraft, DeMorcerf, aidnai, Mr. Wiggles, youngminii

Also, what I find suspicious is aidnai. He's telling me instead of finding scum on the top wagon, to find scum on the 2nd wagon. What's the difference. He's also saying I should switch over to hiro for a potential counter wagon (appears to be helping me, why would you do that if you think I'm scum?), yet his vote stays on me and says he doesn't care whether me or hiro gets lynched. Either he thinks both me and hiro are scum, or he just doesn't care about mislynching a townie.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 17 2011 01:47 GMT
#498
On June 17 2011 07:54 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 07:47 GGQ wrote:
Lynching an inactive is a crapshoot, lynch an active lurker who is skating by with the barest skeleton of contribution. Lynch Impervious.

You literally just said "Doing X is a crapshoot, we should do Y. Do Z."

Anyway, man this thread has become a crapfest in the past few hours. Perfect conditions for mafia to be honest.


No I didnt? Impervious is lurking, contributing almost nothing, just making empty "I'm here" posts. I already looked at his posts earlier in the thread, which also answers Mataza's accusation of me bringing up Impervious way too late. No, I brought him up hours ago but no one responded to my post.

I disagree with the hiro lynch, btw. I've already made a post looking at both hiro and Impervious, I didn't find hiro suspicious at all, though that was before the 'scumslip' about voting for someone that he thought was town. I'd disagree with the logic of that post, but I'd disagree that it was scummy. He just doesn't feel like a scum to me like Impervious does.

Now, obviously Impervious isn't going to get lynched, but I dont like the ILJ lynch either, so I'm keeping my vote on him in protest.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
June 17 2011 01:48 GMT
#499
ILJ:
your list becomes suspicious if/when you flip town. There are, in my opinion, good reasons to vote for you. There are no good reasons to vote for GG.
Shraft has been making posts that are easy to make as a scum, but they aren't NECESSARILY scummy, and certainly if you flip red he'll look a lot better.

Visc, I see what you're saying now.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 17 2011 01:48 GMT
#500
GUYS WTF CHANGE YOUR VOTE NAO NAO NAOANOANAONAO
ilj looks to be town :s
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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