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stefftastiq
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stefftastiq
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my guess is that atleast one of them are fairly active i.e. one of the guys posting a lot of derailing posts which confuse people -> palmar or mataza? also i would guess theres one of the other more silent players which just stays in the back trying not to draw to much attention and "blend in" with the inactive townies - thats the one we have to get attention to, jeejee, unichan, kavdragon ? | ||
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stefftastiq
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Okay. prplhz Palmar Mataza stefftastiq OriginalName You're all on my huge FoS list if Sinani flips non-red. I can't think of any reason why you all have such a strong opinion about lynching him. His actions are very non-scummy. If he had mafia friends I'd assume they'd try to change discussion to something else other than lynching him. Basically makes half the players <.< Also, Varpulis jumping around with his voting pattern, basically accusing everyone. Don't know what to make of that, just noting it. As for my vote, I'm basically defending Sinani now and I agree with Varpulis' plan. Also: Just saying, he was an aybsmal townie in the first place. It's not a huge loss in the end. ##Vote OriginalName @youngminii you obviously copied this votelist from GM's post - but WHY did you remove unichans name from the vote list? he had a vote sinani as well - it it was not on the top of the list nor on the bottom.... so cant really blame it from a bad copy/paste or something. Why werent you suspicious about unichan? | ||
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stefftastiq
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while reading back I also see that you removed Varpulis name from the list - not suspicious of him either? Varpulis + youngmini + unichan got a little thing going on ? | ||
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stefftastiq
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About me not having written anything about prplz and dementrio is that Ive felt they have had pretty townish behaviour - Varpulis points out that pprplz started the wagon against sinani, which might be something - altho I was pretty convinced of sinani myself. ill put a pressure vote originalname for now - youngminii still second on my scummylist, what is suspicious is that if scum just "hide" in ON's vote or would they try to find another target if he really is scum? ##Vote: OriginalName | ||
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stefftastiq
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Actually the names were all the people that were voting Sinani. unichan was also on that list when you wrote it. Varpulis probably decided later | ||
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stefftastiq
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and even pointing out points so almost i get sucked into it i still want to pressure youngminiii a bit more you did point out a bit to much that you defended sinani... ##Unvote ##Vote youngminiii | ||
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stefftastiq
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Thats one excellent post sir - some people are just able to write things crystal clear! on the "pressure vote" issue - right now all votes are for one player - and my vote for youngminii which i wanted to do to pressure him, in the fashion you mention - shouldn't town spread out their votes more, try to pressure more players at the same time (or is this a good idea?) - its pretty easy for the scum to hide when only one player is a target at once - they are probably just going with it watching town team up on their own (maybe not in the ON case) also this could probably lead to more content being put into the game - maybe then it would be less of posting just to post, without no real content - cause there probably are limits to the amount of analysis and conclusions to be made out of a fairly restricted amount of posts as far as i see it. @youngminiii i still think you left your defence out - why did you really say "yo if sinani flips green - im green" (short summary of your post) - cause thats obviously superscummy, and if you really were town, theres no real good reason to say it anyways? | ||
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stefftastiq
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Yeah, my reasons were probably not the best - but atleast I was honest about that in my post - im suspicious about both of them - in the nextpost I also included @youngminii while reading back I also see that you removed Varpulis name from the list - not suspicious of him either? Varpulis + youngmini + unichan got a little thing going on ? Cause this is what I was suspicious about - and now you probably saw that and thought that you will fire back at one that you almost bandwagoned day1 because of my inactivity. Then more people became more suspicious about you - and ON - new scum trio - youngminii, varpulis, ON ? - you also try to break down my bad english - thats ok, Ill explain. + Show Spoiler + About me not having written anything about prplz and dementrio is that Ive felt they have had pretty townish behaviour - Varpulis points out that pprplz started the wagon against sinani, which might be something - altho I was pretty convinced of sinani myself. this is not a defence about something - I pointed out that you said pprplz started the wagon - NOW i ofcourse see that you might have said this to draw attention to prpplz instead of yourself - which makes sense if you are scum. the part about sinani - well - i thought he was scum, he wasnt - he didnt do -anything- to make me think otherwise, which sux (i was asleep when he claimed vet and people started thinking - voting limit is 0400 AM in Norway - im just up way to late because of inside the game tonight) The pressurevote issue was something kavdragon discussed in his post earlier - he explained it well - i wanted to put pressure on more than one player - but it became kinda useless when there were 5 votes on ON and 1 on YM - as he didnt really seem to care - and to be honest my case were really weak, except for him saying in advance that he defended sinani - and by that he he is green. My posts might also be bad - Im working on it right now i think the scum is youngminii Varpulis OriginalName All three of you seem to avoid yourself as a subject - and rather try to push for votes at other players. | ||
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stefftastiq
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Why should I defend myself unnecessarily against bad arguments when I'm not even up for a lynch? My time is better spent finding scum than self reflecting. That was exactly what I thought when i just read your post about me :[ you might just be semi-red i would -really- like to see some thoughs about the people from unichan and dementrio which has hardly said something through the whole game. hestmyrr had a good pretty townish post if i remember right - and dementio made one later on but unichan - u still hiding? #Unvote #Vote unichan | ||
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stefftastiq
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looking through the thread there are hardly any posts from unichan whatsoever - which makes him hard to read - he posted early on that he was on a match competition - but he returned (jeejee actually posted that he would not post until after the math comp - might be checked by random, but he also could have wondered where his scum buddy was?) Would really like to know unichans opinion on: Varpulis, youngminii, originalename and jeejee time to stand up unichan | ||
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stefftastiq
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I'm sorry man but the arguments just don't make sense. If you pressure someone, you really do have to make it real pressure. You listed some reasons against me and then moved on. If I were scum, I could just ignore you and your accusations and be safe because you would just move on to someone else. I never felt pressured by your 'pressure' at any point during this game. I don't think you're scum though. Thats why i kept on asking why you really pre-claimed your "innosence" when saying if sinani is green im green thingy - i tried to pressure - didnt seem like the rest of the town found that as scummy as I did - so i let it go, for now. Your "defences" are just saying that the analysis or the points beeing made against you are bad - which is the easy way of course... cause you seem to get off the hook by just saying it. Also Im not moving on, im just adding more people the the scumbox, i hink both you and ON are scummy - im insecure about varpulis, and unichan hasnt really got anything to say if hes scum or town - cause hes not posting anything. Thats what I'm trying to get him to do. as for the rest, prplz, palmar, kav and dementrio and jeejee - theres absolutely no way to beeing certain that these guys are town - but as for now, it seems like atleast some of them are helping town in a good way, but ofcourse that could be easy to fake if you know townies are a bit confused :p I'll be checking in after work! and @Palmar - welcome to Norway? :-D | ||
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stefftastiq
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Altho I also hoped unichan atleast would try to do an effort to claim his innosence! My vote remains for him for now, seeing no reason to change it... ON and YM are stil scummy too. Ill read through the last posts a bit more to see if theres anything I can put together to contribute as well, without really recycling JeeJee and Kavs posts.. | ||
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stefftastiq
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Yeah, I was hoping for more spread votes as well. @unichan what up man - you around? @OriginalName My Defense: Id like to first of all point out some similarities between today and yesterday: -This bandwagon is being formed rediculously easily. -Most people are sheeping of the reasons of one person. half the players are suspicious of you man. -They will if I go through both be silly mislynches. Im going to focus on the first point mainly. In this case the most coherently explained and analysed non-sheeping opinion is from Kavdragon. He took what he thought to be scum and organised and presented it. He honestly succeded in scaring the metaphorical crap out of me. I dont deal with pressure well and came up with a shoddy defense. Therefore I after I basically had the majority of town gunning for me I panicked but Ive come to realize that theres no reason it should have happenes that fast. Sure JeeJee tryed to defend me but lets face the fact that it justs looks like a scumbuddy trying to save me. However if I were scum why put that risk to try to save me? Im have the most heat on me atm if it were me Would have kept my trap shut and bussed. There is one thing that is 100% certain - if you and him were town, he can not know for certain that your not scum. I then chose to throw another lynch candidate out there. I chose to do this to try to give another option to us but I did not explain that at all as you can clearly see. So now I really have no idea what to do, I'm having a hard enough time articulating what im trying to say at the moment, as such if there is anything specific youd like addressed please ask. I have absolutely nothing to hide from town. seems like quite a few players -including- originalname switched his vote for unichan (would scum vote for their own?) - so right now I feel originalname is a safer lynch. ##Unvote ##Vote OriginalName | ||
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stefftastiq
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Who do you think are the most scummy player(s) - and why? and scum are really the only ones who should worry about what to post - townies doesnt have to lie. | ||
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stefftastiq
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OriginaName: I actually moved my vote from unichan and back to you just based on that you changed your vote from Palmar to unichan, which I stated earlier. Nice presentation of the bandwagon lists tho. | ||
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stefftastiq
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Like i said, I have no better reason for voting for originalname that for unichan since they both seem scummy - I have no problem chaning back - unichan is the least active player anyways - and his post seemed a bit like hes been giving up?  ##Unvote ##Vote unichan Altho I probably wouldnt have changed this vote if it werent for Kav and prplhz - so if unichan turns up green that would be pretty shitty... On the other hand - weve heard little from varpulis and jeejee the last hours. | ||
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stefftastiq
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I'll man up, np - I just want to get the right man - and not be screwed over by beeing played into some mafia scum plan again and left out by the ones not posting anything (which was what happened in SNMMII) if its ON or Unichan - like I said, I honestly dont care - Kav said he was 99% he was noob town - I'll give ON that chance - even tho I think he is scum. | ||
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stefftastiq
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you changed your vote of the same reason man, chill. i think they both are scum - kav might be too - ive been swapping votes between unichan,ym and on to see what happends all day long - just trying out strategies - hoping to call out the scum. Kav made a few excellent posts - He might have seen the game was full of noobs and flexed his skills to shape the game the way scum wanted it - if unichan or on, whoever gets lynched turn up to be green, kav should probably be looked into a bit more... there is no room for that just now? you mention an excellent point about the timezones since americans are pretty much -always- calling eu people inactive as soon as we are sleeping or whatever, but now both you, me and palmar (Atleast just recently) were here and its 4AM - while the evening people seem to be gone dementrio, varpulis and jeejee all seem to be quite silent. | ||
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