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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
May 29 2011 09:47 GMT
#60
/in
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 05 2011 20:33 GMT
#300
On June 06 2011 01:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
DeMorcef thanks a lot, how do you check it? or do you just remember?
+ Show Spoiler +


1. Munk-E
2. blackone
amazingxkcd
6. teamsolid
8. Alderan
10. Drazerk has voted but not posted
15. TranceStorm
18. monsterDrakar
21. supersoft
23. Xedat
24. grush57
25. Date_Reaper
26. CjrNinja
33. Clicker
34. Kairo
36. gtrsrs
38. tdAdonis
40. GGQ


UPDATED LIST plz ignore the previous one, credits to morcerf <3


this list doesn't tell anything about the people on the list... Maybe they're just lurking like I was.
You can delete me from that list btw.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 05 2011 20:52 GMT
#302
On June 06 2011 05:37 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 05:33 supersoft wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
DeMorcef thanks a lot, how do you check it? or do you just remember?
+ Show Spoiler +


1. Munk-E
2. blackone
amazingxkcd
6. teamsolid
8. Alderan
10. Drazerk has voted but not posted
15. TranceStorm
18. monsterDrakar
21. supersoft
23. Xedat
24. grush57
25. Date_Reaper
26. CjrNinja
33. Clicker
34. Kairo
36. gtrsrs
38. tdAdonis
40. GGQ


UPDATED LIST plz ignore the previous one, credits to morcerf <3


this list doesn't tell anything about the people on the list... Maybe they're just lurking like I was.
You can delete me from that list btw.

This post can be treated like it never happened,You know? What are Your thoughts on freeloader bandwagon? Who's Your scum suspect #1?


I don't have a scum suspect on day1. It's too early to judge anyone.
It's just not reasonable to randomlynch someone in the first round, before we got to know each other a little bit.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 22:17:00
June 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#309
On June 06 2011 06:13 heist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 05:33 supersoft wrote:
On June 06 2011 01:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
DeMorcef thanks a lot, how do you check it? or do you just remember?
+ Show Spoiler +


1. Munk-E
2. blackone
amazingxkcd
6. teamsolid
8. Alderan
10. Drazerk has voted but not posted
15. TranceStorm
18. monsterDrakar
21. supersoft
23. Xedat
24. grush57
25. Date_Reaper
26. CjrNinja
33. Clicker
34. Kairo
36. gtrsrs
38. tdAdonis
40. GGQ


UPDATED LIST plz ignore the previous one, credits to morcerf <3


this list doesn't tell anything about the people on the list... Maybe they're just lurking like I was.
You can delete me from that list btw.


This list is meant to pressure people into posting. It's meant to highlight the people that are lying low and "lurking". I expect mafia, esp in a game with so many inexperienced users, to try to remain innocuous and not garner much attention on the early game. A townie would not feel as much pressure and wouldn't care about this list. You, however, seem really concerned about getting off this list.

You say its too early to judge anyone especially before we get to really know anyone. But how do you expect us to judge you if your posts are meaningless (unless you dont want us to judge you)? How you post and your response to accusations and early votes are the only means we have to go on. Currently your posts as Kurumi states are pure fluff. They tell us nothing about you and seem like you're just trying to just accomplish your post quota without saying anything.




and that's bad because? I don't get your point. If someone wants to expose himself, he may do so. I won't, because if I do so, either Mafia shoots me at night, or town lynchs me at day - depending on what I am, or what you guys think I am.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 05 2011 22:36 GMT
#312
okay I didn't know I have to vote... sorry for that.
But since I have to, I voted monsterDrakar.

I voted for him because he voted against theawesomeall with a poor reason. I think theawesomeall -with his list - is obviously a scary player for mafiosi and other people that don't want to be in the spotlight. At first, I was a bit shocked too, when I saw my name at the lurkerlist. But now I think it's the right move to really start this. So I think monsterDrakar is scum and wants to undermine the credibility of someone who puts some facts on the table.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 06 2011 12:31 GMT
#399
guys this is getting really complicated with these XXL posts :D
i'll draw a mindmap of all this when i am at home. when does the night beginn?
(typing this from my iphone)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 06 2011 23:06 GMT
#556
Guys, basically you stated two points against rookie:

1. He wanted to know whether there are strategies, more experienced players usually use in former games. That doesn't mean he's mafia just because he wants to know the strategy. Anyone needs these informations. blues needs it, to know who to check/heal; mafia needs it to know who to frame/kill and the greens have to know the strategy to lynch correctly... So I think this doesn't mean anything

2. He has been quiet since this post. Well, some of us just don't have the time to be active in this thread 24/7. I spend my whole day in university learning taxlaw. That doesn't make anyone suspicious.

I heard every possible argument against and in favor already for anyone in here.
If someone posts and analyses much he's suspicious, because he tries to be a good townie - on the other hand if someone is really quiet he's suspicious because he is no good townie...
If someone votes aggressively against someone, he's suspicious because he wants to kill - if he doesn't vote he's suspicious because he doesn't want anyone to get lynched.
Moreover we got reds and blues, both don't want their roles to be known, so everyone pretends to be a green townie... It's a mess...
I just want to say, that we have to be careful with soft-points like activity etc.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 06 2011 23:26 GMT
#563
yes I can explain myself. I judged over monsterDrakar too quick. I am used to the sc2 mafia, where everything has to be very quick and most votes happen to be intentional...
Despite of that, I will stick to my vote, since monsterDrakar obviously won't be lynched and I really don't know who to vote for, as I described in my last post.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 07 2011 12:25 GMT
#679
On June 07 2011 18:52 Jackal58 wrote:
Shit. Sorry Rookie. And no. I am not the best player in this game. If you have that in your head flush it out now. I already said I suck on day 1 and 2. I made a case. I was wrong. All I can do is move on.


i told you guys that it was stupid. we should have someone inactive get hanged. that mediclynch was either retarded or done by the mafia.
if the mafia stood behind that, i think they wanted to draw attention from their newby-member freeload. he would have been lynched if rookie wasn't... i am not sure about that, but it might be.

i also don't buy the "i am bad the first two days" thing. from now on noone should trust these accusations against newby player just because they ask something related to how the mafiatalk works or what strategy may be used...
arguments for lynching someone should be based on his votings and his accusations
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#683
exactly. DTs should check these three guys that jumped on the bandwagon at the exact same time. kurumi and these other guys. someone mentioned it earlier in this thread. but searching posts with my iphone is super painful. at least i still don't trust jackal. i think his excuse "bad the first days" means: dont lynch me i'll get valuable for you.
noone wanted to lynch him, so why should he defend himself like this? explain yorself, jackal!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 07 2011 12:56 GMT
#689
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 07 2011 21:45 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 21:25 supersoft wrote:
On June 07 2011 18:52 Jackal58 wrote:
Shit. Sorry Rookie. And no. I am not the best player in this game. If you have that in your head flush it out now. I already said I suck on day 1 and 2. I made a case. I was wrong. All I can do is move on.


i told you guys that it was stupid. we should have someone inactive get hanged. that mediclynch was either retarded or done by the mafia.
if the mafia stood behind that, i think they wanted to draw attention from their newby-member freeload. he would have been lynched if rookie wasn't... i am not sure about that, but it might be.

i also don't buy the "i am bad the first two days" thing. from now on noone should trust these accusations against newby player just because they ask something related to how the mafiatalk works or what strategy may be used...
arguments for lynching someone should be based on his votings and his accusations

Don't really care what you're buying. How the hell would mafia know he was a medic?



i never said, that mafia knew that he was a medic. my theory was they wanted to draw votes away from freeload. your credibility will continue to fade away even more, if you keep avoiding the facts and just tell irrelevant things like that mafia couldn' knew tgat he was med. mafia at least knew that he wasn't mafia.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 07 2011 16:09 GMT
#705
as the third medic, i'll heal kuru anyway. ooooops
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 08 2011 21:40 GMT
#872
I going to vote for iGrok now. I believe he's scum. For several reasons.


First reason:
I thought about who might be the person who leads the mafia - whether he's also GF or not doesn't matter for me right now.

To my mind came 3 persons who dominated the scene at the first day:

Kurumi, Jackal and iGrok.

Now to the differences between these three players:

Kurumi is very aggressive and gets into everyones face every time he posts something. He was against the freeloaderlynch and sceptical about the rookielynch. But he proposed several alternativelynches.

Jackal was also against the freeloaderlynch, and he proposed to lynch rookie instead. No good move if you are GF/mafia if you know that freeloader also is townie... Why should you draw votes from a townie to another townie... That's just stupid...

iGrok just posted some informations etc. and he asked for a DT-check on Kurumi.

___________________________

iGrok was the most passive player out of the three. Of course he was! as scum he knew exactly that rookie and freeloader were innocent, so he could easily sit back and watch the town lynch each other. He just hadn't do anything. In fact it would have been stupid to really push for a Kurumilynch. He just tried to make him look suspicious, to draw attention from himself: Of course a DT check on Kurumi would be negative. But no problem, iGrok still could say that Kurumi is the GF.

Second reason

This shit convinced me
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2011 13:03 GGQ wrote:
GGQ's big post of epicness in case he dies tonight (which I've just realised I dont have enough time to make as long as I want Trust me that it's smart and good:

No one undertook the exercise I set of looking at who defended and attacked lafali and why. I'm very disappointed, guys. You all get 0/2 on your homework for today. The veteran players are all going to be dead before this game is nearly over, and you guys need to practice working on how to actually find scum, not just accuse people based on neutral tells. Keep your heads up, don't get discouraged. Look at contradictions in talk and behavior. Look at people who are skating by with posts that just repeat previous content. These are the scummy players.

The point was to lead you to Kurumi and iGrok above everyone else. Kurumi attacks lafali for his bandwagon vote bringing nothing new to the table on freeloader. There was absolutely no reason for him to throw scum on lafali so early in the game if he's mafia. Plus his aggressiveness and balls-out attitude are more inline with a green than anything else. Kurumi is most likely town.

iGrok defends lafali as probably newb town. He's the only one who defends lafali straight out, but Vain, aprudds, monsterDrakar, and Senj also soft-defend him. I'm not saying they are all scum, but it's a great place to look for scum (dts take note! vigis save your shots). At this point in time I think iGrok is almost certainly the godfather of the mafia team (it could be jackal as well but his behavior doesn't fit the role as well, and seems more in line with the town play I've seen from him). iGrok defends lafali after Kurumi calls him out and votes for him, while before this accusation he posted that everyone who had voted so far ( which included lafali) should be under suspicion. Contradiction. iGrok has also been working to get into a town-leadership and thread-presence position all game, something the godfather always tries to do. iGrok also got way too defensive after being attacked and accused.

Other suspicious people to me: Vain, partly for defending lafali, partly for advocating the lynch on freeloader for 'information' blehhhhh I already posted about that, and partly because iGrok listed him as a skilled vet with him, me and jackal when I think he's quite new and I havent seen anything particularly good from him. iGrok probably wanted another mafia on that list, though.

Of course jimbooo whom I voted Day 1, for reasons already stated by multiple players.

Others are monsterDrakar and Senj. xkcd has decreased on my scum meter lately but isn't totally clear.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 08 2011 21:46 GMT
#874
CjrNinja, Xedat and freeloader, go vote iGrok. I expect you guys to be town.
_______________

CjrNinja was the first one who accused lafali

Xedat is just a nice guy

and freeloader is obviously the noobtownguy. If he were mafia, he'd be pretty intelligent with his first post, but I don't think so :-D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 08 2011 22:07 GMT
#876
On June 09 2011 06:55 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:40 supersoft wrote:
I going to vote for iGrok now. I believe he's scum. For several reasons.


First reason:
I thought about who might be the person who leads the mafia - whether he's also GF or not doesn't matter for me right now.

To my mind came 3 persons who dominated the scene at the first day:

Kurumi, Jackal and iGrok.

Now to the differences between these three players:

Kurumi is very aggressive and gets into everyones face every time he posts something. He was against the freeloaderlynch and sceptical about the rookielynch. But he proposed several alternativelynches.

Jackal was also against the freeloaderlynch, and he proposed to lynch rookie instead. No good move if you are GF/mafia if you know that freeloader also is townie... Why should you draw votes from a townie to another townie... That's just stupid...

iGrok just posted some informations etc. and he asked for a DT-check on Kurumi.

___________________________

iGrok was the most passive player out of the three. Of course he was! as scum he knew exactly that rookie and freeloader were innocent, so he could easily sit back and watch the town lynch each other. He just hadn't do anything. In fact it would have been stupid to really push for a Kurumilynch. He just tried to make him look suspicious, to draw attention from himself: Of course a DT check on Kurumi would be negative. But no problem, iGrok still could say that Kurumi is the GF.

Second reason

This shit convinced me
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2011 13:03 GGQ wrote:
GGQ's big post of epicness in case he dies tonight (which I've just realised I dont have enough time to make as long as I want Trust me that it's smart and good:

No one undertook the exercise I set of looking at who defended and attacked lafali and why. I'm very disappointed, guys. You all get 0/2 on your homework for today. The veteran players are all going to be dead before this game is nearly over, and you guys need to practice working on how to actually find scum, not just accuse people based on neutral tells. Keep your heads up, don't get discouraged. Look at contradictions in talk and behavior. Look at people who are skating by with posts that just repeat previous content. These are the scummy players.

The point was to lead you to Kurumi and iGrok above everyone else. Kurumi attacks lafali for his bandwagon vote bringing nothing new to the table on freeloader. There was absolutely no reason for him to throw scum on lafali so early in the game if he's mafia. Plus his aggressiveness and balls-out attitude are more inline with a green than anything else. Kurumi is most likely town.

iGrok defends lafali as probably newb town. He's the only one who defends lafali straight out, but Vain, aprudds, monsterDrakar, and Senj also soft-defend him. I'm not saying they are all scum, but it's a great place to look for scum (dts take note! vigis save your shots). At this point in time I think iGrok is almost certainly the godfather of the mafia team (it could be jackal as well but his behavior doesn't fit the role as well, and seems more in line with the town play I've seen from him). iGrok defends lafali after Kurumi calls him out and votes for him, while before this accusation he posted that everyone who had voted so far ( which included lafali) should be under suspicion. Contradiction. iGrok has also been working to get into a town-leadership and thread-presence position all game, something the godfather always tries to do. iGrok also got way too defensive after being attacked and accused.

Other suspicious people to me: Vain, partly for defending lafali, partly for advocating the lynch on freeloader for 'information' blehhhhh I already posted about that, and partly because iGrok listed him as a skilled vet with him, me and jackal when I think he's quite new and I havent seen anything particularly good from him. iGrok probably wanted another mafia on that list, though.

Of course jimbooo whom I voted Day 1, for reasons already stated by multiple players.

Others are monsterDrakar and Senj. xkcd has decreased on my scum meter lately but isn't totally clear.



So, he is the most passive, which could also mean he is a blue and then later in another post, you try to get other people to bandwagon with You. Not saying whether iGrok is mafia or town/blue, but u do have good analysis of those players. Inb4 grush57 is trying to defend iGrok, he is scum!


i didn't think of that possibility that he's blue to be honest.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 08 2011 22:14 GMT
#877
But I don't think he's blue. If he was blue, somebody else must be the leading mafioso. I don't believe, that there is no mafia member that tries to influence the town. Can't be all lurkers.
I named the other two persons, and I believe I am still correct with my accuse.

It's not like I say he must be GF because he said: "blablabla"
I say he's GF because the other two that come to my mind are in my eyes innocent.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 09 2011 08:17 GMT
#940
i read some parts of amazings wall of text and I don't buy his story. he defends himself an igork and accuses jackal. kurumi and some other obvious townies are named as such, but only because hes right about these guys doesn't mean he's not lying abot himself and igork.
__________________

i suggest to lynch igork first. if he was mafia we may lynch amazing afterwards.
reason for that: igork is much more likely the GF than amazing. and if GF is gone, our DT checks will be 100% accurate and not completely useless as they are right now.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 09 2011 08:21 GMT
#941
On June 09 2011 17:09 Xedat wrote:
My vote stays on amazingxkcd.
I read through 80% of it and what is strange to me is that he calls everyone that is under slight suspicion scum, additionally he says pyo and jackal are scum. But then, not a word on iGrok? Really? Why analyze the posting of most players but leave the most discussed about with nothing at all.
Also, Drazerk and Jimboo, I am not forgetting about you. Say something or the streets around you will be painted crimson.


our vigi can shoot amazing. we have to get rid of the GF and amazing is not the gf.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 09 2011 08:38 GMT
#944
yes and i am convinced that i gorks lynch and turn-out to be mafia would give us a ton of informations + Dt checks would be accurate since i think if hes scum hes also GF.

amazing not so much... except for his XXL post, there was nothing viable before he was accused to be scum...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 09 2011 19:50 GMT
#969
haha, since i believe that both iGrok and amazinxdc are scum, it'll be super interesting to see who voted last ;-)
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