TL Mafia XL - Page 47

On June 09 2011 12:10 Sprungjeezy wrote:
I really do appreciate your input Heist.

But I wish to add something to our discussion.

iGrok's "defence". He conceded, there is either too much against him, or he hopes the town would be forgiving/forgetful - as we may end up being today. This is why we NEED to vote him NOW instead of tomorrow. I do realize that he could easily be a townie trying to be "helpful" but for an experienced player I feel he is drawing TOO much attention to himself. That plus GGQ's post, plus my analysis (which actually cemented my feelings FURTHER) and the fact that he is not defending himself are shutting the case for my opinion.

On June 09 2011 13:34 Pyo wrote:
Jesus christ!!! I applaud your effort, but it's really misplaced you really expect people to read through all that? I haven't gotten through all of it, but your analysis of jackal (the only part that wasn't properly spoilered) is bad.

You're taking whether or not he was even going to participate as a sign of his role? WTF? And people called me tunneling iGrok bad analysis...

You pick on jackal saying kurumi is insane as an indication of jackal trying to condemn or discredit him. That's wrong, go read kurumi's posting in XXXIX. He IS insane. I think even he'd admit it.

Jackal pointing out rookie would be extremely dangerous for the god father to do. I mean why take that risk when he could have one of the other mafia do it or even wait for a townie to make a false accusation.

Jackal says DT checks will return townie. That is not wrong. blues are townies too.

"Ok, how can Jackal knows that Kurumi is scum if Freeloader is scum? If freeloader is scum, then Kurumi isn’t necessary that of a scum. Jackal then adds the second sentence as a insurance policies to himself. If Freeloader flips townie, then Kurumi is townie and most of the bandwagoners is scummy. Why does Jackal not say that? He lied here, and we know Mafia has to lie to win this game."
- like for real? That is absurd.


Bottom line this huge ass post is just a distraction filled with garbage analysis... and I haven't read the spoilered parts yet.

On June 09 2011 13:55 Pyo wrote:



You think I'm scum?!? I'm kind of excited now. I starting to think that there was no way I could make it less obvious that I was town to the point I was really worried I was going to get mafia killed by becoming a confirmed townie.

Also I have no idea whether jackal is scum or not. He could be but honestly that doesn't really matter right now. Even if he is scum considering his mistake about rookie, he has limited sway over town right now, so he's somewhat lower on the we-should-lynch-right-now list certainly below iGrok and yourself.

ROFL just read your analysis of me. I'm not gonna bother defending myself against it, but if someone wants to have fun they can go ahead and do it. In fact, I encourage everyone to read it - it's just that funny. The only thing I'll point out is that many of the quotes attributed to me were quotes within my posts - xkcd messed all the nesting up.

On June 09 2011 14:28 Aril wrote:Yeah.. probably over 75% false positives.

On June 08 2011 13:03 GGQ wrote:
GGQ's big post of epicness in case he dies tonight (which I've just realised I dont have enough time to make as long as I want Trust me that it's smart and good:

No one undertook the exercise I set of looking at who defended and attacked lafali and why. I'm very disappointed, guys. You all get 0/2 on your homework for today. The veteran players are all going to be dead before this game is nearly over, and you guys need to practice working on how to actually find scum, not just accuse people based on neutral tells. Keep your heads up, don't get discouraged. Look at contradictions in talk and behavior. Look at people who are skating by with posts that just repeat previous content. These are the scummy players.

The point was to lead you to Kurumi and iGrok above everyone else. Kurumi attacks lafali for his bandwagon vote bringing nothing new to the table on freeloader. There was absolutely no reason for him to throw scum on lafali so early in the game if he's mafia. Plus his aggressiveness and balls-out attitude are more inline with a green than anything else. Kurumi is most likely town.

iGrok defends lafali as probably newb town. He's the only one who defends lafali straight out, but Vain, aprudds, monsterDrakar, and Senj also soft-defend him. I'm not saying they are all scum, but it's a great place to look for scum (dts take note! vigis save your shots). At this point in time I think iGrok is almost certainly the godfather of the mafia team (it could be jackal as well but his behavior doesn't fit the role as well, and seems more in line with the town play I've seen from him). iGrok defends lafali after Kurumi calls him out and votes for him, while before this accusation he posted that everyone who had voted so far ( which included lafali) should be under suspicion. Contradiction. iGrok has also been working to get into a town-leadership and thread-presence position all game, something the godfather always tries to do. iGrok also got way too defensive after being attacked and accused.

Other suspicious people to me: Vain, partly for defending lafali, partly for advocating the lynch on freeloader for 'information' blehhhhh I already posted about that, and partly because iGrok listed him as a skilled vet with him, me and jackal when I think he's quite new and I havent seen anything particularly good from him. iGrok probably wanted another mafia on that list, though.

Of course jimbooo whom I voted Day 1, for reasons already stated by multiple players.

Others are monsterDrakar and Senj. xkcd has decreased on my scum meter lately but isn't totally clear.

On June 08 2011 13:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
GGQ was out walking around thinking about the failed lynch. He’d been around the block a few times and was trying to get his thoughts in order for the next day. Suddenly he heard a noise in the bushes, two black figures slipped out. GGQ immediately knew what came next, he’d seen the results many times before. “So this is how it ends?” He asked. His only response was the sinister click of hammers being pulled back. “Well” sighed GGQ laconically, “I’m glad I was thought dangerous enough to kill so early.” Two silenced bullets were his only reply.

Across town DeMorcerf was drinking at his favorite bar, it had been a long day and he was trying to drown out the thoughts of the failed lynch. Looking at the clock DeMorcerf realized it was getting late and decided to start back home. He got about four blocks from the bar when a black SUV with tinted windows drove up next to him. DeMorcerf sensed trouble and tried to throw himself into a culvert but he wasn’t quick enough. A quick burst of automatic fire sounded and DeMorcerf was left lying in a pool of his own blood.

GGQ the Townie has been killed
DeMorcerf the Townie has been killed

It is now day 2! You have 48 hours to vote on a lynch