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Since nobody said I shouldn't, here are my notes on the game so far. I'll see you all sometime this evening.
+ Show Spoiler [Player Notes] + *These are my personal thoughts so far. If you don't agree with them, deal with it. I'm not always right.*
Kurumi -Usual erratic posting style, tough to analyze. Has actually been contributing in a meaningful way. Most likely town
Karshe -Overwhelmed by size of game. Appears when called for lurking. Has since disappeared. Uncertain
Mr. Wiggles -Uncertain
deskscaress -Doesn't feel his role will be particularly useful. Strong personality. Could be either scum or town
GMarshal -Defended Mataza when there was no real pressure on him. Contributing without contributing. When I point out his scumminess and vote him, he comes in with an excuse for being inactive over the next few weeks. Suspicious.
Palmar -Disagrees with role claim, supports analysis. Strange fistpound thing with several players. Advocates shooting useless townies for information. Claims I am scum because I am giving off "maf vibes", but doesn't bother to provide any real evidence or analysis. Got around to posting actual analysis. It was rather weak, and mostly blamed me for posting fluff and spamming. Suggests a vigi shot on Mataza and Varpulis, as well as a DT check on Jackal58, three other players on my suspect list. This doesn't make sense if they are all scum. Possible third party. He doesn't quite fit town or scum. Suspicious.
Fistpound List
Returned offer by Palmar GMarshal Node tnkted Kurumi sandroba
Offered it to Palmar without being asked VisceraEyes Mataza
Ignored invitation from Palmar Amber[Light] redFF Meapak_Zipph Eternalmisfit DropBear
Eternalmisfit -Inexperienced player. Attempting analysis, sometimes weak. Has good ideas when he's around, keeps discussion focused and on track. Most likely town.
sandroba -Proposed claiming who we created roles for. Reacted strongly to pressure, but after initial scumminess has not done anything strange. Plan would probably not have been put forward by mafia, as it draws too much attention. Overall not giving me a scummy feel. Too few of his posts are suspicious Most likely town
kitaman27 -Mildly aggressive. Contributing more than in XXXIX, where he was scum. Not as accusatory as in XXXIX. Most likely town.
Kenpachi -Uncertain
Tackster -Minimalist contributor. Reiterated what other players had already said. Lurked, made one large post. Claimed he had a migraine and is getting sick as excuses for not posting. Post was fluff at first glance, but on closer examination revealed some helpful comments and opinions. Upon re-reading his posts, he has actually added some good input. Role claimed Most likely town.
Varpulis -Agrees with a variation of sandroba's idea. Has been targeted by many players who feel he is scummy. When multiple players are jumping on one it often leads to scum. Uncertain-possible scum
tnkted -Strange style of play. Unique role allows (requires?) him to vote for players outside the game. Posting has improved in quality. Some question about it still. Uncertain
hiro protagonist -New player, not being obvious. Uncertain
redFF -Claims role will not be useful. Mason-type role. Lying scum or dumb townie. Not up to usual standards. Posting has drastically improved in quality. Good contributions. Most likely town.
sinani206 -Called for hit on him, saying that something good for town would happen. Town
Node -Good posts. Has defended me. Has been pro-town, but in a way that feels somewhat cautious to me. Very soft defense of GM when I asked for his thoughts. Defended me when Palmar called for a vigi hit without analysis. The way he is playing I am uncertain. His posting is pro-town, but it feels far too thought-out to be a townies. Will be keeping an eye on him. Uncertain.
bumatlarge -Encouraging discussion and analysis. Claims SK type role as Joker. Either third party or scum.
Mataza -Claims role will not be useful. Defended by GMarshal and Palmar after little pressure. Posting does not feel pro-town. Suspicious
Mig -Lurker. Uncertain
VisceraEyes -New player. Radical accusations and ideas. Scum team would control his posting more. Most likely town.
Amber[LighT] -Ridiculous role restriction. Possibly fake. No way to analyze. Quoted several posts with symbols for his opinion of them. Is unsure of me, sees posts that could lead me to either scum or town, thinks Jackal is town, really thinks Sandroba is scum. Voted Sandroba. For such an inconvenient post restriction he is really trying to contribute. Most likely town.
BloodyC0bbler -Very aggressive player. Stated by many to be pro-town. Experienced player. Possible scum
Torte de Lini -New player. Lurker. Has a history of being extremely active that is not displayed. Possible option for new scum player Uncertain
Cthsazsa -Uncertain
Barundar -Lurker. Experienced player Uncertain
Meapak_Ziphh -Aggressive player, encourages discussion. Genuine deliberation over me, came to the conclusion that I'm town. Has consistently been pro-town. Most likely town.
DropBear -Uncertain
prplhz -New player, seems inexperienced. Would have great difficulty pulling off scum. Most likely town
stefftastiq -New player. Attempting analysis. Most likely town
Rean -Few posts. Feels has been contributing when he has put little forward. I often do the same as town, I am more likely to pay attention to how much I am contributing as scum. Most likely town.
Jackal58 -Usual aggressive play. Tunneling on me, but Jackal always tunnels. Posting feels scummy. Hasn't really contributed. Voted Sandroba without providing reasons. Suspicious
+ Show Spoiler [Alignment Lists] + TOWN -Meapak_Ziphh -prplhz -Rean -Amber[LighT] -Tackster -redFF -Sandroba -sinani206 -EternalMisfit -Kurumi
SUSPICIOUS -GMarshal -Mataza -Jackal58 -Palmar -Varpulis
*This list is not 100% correct, or mafia is making some crazy plays here. Mataza, Jackal, and Palmar can not be on a scum team together, there has been too much conflict/calling for vigi/DT's by Palmar. I would hazard a guess that 1-3 of these names are correctly identifying scum.
THIRD PARTY
UNCERTAIN -Karshe -Kurumi -Mr. Wiggles -deskscaress -Eternalmisfit -sandroba -kitaman27 -Kenpachi -tnkted -hiro protagonist -Node -bumatlarge -Mig -Torte de Lini -Cthsazsa -Barundar -DropBear -stefftastiq
CLAIMED MASON CIRCLE -Jackal58 (claimed BC as well) -bumatlarge -Others
ZODIAC LIST bumatlarge BloodyC0bbler GMarshal Meapak_Ziphh DropBear Node Jackal58 kitaman27 Rean Mr. Wiggles tnkted
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Alright. BC has said we should lynch sinani. If someone still alive created sinani's role, claim it and state exactly what it was. I have a feeling that BC created sinani's role and it is not quite what sinani has stated it to be. Otherwise there would be no reason that BC would not want back in.
I'm voting Mr. Wiggles because any argument for him is stupid. He has been role/mod confirmed as scum.
##Vote: Mr. Wiggles
On June 03 2011 07:29 Palmar wrote: also, about the random shooting.
chaos13 really shot down any arguments against varpulis and I couldn't get any bandwagon going on the guy, so I decided to check what he'd flip, cause this gives me ton of info. And now you'll stop tunneling on me. Thanks.
redFF, I'm waiting on decon to reply to my PM with a question about my role, and if it works out I would suggest you mason me today. If we have another mason role that can invite more than one person at a time, I would also suggest you choose me. However, I will announce when decon PM's me back. Do not add me before then, or I will not be nearly as useful.
Kurumi and bumatlarge are anti-town. One of them is scum, and I think it is bumatlarge. It's incredibly easy to claim roleblock as an excuse. If we had a watcher/tracker on him last night, figure out what you can do to reveal your info without actually giving away your role. What Kurumi said about being roleblocked, that it blocked his role but not his SK powers, makes me even more suspicious of bumatlarge. To add to that, bum is claiming that he has kills as the Joker as well as kills as the SK.
If whoever made Amber[LighT]'s role could please come forward and claim it, that would be extremely helpful to know.
There is also one player I was expecting to come forward with some information that would be extremely useful, and he has posted since the Day began but has not mentioned it. This is rather curious, and it means it either wouldn't be worth posting and bringing attention to himself, or he is scum.
I think that's about all I have to say for the moment.
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Oh, and nobody seems to have made protective roles. With 5 kills, either medic-types completely missed the mark or there are none. -.-
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It says he talked about it with decon though, so maybe he was just allowed to cause the host felt bad for us losing 7 people by Day 2
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On June 03 2011 09:21 redFF wrote: Well i'm waiting on Chaos to tell me what will happen if i pm him. But otherwise I'm thinking of using my role on you cuz I think you're town and since your in a pm circle we could compare reads etc...
Nothing will happen, but I have some info that might be useful. Still no word from decon though. If you want to use it on someone else, don't wait for me. I'll still find a way to use what I know.
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Torte, since you're here right now, do you think GMarshal is scummy?
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Palmar, I'll throw you a fistpound if you shoot bumatlarge tonight.
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On June 03 2011 07:29 Palmar wrote: also, about the random shooting.
chaos13 really shot down any arguments against varpulis and I couldn't get any bandwagon going on the guy, so I decided to check what he'd flip, cause this gives me ton of info.
On June 03 2011 17:13 Palmar wrote:Haha, not a damn chance bro. I will not rest till you get lynched.
Really? You checked what I flip on death, and you still want me lynched? I want to bring everyone's attention to this. I am going to flip green on death, because I am a townie, and death flips don't lie. Either decon messed up or you are lying about what I flip on death, and you either didn't actually check me or you did and are lying about the results. I don't think decon messed up.
If we have a day vig, consider shooting me now.
My flip will reveal Palmar to be scum, and I think my role will be worth a trade for a brofisthdeathray-fistpoundingmafia.
I would suggest the vig shoot Palmar, but at this point nobody is going to believe me until I flip. You guys are letting mafia run this game. We have some people actually listening to Mr. Wiggles when he says he is "nowhere near mod confirmed", we have Palmar playing you guys with his fistpounds and tunneling on me, and the rest doing who knows what, either playing along with the above to or sitting back and lurking their way through the game. We still haven't had anyone confirm Amber's role, so there is absolutely NO way to read him. That is a dangerous game. He needs a DT check tonight.
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Right, I forgot to mention that bum has played us as well. SK is a great excuse for a mafia night kill, which he claimed would be directed at sinani206 last night. He then claims roleblock. As Kurumi has told us, roleblocks do not stop SK's from killing. They block role abilities, but not alignment abilities. That means bum killed someone last night. Kurumi is a third party trying to help out town, he will direct his shots where town want them. bumatlarge is a lying scumface.
For balance purposes, I don't think decon would throw in two SK's, either. There would be far too many KP floating around with all the killing roles it appears we handed out.
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On June 03 2011 07:29 Palmar wrote: also, about the random shooting.
chaos13 really shot down any arguments against varpulis and I couldn't get any bandwagon going on the guy, so I decided to check what he'd flip, cause this gives me ton of info.
I don't dig bro. What about this?
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Palmar, you're also missing the part where I defended VisceraEyes, prplhz, and Sandroba. All of them turned out to be town. Maybe you guys should start listening to me.
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On June 03 2011 23:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 23:44 chaos13 wrote:On June 03 2011 07:29 Palmar wrote: also, about the random shooting.
chaos13 really shot down any arguments against varpulis and I couldn't get any bandwagon going on the guy, so I decided to check what he'd flip, cause this gives me ton of info. I don't dig bro. What about this? I decided to check what Varpulis would flip.I don't have any investigative powers. I investigate with ma guns.
Ah. The way that was worded I understood it to mean you checked what I would flip.
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decon replied with a good answer
redFF, will you mason me?
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On June 04 2011 00:12 Torte de Lini wrote: Palmar: I'm so confused, so much to read @________@! Palmar, can you kill people? If so: your penetrating hit can probably kill serial killers right? Can you confirm this for me, because then you can kill Bum or Kurumi. Save us a day of lynching them, right.
In fact is Palmar here? I am having trouble finding your posts dude.
I mean I guess it's pretty obvious that Wiggles is scum... so I know who I am voting for. But what do we do about
Oh and I wrote for Sandroba if that helps you guys, but everyone knows his role already D:
I need to find that list that was made awhile back.
Chaos13: No, not really, what did he do?
I'm a little suspicious of him for reasons I wrote up earlier (lurking, didn't seem like he was contributing, etc.) and I wanted to get your opinion on him. Thanks for the answer
As for your post, "what do we do about ____"? Looks like it got cut off there.
And I'm not sure what list you are talking about. If it is the zodiac list BC made, here it is, with a few more names added by me.
ZODIAC LIST bumatlarge
BloodyC0bbler GMarshal Meapak_Ziphh DropBear
Node Jackal58 kitaman27 Rean Mr. Wiggles tnkted
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To clear up some confusion about myself and Palmar:
Palmar said he wanted to "check what he would flip", meaning he shot Varpulis. I misinterpreted this to mean that he used a role power to check what I would flip on death. Since I'll flip green on death, I took this to mean that Palmar was scum, because only scum/SK would want to kill a green. I then called for a day vig to hit me so that Palmar's lie would be revealed. However, I am now clear on what he meant, and retract my previous statements about vig hits and Palmar being scum.
I'm clearer on GMarshal today after re-examining things. I think it is unlikely you are scum.
redFF voted me so we can PM each other for today.
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On June 04 2011 11:08 Barundar wrote: Lastly I can't keep track of the PM circles. Is it correct that we have
1. Jackal + Bum 2. GM + Kurumi 3. redFF + Amber?
Today it is redFF and myself. red's PM circles only last for a day.
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#Fistpound: Palmar
Who are you shooting tonight Palmar? Kurumi, bumatlarge, Torte de Lini, or someone else?
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On June 05 2011 05:02 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 04:51 redFF wrote: So what do people think of Torte De Lini, I think the blatant contradiction where he says he thinks GM is town but blocks him is enough for me, but the rest of his nothing posts are just as bad. Wiggles, Torte, Mataza, Rean and maybe Bum seems like the scumteam right now. Why rean? Just curious.
On UG Rean played a game in which he was the godfather and he lurked his way through the entire game without being questioned once. He even started up a casino minigame within the game without having suspicion cast on him. He has the exact same sort of posting style this game.
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red, are we allowed to PM each other for the rest of the cycle, or is it done now?
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On June 05 2011 05:24 kitaman27 wrote: Tough luck Wiggles. Sorries.
Whoever created deskscaress's role should claim as it is likely that mafia was not aware of his ability when they shot him.
DO NOT CLAIM THIS UNTIL DAY 3.
If you claim it now, mafia have a near-confirmed townie to shoot.
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