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On May 30 2011 14:29 Mataza wrote: "Your target is the goddamn Batman" Man, I hope if there is a rolechecker, host has awesome humor and does shit like that. The poor rolechecker is going to hang himself by day 2 lol... | ||
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On May 31 2011 05:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: There honestly isn't a good reason at this point. All it would do is clutter the thread with discussion over things that you can't easily pin a mafia out of. I said this in pyp3 and I shall say it again here. Knowing someones role doesn't determine if they are town or not. Their alignment does. We hunt for scum with analysis and whatever means people gave to players that flipped town. Past that arguing otherwise is wasteful. Lets catch scum, not ghosts. *sniff sniff* | ||
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On May 31 2011 05:58 Varpulis wrote: LAL is in effect. If lie, we kill you. Period. grrrr... | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:06 sandroba wrote: @BC Isn't this only going to give us a vet/good player list for this game. Do you think mafia will purposefully remove their good players from their list? Mine for example would be: # GMarshal # kitaman27 # bumatlarge # Amber[LighT] # BloodyC0bbler # Meapak_Ziphh That's pretty much a list of players we think would be good as mafia no? grrr.... | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:11 GMarshal wrote: Dear god, thats quite a post restriction you have going on there Amber. Unless I'm wrong and you are faking. Are you able to talk normaly? *whines sadly* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:13 Varpulis wrote: Amber, do you actually have a post restriction, or are you just being cute? *whines sadly* On May 31 2011 06:13 redFF wrote: Yeah AMber either post normally or someone gave you a role where you can only talk like a dog. *whines sadly* On May 31 2011 06:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote: He's a dog! . *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:15 hiro protagonist wrote: Amber is a guard dog!?!?!?! *wiggles his tail* On May 31 2011 06:16 redFF wrote: lol whoever gave amber a role like that. :D On May 31 2011 06:18 Karshe wrote: Hahahaha, this game is already cracking me up. Whoever gave him the dog role, assuming he is not trolling, is my hero. On May 31 2011 06:16 Kurumi wrote: Ok,looks like Amber is a)A Detective Dog b) Trolling A) is more likely,that means we have some kind of Bullet-bill role. grrr..... On May 31 2011 06:15 GMarshal wrote: Ok, lets assume you are telling the truth and not pulling a BM (in penalty mafia he faked a pr for most of a day). Can you post which expressions, exactly, you are limited to? *sniff sniff...* *woof* *grrrr...* *wiggles his tail* *whines sadly* *barks loudly* *growls* *lies down* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:20 GMarshal wrote: @Amber do you a.) growl at lies? b.) growl at mafia members? c.) none of the above Wag your tail if a. Whine if b. bark if c. *woof* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:24 Varpulis wrote: yeah, but he's getting a dt check tonight, no doubt. We can't leave guy that can't be analyzed unchecked. *lies down* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote: @Amber Your different abilities are just your way of communicating, and display different emotions/reactions, correct? Like growling to show disagreement, barking to draw attention, wiggling your tail to show you agree, etc.? Also, you wagged your tail for being a guard dog, so he's on the right track? *Gives treat* *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:28 hiro protagonist wrote: @ amber: does *wiggles his tail* mean yes? does grrrr... mean no? wiggle for yes, grrrr... for no on both questions *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:29 redFF wrote: ![]() I may as well claim my role. I am a dog whisperer, i will attempt to communicate with Amber. bark bark, grrr, ruff, bark, grrr, ruff ruff bark grr bark grr grr bark ruff bark grr grr. *lies down* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:27 Tackster wrote: Amber your role wouldnt happen to be scooby doo would it? Cos technically scooby could talk ![]() *growls* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:50 hiro protagonist wrote: ok, I think i will take it upon myself to discover what restrictions amber has. I think everyone else should focus on the zodiac list. @Amber , can you only answer on question at a time? *grrr...* On May 31 2011 06:50 redFF wrote: Oh if i was mafia who would I hit? Bumatlarge and GM have both shown strong play in games i have observed/played in. BC has a reputation as a good player too. As for this game i'm getting town vibes off both bum and BC, not so much off GM(This isn't me calling him scum). If i was going to say now who i wanted protected i would say Bum and BC. *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:57 Rean wrote: Sigh. This is silly. The dog appears to be some kind of guard dog, so i'm guessing he acts like a watcher/tracker or something like that. Useful later on, a waste of time for now. As for the LAL plan: no. You lynch people when there is a good reason to do so, not simply because you lied. There could be many reasons that town would be lying, and blindly lynching them for it is not a good idea. The list is unneccesary. People should be capable of deciding for themself who is worth protecting or inspecting, you don't need someone holding your hand telling you what to do. Oh, and props for whoever thought up the dog role, that's just hilarious. *wiggles his tail* *wiggles his tail* *wiggles his tail* *wiggles his tail* *wiggles his tail* *wiggles his tail* On May 31 2011 06:35 sandroba wrote: Alright, as much as I am intrigued by Amber's dog role, that's not leading us nowhere near finding scum. Maybe the person who gave Amber this role will have some info for us down the line. I think we should focus on putting up BC's list and giving your opinion about policy lynches and LAL. Make your posts concise because this thread is quickly turning into a spam fest. *grrr...* *grrr...* *grrr...* *grrr...* *grrr...* *grrr...* *barks loudly* | ||
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On May 31 2011 07:03 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, this might be a better question, @Amber: do you want me to discover what all of your actions mean, or would you rather me focus on other parts of the game not related to you? wiggle if you want me to focus on you. *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 08:28 Varpulis wrote: Alright, let me summarize what I've been saying:
The rest of my posts are either about a bad plan that I've abandoned or Amber. *grrr.....* *grrr.....* | ||
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On May 31 2011 08:54 hiro protagonist wrote: Amber: can you answer these questions for me ![]() *wiggles his tail* *wiggles his tail* *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:11 Varpulis wrote: We're not allowed to claim what role we picked & who we picked it for until day 2, the host said. We can check RedFF's role easily though, by asking Amber. Unless they're both mafia, it'll be accurate. Amber, is RedFF pming you? *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:24 Cthsazsa wrote: redFF, expect your death to come shortly. *grrr....* | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:25 redFF wrote: I pm'd him and his reply was *wiggles my tail* so i assume not. I sent him another pm asking for him to confirm my claim in the thread and also to make sure he wasn't joking about his earlier pm. It's looking like he can't talk normal in pms though. -_- *wiggles my tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:28 redFF wrote: we aren't allowed to talk about who's role we picked, decon said nothing about roleclaiming. Try harder. He just pm'd me again with a *grrr* when i asked if he was kidding. So yeah he can't talk normal in pm land either. Amber if your role pm doesn't explicitly say you have to talk like a dog in pms i think you will be fine to talk normally. *grrr...* .... | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:31 chaos13 wrote: EBWOP: just realized an "or" question won't work well for him. Does your role state that you must speak like this for the ENTIRE game? *wiggles my tail* | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:35 chaos13 wrote: Then I'm not sure why we should keep a player around who can't analyze or be analyzed. Either you're a town player who has no value to us or a lying scum. *barks loudly* | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote: @Amber[Light] Do you have an ability that can help town? @Chaos13 There's no reason to kill off Amber[Light] right now. If he's useless town, shooting or lynching is a waste. If he's scum, then he's already made himself a public figure, and also, is incapable of any misdirection. A simple role or alignment check on him will resolve problems. *lies down* | ||
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On May 28 2011 04:49 deconduo wrote: Voting rules: 4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. *lies down* | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 11:09 chaos13 wrote: Certainly. To begin with is this post: A mason role isn't useful to scum or third party. It is extremely useful to town. This post has some serious issues with me. 1. Dumb roleclaim. It doesn't help us at all - he could have just used his power and then said "k guys I don't think we need to worry about Amber for these reasons ____ without actually having to claim his role. 2. How the hell does he know this? The only way is if he is on a mafia team and they are allowed to share their roles with each other. For all he knows vote-mason could be the best role in the entire game. And then "I know how I can be useful - I'll use my role!" No, really? Brilliant. The rest of his posts have not contained anything overly helpful, and I know from playing on UG with him and observing his games that he is a better player than he is being right now, and that as scum he tends to do stupid things with roleclaims. On May 31 2011 11:31 chaos13 wrote: I feel that my reasons for being suspicious of them are solid. You'll notice that I have not voted for either of them. Seeing as this is a game with no PM's, I have to do all my thinking in the thread. On May 31 2011 11:59 chaos13 wrote: I think that would be a good idea. It will give us some focus. The five I would suggest for this: tnkted - has not been acting entirely pro-town. I definitely want some more input here. Sandroba - I'm still not comfortable with his plan in the beginning. Mataza - Reacted to very light (joking) suspicion at the beginning and was quickly defended (weakly, although lightly) by GMarshal and Palmar Karshe - has posted and clearly read the thread, but has not contributed. Lurker. redFF - reasons already stated What does everyone think of this? On May 31 2011 12:02 chaos13 wrote: Fair enough, let's throw a sixth player on. If nobody has any huge objections to this, I think these players will be a good start. On May 31 2011 12:11 chaos13 wrote: The idea is to take 5 or 6 possible suspects and focus on them so we don't get distracted by the multitude of potential scum. This way we can all coordinate and actually get something done. I looked for lurkers and picked one of them. It happened to be Karshe, but it could have been any of a number of them. On May 31 2011 22:05 chaos13 wrote: I don't feel that either varpulis or kitaman27 are particularly scummy. I think they have definitely made some bad moves as town, but I don't believe they are scum either. Between the two of them, varpulis is more likely to be scum. tnkted is confusing, but that is probably just something to do with his role. How else could he get away with voting someone who isn't actually in the game? ??? The person I would be most comfortable voting for right now is Tackster, because of his lurking and apparent reluctance to contribute. I'm getting a really bad feeling about him, and it's backed up by his posting. *wiggles his tail* + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 12:52 chaos13 wrote: BC is right. You were obviously caught up in the thread, because you were reading the latest posts. If you were catching up, you'd be halfway through. You were called out for lurking and showed up almost immediately after. On May 31 2011 13:03 chaos13 wrote: I don't see where I asked Karshe his thoughts on Mataza. Mataza was on the list I created, as was Karshe. Perhaps he misinterpreted this. Karshe actually did read that his name was there though - he directly said He then went on to state his thoughts on Mataza, but none of the other players on the list with him (me, tnkted, varpulis, redFF). On May 31 2011 22:19 chaos13 wrote: GMarshal, please grace us with your thoughts on varpulis and kitaman27. Do you think they are both scum, just one of them, or none? Why? Between the two, who appears to be more scummy, and why? While you're at it, why don't you tell me why you have consistently harassed people to start contributing without doing so yourself? Also why you mentioned a few times why zodiac lists and the type were useless without reasoning behind the names when you haven't actually given your own thoughts on anyone at all so far. This is your biggest piece of analysis so far: Your posting stance is noncommittal. Your vote commits a lot. What's going on here? The first few questions I asked on varpulis and kita will be a perfect opportunity to start contributing some more btw. Don't forget to answer them. *wiggles his tail* + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 09:46 Jackal58 wrote: I'm well aware of that. I have already stated that I will be taking all role claims with a giant grain of salt. It is also rare for 2 scum to so directly connect to each other. I'm more concerned with your apparent willingness to lynch Amber simply because he speaks dog. I like dogs. ![]() On May 31 2011 11:08 Jackal58 wrote: Thanks. It's sorted. Chaos13 is a pretty sharp cookie. He doesn't make very many harmless oversights. He's worth keeping an eye on. On May 31 2011 11:28 Jackal58 wrote: So first Chaos13 is telling us it's probably a good idea to get rid of an apparent dt role. Now he wants us to kill an apparent mason role. On May 31 2011 21:25 Jackal58 wrote: Lol. I'm not tunneling Chaos. I just wanted everybody to be aware that the two people he fosfed both appear to possess roles scum would not want to have in the game. When I tunnel somebody you and everybody else will know it. And thanks Node. I didn't see the post from Decon regarding scum kp. On May 31 2011 22:20 Jackal58 wrote: Why? Voting is a tool. It serves more than one purpose. *barks loudly* x5 + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote: Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch. On May 31 2011 05:45 sandroba wrote: That's simple to solve. Town should NOT fake role claim. Period. You either not claim or claim your role right. For how this plan helps town: After a couple kills/lynches we won't be able to keep track of who knows which players role. If we have a day1 list there's no room for people fake confirming / lying about someone else's role after some time has passed in the thread an no one claimed to know it. We can also take role claims that cannot be confirmed (perso is dead) with a grain of salt. On May 31 2011 05:54 sandroba wrote: Alright every one seems to dislike the first part of my plan, but no one has commented on policy so far. The first part which we claim what player got our role is just to make policy easier. Either way I say we policy lynch ANYONE who lies about their role. Town has very little reason to lie about their role while mafia has a lot of reasons. What are you guys' opinions about this? On May 31 2011 05:59 sandroba wrote: EBWODP: That should have read we policy lynch ANYONE who claims without valuable information or lies about their role. On May 31 2011 06:35 sandroba wrote: Alright, as much as I am intrigued by Amber's dog role, that's not leading us nowhere near finding scum. Maybe the person who gave Amber this role will have some info for us down the line. I think we should focus on putting up BC's list and giving your opinion about policy lynches and LAL. Make your posts concise because this thread is quickly turning into a spam fest. #vote: Sandroba | ||
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On May 31 2011 23:56 chaos13 wrote: I have to admit, for such an inconvenient post restriction, Amber is really trying to contribute. He most likely isn't faking it (dumb move for scum or town, extremely implausible), and if he was scum, it would be very easy to use that to his advantage as an excuse to avoid giving his opinion on players. He has gained some serious town cred with me for his latest post. Sorry for considering lynching you earlier. ![]() | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:38 redFF wrote: Oh and Amber's Zodiac list Wiggles GM Sandroba kita bum visceraeyes BC Meapak Dropbear Jackal Cesar Milan at your service :D *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On June 02 2011 00:20 GMarshal wrote: Today just exploded with activity for me, and I won't have time to catch up with the thread, I'm still back at page 42 or so. Anyway I won't be back till late tonight as I have a metric tonne of crap I need to get done, I really don't feel confortable voting for anyone in these conditions, since I'm not completely caught up and I don't have time to really look at anyone in depth. I probably won't be up to my usual activity levels till around this time Friday. Sorry people, last two weeks of college and all that -__- ##Unvote ##Vote:GMarshal On May 28 2011 04:49 deconduo wrote: Voting rules: 4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. | ||
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![]() On June 02 2011 06:03 deconduo wrote: "You are the Goddamn Batman. You are the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So the town hunts you because you can take it. You are a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. Role-claming as Batman at any point of the game will get you lynched. However, since you are well disguised as Bruce Wayne, role checks on you come back as Playboy Millionaire. Every night you go ahead and protect the first person being targeted by a KP. However, you are truly incorruptible and do not let scum die out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness and thus protect that person regardless of their alignment. Your Arch-Nemesis, the Joker, is bumatlarge. He knows who you are but can not cause your death. You may not reveal his role nor can he reveal yours. If he dies, you will retire from your life of fighting crime, satisfied that the city is safe." | ||
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On June 03 2011 16:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Bum claimed complete invulnerability, Kurumi claimed SK. SK can survive two night hits. You can't shoot him to death, you have to lynch him. So no, I'm not the clear lynch here. I am not "confirmed" scum, there is no such thing as confirmation, until you flip, I'll say it again. Bum and Sandroba have claimed to be anti-town. There is absolutely no reason that town would claim anti-town. So, you're going to lynch me, who is town, over two as close to confirmed as can be anti-town players? Personally, I believe that Bum is mafia, not SK, and that he can be shot at night. I'll be willing to use my second shot tonight, on Bum, to call his bluff. Kurumi, I believe him when he says he's the Serial Killer. This means, we can't kill him at night, and that he needs to be lynched. So here's what I see in the thread: You want to lynch me, when I'm nowhere near confirmed anti-town, and keep both Kurumi and Bum alive. They are both anti-town, they've claimed so. You're worried about me using a kill tonight, when both Bum and Kurumi should have a kill tonight as an SK. I say: [*]We lynch Kurumi today, to lower night KP [*]I shoot Bum tonight [*]If he's still alive, we lynch him [*]If he dies, you can do whatever you want with me Put down your torches and pitchforks, and look at this logically. There's two people, who are both 100% not town, and you want to keep them around. That doesn't make sense. *barks loudly* #vote: Mr. Wiggles | ||
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On June 03 2011 08:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I'm not confirmed, stop throwing that word around, it's stupid. Scum like to use that word, to hide behind checks, but let me tell you this. The only time you're confirmed, is when you die and flip. There is no other thing that is confirmed. On June 03 2011 09:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Firstly, it's not mod confirmed, I don't get where people got that idea from. It just means the results are what actually came back, not that they're correct about my alignment. I'd also like to see you post more, and with actual substance. You've done basically nothing this game, and it's starting to become pretty suspicious. If you're town, you're not doing a very good job of helping. On June 03 2011 07:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote: How am I confirmed scum? You're going to lynch another green because you don't give things thought and just blindly tunnel. I don't get how no one else is looking at this, and just accepting it blindly as true. That's what scum love to do, hide behind wrong DT checks and ride with easy lynches. Another day wasted. On June 03 2011 15:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Did you not read what I wrote? This isn't a scum master plan. All hits on sinani were redirected to desks, to stop all hits on him, like a bus driver, in order to stop anyone shooting him and reviving BC. This way, no matter how many people shot sinani, no one would hit him. This wasn't an ability that was used on me, it was an ability used on sinani, so if there was a watcher on desks, or even on sinani, now would be a good time to say something if you have relevant information. A frame on me, is completely irrelevant to hits on sinani being redirected to desks. The two things were two different actions, on two different people, that just happened to line up and cause this chaos. Mafia didn't need to know my role. They didn't need to know desk's role. All they needed to believe was that shooting sinani would bring back BC, and that they didn't want that to happen. Also, lynching sinani, seems like a bad idea, don't even bring it up. He's claimed his ability only works on being shot, and so did his role creator. I'm thinking there might a scum with a role that lets him post through dead people, and that explains BC. I discussed a similar idea for a role with some people before the game, so it's not too far fetched. I still wouldn't risk lynching sinani regardless of why BC posted, when anyone who knows anything about the role denies lynching lets him revive people. On June 03 2011 16:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Bum claimed complete invulnerability, Kurumi claimed SK. SK can survive two night hits. You can't shoot him to death, you have to lynch him. So no, I'm not the clear lynch here. I am not "confirmed" scum, there is no such thing as confirmation, until you flip, I'll say it again. Bum and Sandroba have claimed to be anti-town. There is absolutely no reason that town would claim anti-town. So, you're going to lynch me, who is town, over two as close to confirmed as can be anti-town players? Personally, I believe that Bum is mafia, not SK, and that he can be shot at night. I'll be willing to use my second shot tonight, on Bum, to call his bluff. Kurumi, I believe him when he says he's the Serial Killer. This means, we can't kill him at night, and that he needs to be lynched. So here's what I see in the thread: You want to lynch me, when I'm nowhere near confirmed anti-town, and keep both Kurumi and Bum alive. They are both anti-town, they've claimed so. You're worried about me using a kill tonight, when both Bum and Kurumi should have a kill tonight as an SK. I say: [*]We lynch Kurumi today, to lower night KP [*]I shoot Bum tonight [*]If he's still alive, we lynch him [*]If he dies, you can do whatever you want with me Put down your torches and pitchforks, and look at this logically. There's two people, who are both 100% not town, and you want to keep them around. That doesn't make sense. On June 03 2011 16:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I believe Bum is lying, because of how it came out, and also because I don't think kurumi would be dumb enough to claim SK for no reason when there wasn't suspicion on him if he was scum. There's no guarantee that Kurumi is going to do anything to help town, and I highly doubt he will. He's impossible to read, and very erratic. He's already killed a town player, and he'll continue to do so in the future. Even if he agreed to work with town, I don't think we're organized enough to actually give him a good target, and we'll continue to spill green blood. Remove the temptation and the potential now to spare ourselves further suffering down the road. That's my line of thought. It also lets us continue business more quickly, instead of having to waste a lynch on an SK when there's fewer people. *sniff sniff...* + Show Spoiler [mataza] + On June 03 2011 07:17 Mataza wrote: Kurumi use your brain. Cobbler stated that it was all he was allowed to post. So decon prolly forbade him to say "dayvig sinani so I can live" Btw I´m cool with turning the Black Motherfucker back into vanilla. KP and misinformation are antitown in itself. Town wants detective type roles. We have 1 unclaimed kp this night. That means if all the shooters tonight are town and they just did not FUCKING SHOOT SEMIRANDOMLY, we would have only lost 2 guys. Instead we lost 6(Thats a fifth of all our players). If we go by lynching instead of vigishooting we get more nights for role and alignment checks. So for fucks sake don´t shoot people who are unconfirmed. Also, please claim out killpower roles. We have 1 unconfirmed shooting, chances are that the unclaimed shot was done by scum. + Show Spoiler + Redff, last game I answered to every little question asked to me. It cluttered up the thread. Also, I don´t feel any pressure, so you are doing it wrong. If you want to know my every little thought, vote me and ask via pm. People will be annoyed if I write even more On June 03 2011 15:50 Mataza wrote: Talking about what Cobbler said after death is inconclusive. Normally he wouldn´t be allowed to talk after death anyway, so chances are he didn´t do it out of his own. Now just one little thing I wan to add regarding kills and lynches. We have 3 bulletproof anti town people. Bum and Kurumi who claim to be SK and Wiggles, who was revealed as scum. Of the 3, only Kurumi can be killed normally in 1 night. He is SK, therefore he should be done with 2kp. I know a certain brofistdeathraydispenser who is not roleblockable and has 2 kp. So yeah, after 12 fistpounds Palmar should kill Kurumi. Wiggles and Bum are invulnerable at night. If I recall correctly, Bums role cannot be verified by someone in the game. There should also be reasonable doubt that Bum is in fact part of Scum. People here like to think both sides need experienced players for an even game. Now given a Joker and a Goddamn Batman, these people being Bloodcobbler and Bumatlarge, if they were town and scum, it would be pretty even., doesn´t it? Now if I could decide, I would say we lynch both Wiggles and Bum tonight. Yes, Wiggles can kill and had check that revealed him as scum. He needs to die. But Bum is Serial Killer, he even said so himself. If someone(I don´t remember who said it) interpreted the joker role right, he can shoot with his role power and with the fact he is serial killer. So he would have 2 kills per night. Now think about the possibilities what Bum could exactly be: 1) He says the truth and he is SK whos killpower is part of his role and has no alignment kp. 2) He lies and he is Scum with killpower in his role. 3) He lies and he is SK with a rolepower we do know nothing about. Think about these possibilities. Every single option is bad obviously, but the only reason to assume the least dangerous is true is to believe a confirmed anti town player. (If we have the maker of the joker role in the audience, please speak up.) I for myself do not believe one word Bum said so far. He is experienced, he knows we can´t force him to tell the truth. Also from what I heard, I fear Bum as Scum Mastermind far more than Wiggles as Scum Mastermind. *grrrr...* | ||
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On June 06 2011 09:31 redFF wrote: No palmar. Heres what you do, you shoot at a list. Not the person who is the most obvious, but the person who you think wont be redirected. Jackal, Tnkted, Torte, Barundar/eternal/hiro. As to how I know who is/isn't scum. I have a mason role, I've learnt a lot of shizz over the last 3 days. I know that one of these 3 is scum: Barundar/eternal/hiro- If i had to guess I would say Barundar but i'm gonna look over the thread again. I know that: Torte is scum I'm sure that both Bum and Mataza are scum but we will see how they flip I guess. Jackal is just a gut read. Just vig torte, jackal or whoever you think is scummiest out of barundar/hiro/eternalmisfit Don't tell us obv. *whines sadly* | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:22 Amber[LighT] wrote: #vote: bumatlarge *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* | ||
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On June 07 2011 09:59 Pandain wrote: *whimpers* *growls* | ||
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On June 07 2011 22:44 Mataza wrote: Bum or Palmar is a question of a good liar vs. a bad liar. Bum was the first confirmed anti town in the entire game. Both will go down soon™. Who goes down first is up to preference and maybe the fact you want to use a lynch on someone who has a 90% chance to die to Assassins tonight. Wasting a lynch is quite anti town, since it delays the lynch of real scum. While we´re at it, did Kurumi claim which role he made? I have made a little flow chart with 2 longer chains of roleclaiming already. Stefftastiq(Medium) -> Mataza(Stalker) -> Meapak_Ziphh(Notary) -> Torte de lini(Roleblockstuff) Jackal(Smilie Mason) -> Tnkted(Unlynchable) -> Palmar(Brofistdeathray Dispenser) -> Amber(Dog) Hiro(????) -> Wiggles(Black Motherfucker) Node(Indie rockstar) -> ???(Kp role, more than 1 kill) BC(Batman) <-> Bum(Joker) If I forgot something, feel free to correct this. Node maybe created for Karshe, but we can´t be sure about that. After this game is over I would love to see a bit disclosure on the creation chain from decon. However, everyone who didn´t say who he made a role for must either be sure that his role is very pro town or is part of the scum team waiting to mess with us in some way. *growls* | ||
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On June 07 2011 23:28 Jackal58 wrote: What's that Lassie??? Timmy fell down the well????? Quick! Get a rope. Lynch Palmar!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *growls* On June 07 2011 06:41 Amber[LighT] wrote: *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* On June 07 2011 06:41 Amber[LighT] wrote: *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* On June 07 2011 06:41 Amber[LighT] wrote: *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* *barks loudly* | ||
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Happy Day Before Your Birthday Jackal! | ||
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On June 08 2011 01:01 Karshe wrote: The crappy thing is during the night I was deciding between Mataza and Kurumi for my bomb... I think I chose wrong. ![]() *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On June 08 2011 01:06 Jackal58 wrote: Does that mean he chose wrong? Or does that mean Mataza is scum? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *barks loudly* *lies down* | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:53 Eternalmisfit wrote: I hope people would read the thread. The sequence of events regarding sinani (check pages 62-75) for details Sinani asks town to kill him Mig asks whether lynching Sinani would work (raises a ?) Sinani claims only a night kill will do so. Discussion goes on during the night on whether to kill him or nor. In Day, Mig suddenly claims that he had not read the role for sinani properly and didn't see that his role only worked at night (raised a ?). He later reveals the role. Sinani lurks since that point apart from fist-pounding Palmar and defending him. I hoped to make him slip-up by asking to reveal his role (and check the exact description between Sinani and Mig's claims) when he was on but he disappeared after my post and only replied after 7 hours. That pretty much covers entirety of Sinani's play apart from jumping on once a day crying ' Why didn't you kill me town?' ------------------------------------------------------------------ I am tired of trying to read the thread and doing analysis while it is near clear that no one cares to do. I will do my role-claim (great job making such a dumb role whoever it was) sometime later in the night. As to people still wondering whether Batman and Joker were inserted by the host in the game, I created the Batman role and I am 60-70% sure that Joker's role was created by Varpulis (at a certain point after decon got my role idea). Check the initial part of the thread where varp initially made a role which he said was boring and then later said that he has made a new role which is much more interesting. --------------------------------------- Also, if Palmar flips scum, I am quite sure redFF is scum. Why? He knew of 2 DTs in the game (Chaos13 and Varp) and both of them died in the first night after red knew. Read his fist-pound shenanigans at the start of the day 3 as well. He started with accusing Palmar and asking no one to fistpounds to Palmar. But instantly after Palmar claimed his new role, he made a u-turn and gave him a fist-pound. There are multiple inconsistencies in his posting but no one gives a damn since no one reads the thread. He mason's Rean in D3 after being totally against him on D2 and N2. Sinani is directly associated with Palmar also due to the fist-pounds which made absolute no sense considering there were given to a 'vigi' who had shot a DT so obviously outed the night before. Compound, Sinani's defense for Palmar (which was prolly his only contribution today), Sinani is most likely scum. If a townie had sinani's role where he was near immune to mafia hits and was green confirmed by town, he would probably do a lot analysis and make his role count. But, once Sinani was sure that we wont be lynched, he just lurked since then. Also, his roleblock claim and asking no one to shoot him much later during D3 seems suspicious since he would have seen and claimed that earlier. Mataza is also likely scum based on his D3 behavior. When the bomb was set to explode at 24 hr mark, he was hardcore attacking Palmar and trying to bus him. Just after the deadline was changed, his posting changed a lot and also he made a post he was regretting his actions he did assuming a 24 hr bomb. Again, no one noticed since no one gives a damn apart from deciding who to shoot on next day. He and hiro were the only ones who defended Mr. Wiggles as well. I am giving 70-30 odds of him flipping scum. Also, people missed Kurumi's 6 KP claim in N2. It is rather unlikely to be any assassins in the game since it would need atleast three assassins in the game to make it balanced for them. 3 KP (Palmar included) + 1 Kurumi + 1 GM + 1 Mafia + 1 Karshe - doesn't add up. Also, this assumes Bum has 0 KP and is lying about his powers and/or role. ----------------------- Also, I have yet to see a strong case against Torte apart from the weak suspicion based on the fact that he passively RB'd GM (which is outside his control and was confirmed by Meapak a confirmed townie). But, if you repeat someone is scum often enough, you have enough people on the bandwagon. ------------------------ And finally here is why lynching bum is a bad idea. What information that lynching bum reveal? Absolutely zilch,nada, nil. He is not even associated with anyone at this point since he was revealed N1). On the other, flipping Palmar provides a plethora of information to go on which can analyzed. I got bread-crumbed information that there is a possible vote-checker in town (don't ask where I got it) and since Palmar voted for VisceraEyes (whose list was possibly checked), his flip will again provide some interesting flip here. Combining the fact Palmar has been anti-town, killed townies, and lied out of his ass with the point that his flip actually reveals a lot for late-game, and that he still has a KP, makes him an excellent lynch target. Here's my case against him. And the rest of my suspect lists and analysis. Take it or leave it. I am not going to bother posting anymore till night-time. I know this a rather badly constructed post and I don't care since half the people wont bother to read it anyways. On June 08 2011 02:52 GMarshal wrote: Why? Why do you want to lynch the guy who may or may not have a kp and is anti town over the guy who is anti-town and has a kp? dsjdsakdsjkdsfjk Why do you people have difficulty grasping this? I've explained it in small words. Ok, you know what? Fine, if the town is going to play crappy as hell so can I. I am declaring GM's unilateral martial law. I am going to begin inducting people who are playing notably crappy into my circle and executing them. This measure is to encourage people to think. I'm done persuading people of things, I talk with my guns now. *sniff sniff* *wiggles his tail* ##vote: Palmer | ||
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On June 09 2011 07:44 Mig wrote: Shooting Kurumi won't kill him he has 2 vests don't be crazy. Kurumi will have to be lynched at some point but town should have plenty of time. And he killed sinani last night so he actually helped town. *grrrr* | ||
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On June 09 2011 18:14 DropBear wrote: ON HIRO PROTAGONIST Hiro is on both votecheck lists provided by Rean. He has much lower activity than many of the players remaining. DAY 1 Jumped on the Viscera Train late, helping it get over the line at the last minute. The only reasoning given is this: DAY 2 Once Mr Wiggles is brought up as red: Which is????????? No shit it's unlikely he's town, he was flipped in the day post. Only now it is obvious he is toast are you willing to admit this. You don't have a choice except to bus anymore. Which was???????? This is classic nothing post. Brings up lynch candidates but doesn't want to commit either way, then tries to divert discussion into BC's post. Tries to divert onto Cthsazsa and divert onto the BC discussion again. He only switches over once it is apparent that there is no chance in hell of Wiggles getting out alive. DAY 3 Ok so he goes after Palmar, someone who he didn't have on his radar, over bumatlarge who he was talking about Day 2, for the sake of being able to trust people he doesn't trust? So you vote Palmar, because he defends you? This is just weak reasoning for jumping on the train. DAY 4 Bum is almost guaranteed to die to the bomb. What kind of role would be bulletproof day and night? That would be stupidly overpowered and there's no way deconduo would have allowed it. You are trying to stop the scum team losing 2 people in one day. If Torte survives tonight, there's more roleblocks the following night. Same as the previous point. Trying desperately to save Torte. CONCLUSION Hiro has actively tried to derail the Wiggles and Torte lynches. He has been on last second trains on Viscera and Palmar with little or poor reasoning. He tried repeatedly to derail town concerning the BC post which was irrelevant at the time. He is on the votecheck lists. Hiro Protagonist is Mafia. *sniff sniff...* *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On June 09 2011 16:30 Rean wrote: Amber[LighT], listen up. You're going to tell me who you targetted each night. Quote posts and growl at your night 1 target, wiggle your tail at the n2 target, bark loudly at the n3 target. Capiche? Good doggie. On June 09 2011 06:18 Jackal58 wrote: I was role blocked last night. A smiley free day!!!!!! Now I'm going bowling. And drinking. Mostly drinking. Fuck you smileys!!!!!! *growls* On June 09 2011 08:22 GMarshal wrote: Kurumi, it says so in the day post, I only had one member in my circle, so only one person I could attempt to sacrifice. Also FUCK YEAH, my mistake has been redeemed, thanks sinani206, I owe you a post game beer ##Fistpound: Palmar *wiggles his tail* *barks loudly* | ||
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On June 10 2011 02:22 Jackal58 wrote: I thought you were growling at me being role blocked. But I gotcha. Also ##Fistpound Palmar. Also I'm buried at work and won't be active til later tonight. Also no fucking smileys. ![]() | ||
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[Not game related: we had a bad storm yesterday and I've been without power since about 4 pm yesterday so all I really have is my phone to check for updates. They don't know of were getting power back today or tomorrow] | ||
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On June 11 2011 09:50 GMarshal wrote: We should lynch Jackal, find if he is SK or if there is a framer in play. If there is a framer, then all our awesome list checks were just rendered worthless. I mean as a SK we cannot vigi him, so we lynch him, have palmar vigi Barundar and then narrow down the list that is left. Sound like a plan? *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On June 11 2011 18:15 Palmar wrote: I need fistpounds guys, need extra health and the bullet. At the moment my main concern would be to negate as many KP's as possible. GMarshal can't kill anyone tonight because he doesn't have anyone in his cult. Karshe has a KP, I have a KP, the mafia has a KP and jackal has a KP, in theory. We have 11 players remaining: Karshe GMarshal redFF Amber[LighT] Cthsazsa Barundar DropBear stefftastiq Rean Jackal58 Palmar I think up to 4 (but more likely 3) of those are anti-town. Barundar, Jackal and someone else. Lynching Jackal and shooting Barundar is a good plan. There is an additional benefit to it in the fact that I can probably sort-of-clear amber in the process. I think Rean considers him clear too. And that leaves what to do with karshe's bomb, and whom GMarshal should introduce into his circle. I guess we can discuss that in the night. Stefftastiq, we still need to hear from you, you should have some information for us? #Fistpound me! ##Vote Jackal58 *wiggles his tail* On June 11 2011 18:15 Palmar wrote: I need fistpounds guys, need extra health and the bullet. #Fistpound me! ##Vote Jackal58 *wiggles his god damned tail* | ||
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On June 11 2011 22:59 Jackal58 wrote: Lynch Barundar. 3 black alignments will leave the game tonight. Me and GMarshall will be dead and the 3rd will leave as a victor. Plus you lynch a red. Win win win for town. Why do you think GMarshall and I jumped on Palmar so quick when he claimed he was an assassin? Wasn't because we though he was scum. I might not be town and I can't possibly win my condition now since you checked me but I would love to deny GMarshall his wincon too. ![]() And none of us could take a chance on shooting while Kurumi was still alive. We would have been outed immediately. So town - Lynch Barundar. He's scum. I have no interest in shooting townies or scum. Just assassins. *sniff sniff...* | ||
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On June 12 2011 05:02 Karshe wrote: Well it's not me, and if it's not you, then it has to be Amber or GMarshal. If you believe GMarshal is 3rd party then it has to be Amber. How is anyone supposed to build a case against a dog? All he can do is q *barks loudly* | ||
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On June 12 2011 07:57 Rean wrote: Now you're here: please quote whoever you targetted last night and lie down please. *lies down* | ||
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On June 13 2011 00:37 Rean wrote: Stop being retarded. Nobody's shooting cthasza. We're very low on players left if you haven't noticed and these 1 on 1 trades aren't going to work out. We have to lynch Jackal and shoot Barundar simply because we can't afford Jackal shooting another townie. Seeing how much scum is left is nice but it doesn't actually help us win. We're keeping the list the way I said before: Amber has to vote for Jackal58 and we're good. *wiggles his tail* | ||
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On June 12 2011 08:36 Palmar wrote: also, will you give me some more bloody fistpounds? amber, you can #pawpound: Palmar and it will count. On June 12 2011 08:36 Palmar wrote: also, will you give me some more bloody fistpounds? amber, you can #pawpound: Palmar and it will count. On June 12 2011 08:36 Palmar wrote: also, will you give me some more bloody fistpounds? amber, you can #pawpound: Palmar and it will count. On June 12 2011 08:36 Palmar wrote: also, will you give me some more bloody fistpounds? amber, you can #pawpound: Palmar and it will count. On June 12 2011 08:36 Palmar wrote: also, will you give me some more bloody fistpounds? amber, you can #pawpound: Palmar and it will count. | ||
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On June 14 2011 10:48 redFF wrote: Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer? GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult Palmar -role confirmed Rean -role confirmed DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck Karshe - bombs confirm role Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck redFF-role confirmed Who is a framer? *growls* *sniff sniff* | ||
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On June 14 2011 17:10 Palmar wrote: Some interesting points. If rean is fucking with us, it's almost 100% chance that stefftastiq is the other scum, because he confirmed Rean's night action today, and it's results. This makes it very likely that Rean and Steff are both town. Amber cannot frame anyone, we still need to know who you targeted tonight. We also need to try to account for the mafia kill. For some reason the mafia KP did not land tonight, why? I agree with lynching DropBear tonight, and will cast my vote thusly. I see no reason to doubt the Rean check, confirmed by Stefftastiq, and we should have a vast majority to check this list. Let's just start this by lynching DropBear. ##Vote DropBear *sniff sniff* ?????????????????????????? | ||
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On June 15 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote: amber: stefftastiq gets a random night action clue. today he got the clue that the psychic had found two mafia, which is the same result as rean (psychic) had already posted. karshe, i am pretty sure amber has been helping town. i still want amber to wiggle his tail at the person he targeted last night. On June 14 2011 22:14 Rean wrote: Give an argument for why we should kill GMarshal over Amber. ALso, no, it wouldn't be retarded BECAUSE there might be a miller/godfather type role in play. You're blatantly ignoring that possibility in favor of just shooting your way through, which is a retarded philosophy to have. *wiggles his tail* | ||
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Would play another ptp again thanks decon and bb for hosting. Thanks for making me a mute palmer. It actually helped me stay alive ![]() | ||
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I also put viscera on that list so mafia would think he would be a good shot target since I made his role. I didn't think he was going to get lynched day 1. | ||
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On June 20 2011 16:21 DropBear wrote: One other thing I forgot to mention. Keep the game in the thread. Torte de Lini was being hassled when he posted in other forums. Noone should have to put up with that any time they post outside the Mafia forum. It's distasteful. That should be a general TL mafia rule... | ||
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Luckily I was the other medic and I was still alive. I could have infinitely protected you if I chose to. Unfortunately I made a risky move and chose to protect Rean, the DT, over you. Had I saved you we could have continued this strategy for most of the game to increase towns chances of winning. I knew you were going to be a target and you kinda outted Rean in the process, who I felt would be more worthwhile to keep around. The townies who outted me should consider using more discrete forms of protection. After the night there were no odd kills you should have assumed I protected Rean and didn't need to ask. I wasn't going to respond but with the fickle voting patterns of the town I figured claiming my target would get me removed from peoples scum lists. Tip for Rean: After I protected and claimed that I targeted you, it should have been obvious that I was not only protown, but I was also going to die the following night. You should have used your last DT check on another player who was escaping the action, but still thought to be scummy by the town: Karshe, Cztha, Gmarshal. [Not that it made a difference, but your last check would be more fulfilling ![]() | ||
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