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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 04 2011 18:06 GMT
#1761
On June 05 2011 03:04 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 03:01 Kurumi wrote:
On June 05 2011 03:00 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Jackal, why is your plan based on killing kurumi, rather than bum? Of the two, wouldn't you much rather see bum dead, or do you have an ulterior motive?

Bum has claimed to be bulletproof. Not 2 kp proof. His alignment may be SK but his role has made him somewhat more difficult to eliminate than Kurumi.
We will lynch Bum as that is the only way we can eliminate him.
If we can shoot the shit out of Kurumi with Palamar and Bum we have saved a lynch.
At least that's the way I see it.

Bum also claimed he was roleblocked and couldn't shoot,does this ring something in Your head?

If scum help to save you they are stupid and I have no doubt about towns ability to win. Scum don't want you here any more than us townies do. If they do protect you you are not an SK you are scum.

Do You mean that someone from "my scumteam" told me to say that now? No moron,I pointed out it as fast as bum claimed SK.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 04 2011 18:07 GMT
#1762
It looks like town is going to kill me after all...

So, here are my thoughts for night actions.

Medic list:

Protect people who are contributing, and doing analysis. Don't protect people based on their roles. Remember, role does not equal alignment. So, even if Palmar has a KP and made it public, you can't assume he's town. Analysts will win this game if we can salvage it, not roles.

Vigilante list:

You should have some strong scum reads by now, so Night 2 is the night to shoot if you're going to. Shoot your strongest scum read, and if you're not sure, give a list of candidates to town if you've already claimed to get some night discussion going. What you don't want to do, is say which person specifically you want to kill, because then our bus-driver might save them if they're scum.

Watcher/Tracker list:

Follow and watch people suspicious, and who are supposed to do specific actions for town tonight. Those players are Kurumi, Bumatlarge, and Palmar. They've all agreed to do something for town, so now is the time to hold them to it and see if they go somewhere else.

Detectives:

Use your head. If you can't, check lurkers. Look at people you aren't sure of, or if you only have reads of who the scum are 100% (*cough cough*), use a DT check to make sure your suspicions are correct. Watch out though, because my framer's still on the prowl too.
you gotta dance
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 04 2011 18:08 GMT
#1763
On June 05 2011 03:00 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Actually, if Kurumi's role-claim is true, we will need 4 KP or 3KP+role-block to kill him.

Show nested quote +
You are the Tarp Mage. You can smell traps a full galaxy away! You will be notified of how much total KP is possible each night. If any night KP is used on you, you can choose to negate it for that night. You will be notified of the source (Mafia KP, Vig, bomb, etc). If that KP source can be used the next night, it automatically targets you.


##Fistpound: Palamar.
I hope this doesn't come back to bite the town but I think we will need the KP and hopefully Palmar can hold on his promise of not randomly shooting people.


Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Jackal, why is your plan based on killing kurumi, rather than bum? Of the two, wouldn't you much rather see bum dead, or do you have an ulterior motive?


Jackal is in a PM circle with bum and few others so I believe he has information which convinces him that leaving Bum alive is better. In either, we will need to off one of them tonight IMO.

Nope. I have no such information. I just don't think it's possible to kill Bum at night. Not by shooting him at any rate. I will be pushing for Bums lynch tomorrow. Unless we get another magic reveal of scum.

Now if somebody has an RPG the irony would be delicious.
Life can only kill you once.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 04 2011 18:17 GMT
#1764
Also, people shouldn't stop talking. Scum are happy to sit here with no activity and let me die, but town shouldn't be.
you gotta dance
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 04 2011 18:17 GMT
#1765
Torte de Lini,You better post here,not in DropBear's blog.
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 04 2011 18:18 GMT
#1766
KK Torte De Lini, A couple of things about him.
Firstly, we all know Torte is crazy active in the forums, and that he has been posting just as much as always the last few days. He's been streaming too so we know he is around and able to post/play.

Lets look at some of his posts from day 1

On June 01 2011 05:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 05:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 01 2011 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
FoS Sinani

Sinani hasn't posted...like, ANYTHING. I'm literally picking up NO scum-reads at this point, and the analysis everyone else is posting is based on meta I'm not familiar with...so I'm going to pick on an inactive until something big happens.

##Vote sinani206


Wow this is a pretty scummy post. You're picking up no scum reads because all the analysis is based on meta? Read through the thread again, that is simply not true. Rather than read through the thread and trying to draw your own conclusions though, you're simply going to vote a complete inactive and wait for "something big" to happen. Veeery bad town play my friend.


How is that scummy at all? I don't understand, to me it's just ignorance which is individual-based and not mafia or town oriented at all.

Sounds both bad mafia and bad town in my opinion. This is no different than the original inquiries to people who were just posting fluff and/or pointless shit (this could be considered one).

Bad town play, perhaps, but by default that makes one mafia?

How many mafia players are in this game anyways?

If anything I'd vote Kurumi, what with what was posted previously. It's not directed at anyone in particular and it seems to be just side-stepping after throwing up his hands in the air from his previous post:

"Sure,then do something I can discuss about."

That's all I really have to say to be honest, the rest I don't really feel warrants much input or views. I mean, you guys are extracting a lot of ideas over very little.

Guess that's even less contributory from me D:

I'm trying dammit D:<


Shitty nothing post, terrible reasoning for voting someone, obviously hasn't really been reading the thread. I bolded his reason for voting, doesn't give any reasoning just says "because of what someone else said on him" lolololol.

On May 31 2011 16:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hi!

Yeah, I've been posting everywhere else, just not here. Not quite sure what to say or do~

Like... today's Day 1 and we're just prodding and poking hoping someone slips up (somehow). What have we figured out so far? We have a favored dog who can't say or do anything (so basically we're playing 20 questions with a canine) and uh... someone quick to role-claim when under very little pressure (right?).

The rest is just people trying to lift the blankets off guys like me who have no idea what to do :B

I don't really follow or consider the ideas of posting "fluff/pointless" stuff to be anything worthwhile or notable yet, so there's not much for me to lead with or get an idea for.

Doesn't help that I barely know any of you guys.

So uh... I know this is a moot point, but how do we know the dog is on our side, can there be a neutral alignment in this game too? I might be bringing up a silly idea, but trying to throw some thing out there to consider or of worth.

Another crappy post. Repeating what has been said. STating the obvious. Emphasisinng how newbie he is and has no idea what is going on...

On May 31 2011 08:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Wow, this game is so damn utterly fast and confusing. Does it tone down after Day 1? I hate the idea of not being to edit, so I'll just ask all my questions in one basket.

  • Does the posting speed tone down after Day 1?

  • So... how do we figure out anything on Day 1 to eventually lynch someone?

  • If saying fluffy and pointless things are bad, what are we intended to say?

  • I like kitties better than doggies D:<!

Yeah i have to post something but I'm not gonna post anything opinionated or really anything useful at all.

From Torte's day 1 posts we can gather that he refuses to post opinions and doesn't really want to get involved in doing any actual scumhunting.


Now day 2 is where it gets a little more interesting.
Firstly, somebody asks if he has a posting restriction.
On June 04 2011 00:40 Karshe wrote:
Torte, do you have some sort of posting restriction, or is your activity just low?

Here's the list from Rean that you were talking about, it's on Page 75.

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 03 2011 07:03 Rean wrote:
A quick list of dead roles/last will etc so far, will update with claimed stuff and other information that has been claimed in the thread in a bit

  1. Kurumi
  2. Karshe
  3. Mr. Wiggles
  4. deskscaress The Possesed + Show Spoiler +
    "You are the Possessed. You're the materialization of a disembodied spirit!
    You are capable of murdering someone with your bare hands, but that person will be chosen at random and you can only do it once.
    If you are lynched, the last person to vote for you will immediately suffer a painful death.
    If you are killed, the killer's alignment will be revealed to everyone.
    "

  5. GMarshal
  6. Palmar
  7. Eternalmisfit
  8. sandroba The Painter + Show Spoiler +
    You are the Painter. You're an artist, a man of creativity and come from a river of wit and inspiration. Each night you can paint any other player to another role you see fit. As a painter, your works are only 2-dimensional, they cannot come to life and thus any person you paint as a different role, doesn't mean they actually play that role, they just appear as that role when investigated.

  9. chaos13
  10. kitaman27
  11. Kenpachi
  12. Tackster
  13. Varpulis Police Chief Mole + Show Spoiler +
    You are the Police Chief. You have day and night abilities, but you must choose which one to use. You are limited to one action per cycle. You may only use each ability once, but if you use all five you may start again.
    At night
    -You can inspect any player, revealing their alignment.
    -You can arrest a player and throw them in prison. This will roleblock them, but also prevent them from being actioned against.

    In the day
    -You can interrogate a player, finding out who they targeted the night before.
    -You can set up surveillance on a player, this will allow you to see who visits that player the following night.
    -You can order your forensics department to perform an autopsy on one of the players that died that night, they will scrub the body for evidence and be able to name one player that visited that person last night..

  14. tnkted
  15. hiro protagonist
  16. redFF
  17. sinani206
  18. Node Indie Rocker + Show Spoiler +
    You are the Indie Rocker! As you have the best music taste in town, you don't need to get involved with the daily ramblings, and instead deal with problems yourself at night. You can get mad and kill people because of their terrible taste in music once per night.

    However, your ego is pretty high. In case you haven't hit a mafia and killed him/her by day 4, regardless of your alignment, you will turn emo instead and kill yourself.
    His last will: + Show Spoiler +
    Hey everybody,

    If you're reading this, I'm dead. To save you the questions that would probably consume the thread for pages the way it's been going, I'm able to write this due to someone else's ability, not my own.

    I shot prplhz. I figured that if both myself and BC find him as scummy as we do, it would be worthwhile. Sorry if he was town, but I stand by my decision.

    Lynch bumatlarge over anyone and everyone else if he didn't kill a scum last night. I guarantee you town has more KP than it could ever need -- just look at my role, and imagine if there were only two more similar ones around somewhere. I know at the very least I gave a role with more than one KP. Plus, ask yourself, why would Batman "retire" if the Joker were dead but not the other way around? Nah, being SK is waaaaay too convenient.

    I've reconsidered on chaos13 -- reading over his posts he's done less than I thought he did. This doesn't mean he's mafia or town, just don't spare him because I said he was town earlier. Lynch bumatlarge first.

    Finally, Palmar is probably town, Varpulis is probably scum, Tackster is still probably scum (but if bum is scum, he's probably not), and GMarshal needs to post more.

    KISSES XOXO,
    Node

  19. bumatlarge
  20. Mataza
  21. Mig
  22. VisceraEyes Veteran Zombie + Show Spoiler +
    "You are the Veteran Zombie. You have been around the block. You've been in many other Team Liquid mafia games, and you've always managed to land a kill but not without getting yourself taken out.

    Even though your destiny is to die to take another soul to the grave, you've learned a few skills to evade death. You have two lives and you are able to take another person of his choice with you if you get killed. Your ability activates automatically upon death"

  23. Amber[LighT]
  24. BloodyC0bbler The Goddamn Batman + Show Spoiler +
    "You are the Goddamn Batman. You are the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So the town hunts you because you can take it. You are a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. Role-claming as Batman at any point of the game will get you lynched. However, since you are well disguised as Bruce Wayne, role checks on you come back as Playboy Millionaire.

    Every night you go ahead and protect the first person being targeted by a KP. However, you are truly incorruptible and do not let scum die out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness and thus protect that person regardless of their alignment.

    Your Arch-Nemesis, the Joker, is bumatlarge. He knows who you are but can not cause your death. You may not reveal his role nor can he reveal yours. If he dies, you will retire from your life of fighting crime, satisfied that the city is safe."

  25. Torte de Lini
  26. Cthsazsa
  27. Barundar
  28. Meapak_Ziphh
  29. DropBear
  30. prplhz The Coward + Show Spoiler +
    You the Coward. You can survive a lynch once thanks to your fast legs and knowing every dark place in this town. You can also decide to leave your home at night once. Any actions that are attempted on you that night will be redirected to other people visiting you. If only one person visits you that night they will be told "You couldn't find Your target

  31. stefftastiq
  32. Rean
  33. Jackal58



Then as soon as it is asked, Torte jumps at his chance!!!
On June 04 2011 00:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
I have a posting restriction.

So what we can gather from his "posting restriction" is that he is allowed to say that he has one. So if he cannot post much during the day, why didn't he tell us this beforehand??? Also I don't think anybody has come forward and confirmed this restriction. Also if you had a posting restriction where you cannot post much why would a town player waste a post with one line??? He could have done some analysis and add on the fact that he has a posting restriction but nope he won't do that because he won't post any opinions on his reads because he is scum.

FInally
On June 03 2011 11:04 chaos13 wrote:
Torte, since you're here right now, do you think GMarshal is scummy?

On June 04 2011 00:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Palmar: I'm so confused, so much to read @________@! Palmar, can you kill people? If so: your penetrating hit can probably kill serial killers right? Can you confirm this for me, because then you can kill Bum or Kurumi. Save us a day of lynching them, right.

In fact is Palmar here? I am having trouble finding your posts dude.

I mean I guess it's pretty obvious that Wiggles is scum... so I know who I am voting for. But what do we do about

Oh and I wrote for Sandroba if that helps you guys, but everyone knows his role already D:

I need to find that list that was made awhile back.

Chaos13: No, not really, what did he do?

I'm going to ignore how awful this post is and focus on the last part.

Torte de Lini roleblocked GM last night. Why would you block someone you don't think is scummy??? BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM


redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 04 2011 18:19 GMT
#1767
EBWOP: Vigs shoot should him
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 04 2011 18:21 GMT
#1768
redFF wat how do You know that?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 04 2011 18:22 GMT
#1769
#Fistpound: Palmar

Who are you shooting tonight Palmar? Kurumi, bumatlarge, Torte de Lini, or someone else?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 04 2011 18:23 GMT
#1770
How did you determine TdL role blocked Gman?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 04 2011 18:24 GMT
#1771
##FISTBUMP: Palamar

Dunno if it has to formatted right or not.
Life can only kill you once.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 04 2011 18:26 GMT
#1772
Goddamnit redFF...
you gotta dance
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 04 2011 18:33 GMT
#1773
Do NOT reveal who you are going to shoot, please
t(ツ)t
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
June 04 2011 18:35 GMT
#1774
Well, ok, Red is scum then
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 04 2011 18:36 GMT
#1775
On June 05 2011 03:35 tnkted wrote:
Well, ok, Red is scum then

That makes Amber scum too.
Can I splat Red's brain please?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2011 18:37 GMT
#1776
On June 05 2011 01:06 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 00:26 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 05 2011 00:21 Palmar wrote:
Ok I'll not shoot sinani. how about I shoot kitaman, chaos13 or redFF?

is that cool bro?

If you have two shots shoot Kurumi. Bum can supply the third.

As good as this sounds, lets not discuss this in public..


Lets make things more private.

I'll check you, if you check me.

I doubt you can resist my night actions, if you know what I mean.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 04 2011 18:37 GMT
#1777
WHy does that make me scum??
GM visited nobody last night and that Torte was the only one who visited him.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 04 2011 18:41 GMT
#1778
On June 05 2011 03:37 redFF wrote:
WHy does that make me scum??
GM visited nobody last night and that Torte was the only one who visited him.

How do you know this? Where is this posted at If this is info you got from Chaos fine but don't make a post and draw conclusions from it that just aren't there.
Life can only kill you once.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 04 2011 18:46 GMT
#1779
Nice, another person to push a lynch on instead of me.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 04 2011 18:48 GMT
#1780
On June 05 2011 03:46 bumatlarge wrote:
Nice, another person to push a lynch on instead of me.

Nope,You're dead.
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