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Palmar made a claim that guarantees him to die tonight. Only the mafia would save him now, so he wastes a lynch for town. Come one, think.
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Palmar made a claim that guarantees him to die tonight. Only the mafia would save him now, so he wastes a lynch for town. Come one, think. | ||
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On June 07 2011 20:37 Palmar wrote: Mataza, it can be used for evil. But it's more powerful for the town. I think it's best if it's kept secret. If you want to be outed and confirmed Amber, just wiggle your tail at my post. Also, you should probably give me 4 fistpounds at least, that way both the assassins have to stack on me to get me killed. Feel free to troll them and give me more, basically leaving them neutered and their numbers still count amongst town. NO :plzdie | ||
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I know, a daring assumption but let´s pretend it was a possibility. If there are assassins in this game, they will kill him. They don´t need their kp for anything else. If he for some reason survives, we lynch him. There shouldn´t be much of a difference between lynching Bum and lynching Palmar. We cannot control either. And they have both KillPower. The difference is, that Palmar is very likely to die at night, while Bum is not. Bum is at least bulletproof and we have no killpower confirmed as town to stack up on him. At this point, the "Palmar problem" will most likely solve itself., while the "Bum problem" won´t. Sorry Bum, but you are simply not town. | ||
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 uh:In hindsight I am grateful to live the whole day instead of the half. Also   | ||
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Is there any way to know if Amber is using his superdog abilities for the good of town? | ||
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Who goes down first is up to preference and maybe the fact you want to use a lynch on someone who has a 90% chance to die to Assassins tonight. Wasting a lynch is quite anti town, since it delays the lynch of real scum. While we´re at it, did Kurumi claim which role he made? I have made a little flow chart with 2 longer chains of roleclaiming already. Stefftastiq(Medium) -> Mataza(Stalker) -> Meapak_Ziphh(Notary) -> Torte de lini(Roleblockstuff) Jackal(Smilie Mason) -> Tnkted(Unlynchable) -> Palmar(Brofistdeathray Dispenser) -> Amber(Dog) Hiro(????) -> Wiggles(Black Motherfucker) Node(Indie rockstar) -> ???(Kp role, more than 1 kill) BC(Batman) <-> Bum(Joker) If I forgot something, feel free to correct this. Node maybe created for Karshe, but we can´t be sure about that. After this game is over I would love to see a bit disclosure on the creation chain from decon. However, everyone who didn´t say who he made a role for must either be sure that his role is very pro town or is part of the scum team waiting to mess with us in some way. | ||
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I was somehow in the mind of having died in both mafia games. So first things first Karshe bombs Palmar tonight. If P really is assassin, you will get it back because he is dead at daybreak. Barundar, if you keep your vote on someone you don´t want to lynch, we have to assume you gain Role powers by voting. Very suspicious. Don´t forget he did this after tonight. About Sinani If I remember correctly, his role was confirmed night1. Don´t remember who exactly. I will reread in a short bit. Also lol GMarshal^^ "The mysterious cult leader killed someone." Very secretive if everyone knows who you are^^ lmao The thing with bussing is, it only works if people don´t want to kill you anyway. Who THE HELL "knows" that Bum has no kp anymore? It´s an assumption at best. Remember that no one ever can confirm his role? Also who THE HELL believes Kurumi when he says "I shot Kita becaaaaause.......I was angry, ya" We are missing the scumteam kp from last night. Mysteriously the whole scumteam was roleblocked or someone was saved with neither the savior nor the saved claiming. How about the SK with only 2 shots didn´t shoot a second time? I bet my money on Kurumi lying. Also thanks for the advise to bomb mr bulletproof, way to waste our towns resources. How gullible do you think is this town? To me, the course of action is clear. 1. Bum gets lynched 2. Palmar gets an explosive necklace 3. I die 4. Nobody listens to Kurumis "advice" Also I find this fricking hilarious+ Show Spoiler + On June 08 2011 01:48 Palmar wrote: Do it yourself. Killing me today is stupid. Are you guys honestly suggesting the mafia plan looked something like this? -> Step 1: Bus the mole, get town cred LIKE A BOSS -> Step 2: Help lynch Wiggles, knowing bum is in trouble LIKE A BOSS -> Step 3: Kill a cop, claim the kill, and lose every fucking gram of town cred we have LIKE A BOSS -> Step 4: Claim assassin, bus Bum anyway, cause that's how I roll. LIKE A BOSS -> Step 5: Get killed LIKE A BOSS 4 mafia down, go us! This is not what will happen if I flip. All you will end up with is a wasted lynch, and Bumatlarge still alive. Also no bad feelings for the bomb, Karshe. I would probably shoot myself, if I was someone else. | ||
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So you completely discarded the possibilty that Bum might be 3rd party, but use him as 3rd party together with Kurumi to rule out assassins to be in the game? 1 SK, 3 Assassins. If you don´t discard this possibility, you just said: "We know this one guy who probably has kp and is bulletproof and then this other guy who has kp for sure. Lets lynch the guy without bulletproof, then use 1 kp on the bulletproof guy and curse in the morning when he didn´t die." :7   | ||
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Everyday we get more confirmed anti town players and none of them die at night. | ||
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On June 08 2011 02:53 Eternalmisfit wrote: Mataza is also likely scum based on his D3 behavior. When the bomb was set to explode at 24 hr mark, he was hardcore attacking Palmar and trying to bus him. Just after the deadline was changed, his posting changed a lot and also he made a post he was regretting his actions he did assuming a 24 hr bomb. Again, no one noticed since no one gives a damn apart from deciding who to shoot on next day. He and hiro were the only ones who defended Mr. Wiggles as well. I am giving 70-30 odds of him flipping scum. Actually pretty fine post, but you´re maybe making it too easy. I dropped my hard course against Palmar because he confirmed himself as anti town. Now we have again 3 anti town players:
We need to kill all of those 3. There is no use digging in a open door, so I don´t see any reason to still focus my play only around Palmar. Palmar actually is the first anti town player in the game which we can actually kill at night. You know, so our KP doesn´t go towards innocent townies like the other nights. Also Kurumi claimed that his role reveals *possible* kp for the night he uses it. Not all available kp for the entire game. Also Kurumi could simply lie since he is anti town. Failmath right there. If Varpulis created Bums role, there is no way to confirm it ever. On another issue, in the back of my mind I have the nagging feeling that TdL´s blocking ability holds back an entire shitstorm of nasty role powers. Then again, when you finally find out how his role works you can backtrack who has been blocked to deduce where the nastyness coems from. (Meapak said he can confirm that GMarshal must´ve been blocked, so it is triggered by something visible, like voting behavior) Also | ||
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If your claim was honest, you can bind 1 killpower in an endless cycle of delaying. Other than that, you´re an SK, which means 2 KP and you drop dead. In short, 3KP to kill Kurumi for good. GM is already bound to him, so 2 to finish the job. | ||
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You scored my only scumread, so to speak you made the highscore. | ||
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Actually your claim could have had a purpose 1. Claim "wtf is this shit, its useless", so people think you are just dense 2. get town cred by repeatingly playing dense, 3. Use your PM ability to get roleclaim from chaos13 4. "I have info, but I can´t say where I got it from" [green[No shit sherlock, you can PM people, you told us[/green] 5. Your contact drops dead, luckily Palmar claimed it. 6. PM Rean, get roleclaim from him Now if Rean drops dead soon, I think I can make out a pattern. But who do you bus then? -> Doesn´t matter, the lynching queue is 3 days long. Aside from that, you have been extra unhelpful this game. If I had the time left, I would consider going back to find all the times you derailed the thread. Alas, my minutes are numbered :7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7:7 | ||
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I dropped that attitude, since we have to kill them all anyway. If people actually want to lynch Palmar first and try to hit Bum at night, in hope he does die from 1 kp, that´s ok.  | ||
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Performance anxiety probably. My role felt useless. Then I didn´t want to out anything. It´s probably the fear of dying that makes me a decent player^^ | ||
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Aside from voicing my opinions and who I read as scum, I also hope I can cover every question about me that´s going to come up after my death. I was the Stalker I see what is done to my target, but not who did it. I chose Tnkted night1, the declared cop check. No one visited him. -> We probably don´t have any alignment checkers, or he/she/they for some reason didn´t check him I chose Bumatlarge for night 2. No one visited him. -> We have either no townsided kp, or they are stupid. Your call. What I you should do :Murder the hell out of these guys in any order you wish: Bum Palmar Kurumi This list must get a lot shorter. If you get 2 suspects tomorrow, we are already booked out for 4 days. What I think would be helpful: Who you should consider to murder or lynch(high suspicion): redff TdL Pandain Tnkted(Murder only, lynch immune) Who you should sternly look at too(lower suspicion): Amber GMarshal Sinani Hiro Karshe Barundar Really not much to say about these guys. Redff has reacted horribly to my FoS day1. His best line was "My memory is foggy" concerning events that were 3 hours in ago at that time. Look if he actively tries to derail or if he is just that chaotic. If Rean drops dead tonight we have a pattern. Tnkted has been not helpful so far. His role granted him immunity to lynches and he kinda lurked about the whole time. If he is scum, we need to preserve kp or off him before that. Unlynchable scum is hard to get rid off. Kenpachi has flown under the radar much. Pandain improves activity but does only spam dog emotes and pictures so far. He has apparently a reputation for never claiming his actual role, so I would categorize him as troll. If you can´t work with him, remove him from the equation. TdL is a lynching mass roleblocker. Meapak should be ashamed of making a restriction of 7 posts in a game with 48h days. His roleflip and alignment flip will give you information. If he´s red, all blocked people are probably not scum. It´s dangerous though, as he could be the one stopping the madness at night by blocking the killpowers. Hiro has been not very active for the last day or so. He just so flies under the radar. Sinani does so too. Amber is trying hard again, but what better explanation for not analysing people is there than not being able to talk. GMarshal is, well, suspicious to me. Not much to say really. Also I don´t have the time to look now. He also has killpower, so look out for that. Karshe is mostly here for his Killpower. He claimed it and he is the reason I die in a few minutes. Would have preferred he bombed Bum or Kurumi. Needs guidance for his KP Consider not using it, as town wants to do most of its justice by lynches. You can see where random killing leads. Barundar has been quite suspicious in my eyes at least. Not very active in the beginning and now he is also more certain that TdL is scum than of Bum or Palmar. I suspect his role to be the reason behind the vote, either that he gains something by voting, or that he wants to finally use his rolepower after TdL blocked him 2 nights straight. I apologize for playing pretty crappy the other days. I have no valuable info to give you with my role. | ||
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What I think you should do Also I forgot these  :7  :7:7 | ||
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Stefftastiq(Medium) -> Mataza(Stalker) -> Meapak_Ziphh(Notary) -> Torte de lini(Roleblockstuff) Jackal(Smilie Mason) -> Tnkted(Unlynchable) -> Palmar(Brofistdeathray Dispenser) -> Amber(Dog) Hiro(????) -> Wiggles(Black Motherfucker) Node(Indie rockstar) -> ???(Kp role, more than 1 kill) probably: Karshe(Bombstrapper) Redff(interrogator) -> Varpulis(police chief) Em(???) -> BC(Batman) Varp(Pickup) (->) Bum(Joker) GMarshal(Cult leader) Kurumi(Trap mage) Mig(???) -> Sinani(Sacrificial priest) Dropbear(visitorkiller) I forgot again what role Kurumi made, so it can´t be important. | ||
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