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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 05:18 GMT
#3249
I'm off to sleep now unfortunately. I look forward to demolishing any defense you might put forth ScumBear! ^_^
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 18:51 GMT
#3283
On June 15 2011 02:05 Palmar wrote:
GM

Cause I like to hog all the KP's myself.

And because he is on Rean's list.

Go for it. Give mafia the game. I mean who needs to scumhunt?

Go back and read PYP:I. Do you know who pushed the "kill everyone on the list" idea?

I did, cause I was mafia, and knew that was the best way to win, you force town attention on mistaken DT checks rather than on actual scumhunting.

If we exterminate the list we play straight into the mafia's hands, stop being idiots and realize this.

Why am I the only player that even considers the possibility of balance?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 18:55 GMT
#3284
On June 15 2011 03:47 Cthsazsa wrote:
Rean I'm just ignoring red for now. All he's done and been doing is calling people scum without a good reason and shouting 'IF WE DONT SHOOT THIS LIST WE LOSE".


Its the typical desperate mafia strategy of the last survivor, realizing he is about to be left alone, and clinging to one last desperate strand of hope.

If Palmar has any clue of what good town play entails he'll shoot him tonight.

Not that I expect that mind you, he'll probably shoot into the town and be like "oops, I killed our best analyst, when we are fast approaching lylo, my bad ^_^"
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:05 GMT
#3286
On June 15 2011 04:02 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 03:47 Cthsazsa wrote:
Rean I'm just ignoring red for now. All he's done and been doing is calling people scum without a good reason and shouting 'IF WE DONT SHOOT THIS LIST WE LOSE".

lol, circumstances have changed. I know you are mad I called you scum yesterday but there is no reason to not listen to me when what I am saying is correct. What reasons do we have not to believe this list? GM is trying to convince everyone it is inaccurate because he knows he is screwed if we just kill into this list and win the game.

I've heard this argument before! You know who made it?

I did, when I was scum in PYP:I and Radfeild questioned the validity of my lists. ^_^

Guess what? If I weren't around you'd get away with it and everything! But I am around, and here to remind the town that this is an *exact* repeat of PYP:I, except that this time I'm on the town's side.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:07 GMT
#3287
Also, if you are deadset on me being scum, why are you following my proposed lynch? Why aren't you arguing the db lynch? Is it because you know I'm right?

Keep flailing mafia man, I've been in your position before, and I don't envy it.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:16 GMT
#3293
On June 15 2011 04:12 redFF wrote:
lol I think DB is scum too, and I stated why I'm following the lynch ffs. You are just twisting my words and acting like I am obv-scum when I'm not lol. Dropbear is a claimed PGO, and he is in that list of 4 PEOPLE, 2 OF THEM BEING MAFIA. He is scum so we are lynching him lol. You're really fucked now because of that list and these idiots are buying your bullshit about millers and gfs and such. A gf would do jack shit to that list, if there was a gf on it then more of you would be scum not less lol. A miller would fuck it up I agree, BUT WE HAVE NO REASON TO THINK THERE IS A MILLER, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE VOTECHECK OF A FRIGGIN CONFIRMED DT. This is hilarious that people may actually side with you. Palmar ffs you know what to do. Once again all this is is a hardcore OMGUS/chainsaw defense from GM and Votechecks are op but what you gonna do?

Keep on being desperate scum, you know and I know and your scumbuddy knows that there is a miller in that list, you know that if you convince the town to kill everyone on it you win, its just a matter of how much people are willing to sheep idiocy, rather than bother to *think* about whether or not such an op ability would be allowed without a counter, and of what your real intent is, mr "I oust dts"

Do you really think that if there were two mafia left both would vote for the same target like idiots? The fact that you think that if I were mafia I would be that stupid is so condescending that it makes me actually angry.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:17 GMT
#3294
On June 15 2011 04:12 Cthsazsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 04:02 redFF wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:47 Cthsazsa wrote:
Rean I'm just ignoring red for now. All he's done and been doing is calling people scum without a good reason and shouting 'IF WE DONT SHOOT THIS LIST WE LOSE".

lol, circumstances have changed. I know you are mad I called you scum yesterday but there is no reason to not listen to me when what I am saying is correct. What reasons do we have not to believe this list? GM is trying to convince everyone it is inaccurate because he knows he is screwed if we just kill into this list and win the game.


Wait, why all of a sudden is GM scum? You never explained your reasoning.

And "he's on both lists" doesn't count.

Its because I want people to think, rather than depend on blues, stupid of me, I know, but hey, a man can hope, right?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:26 GMT
#3296
Cths, you up for just lynching RedFF? I'm pretty sure that from his desperate behavior he is mafia, and we can just have palmar shoot DB tonight.

Or we can do it the other way around, I don't care ^_^
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:35 GMT
#3300
On June 15 2011 04:28 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 04:17 GMarshal wrote:
On June 15 2011 04:12 Cthsazsa wrote:
On June 15 2011 04:02 redFF wrote:
On June 15 2011 03:47 Cthsazsa wrote:
Rean I'm just ignoring red for now. All he's done and been doing is calling people scum without a good reason and shouting 'IF WE DONT SHOOT THIS LIST WE LOSE".

lol, circumstances have changed. I know you are mad I called you scum yesterday but there is no reason to not listen to me when what I am saying is correct. What reasons do we have not to believe this list? GM is trying to convince everyone it is inaccurate because he knows he is screwed if we just kill into this list and win the game.


Wait, why all of a sudden is GM scum? You never explained your reasoning.

And "he's on both lists" doesn't count.

Its because I want people to think, rather than depend on blues, stupid of me, I know, but hey, a man can hope, right?

-_-
lol I am thinking but to ignore A VOTECHECK FROM A CONFIRMED DT WITH NO REASON TO THINK THAT THERE IS A MILLER is idiotic.
Yes Gmarshal being on both lists is suspicious, TOWN HAS TO KILL INTO THIS LIST, IT IS THE ONLY RATIONAL THING TO DO.
Gmarshal was the main force behind palmar getting lynched over Bumatlarge lol.
If you guys actually listen to this guy and don't shoot into this list then you are idiots. I've gone from being thought of as town to being questioned and doubted because I brought up a perfect plan which would result in scum's loss and of course GM is trying his hardest to prevent that.

Right, the guy who has now killed two different SKs and a red is obviously not to be trusted.

Oh he also mistakenly lynched the guy who claimed assassin, when he was sure there were no assassins (And was I right? I WAS! ^_^)

You know what else I'm right about? There being a miller, I guarantee you there is. I've balanced games, at least trust me as far as "there is no way in hell there are listchecks and NO alignment disguising powers/roles in the game"

Again, you are using the same exact arguments I used against radfield, even the same tone of rage at the town. Have you been reading PYP:I for pointers? I remind you I lost that game, so copying my strategy might not be the best play, Mr. I oust DTs .

Oh, and by the way I CAN SPAM CAPS TOO!
Not that it lends your arguments any credence.


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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:36 GMT
#3301
On June 15 2011 04:33 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 04:26 GMarshal wrote:
Cths, you up for just lynching RedFF? I'm pretty sure that from his desperate behavior he is mafia, and we can just have palmar shoot DB tonight.

Or we can do it the other way around, I don't care ^_^


yeah, I'll shoot DB and die a horrible death.

Damn, forgot he was a pgo. Nvm then.

Shooting redFF then ^_^
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:45 GMT
#3307
On June 15 2011 04:39 Palmar wrote:
We'll see GMarshal

If DropBear flips green, I'm definitely shooting into the list. There are hardly two millers in the list.

At the moment, I feel I'm shooting you no matter what, you have a KP that I don't control, you have less green points in my book than anyone in the list aside from dropbear.

Go for it then, but shoot me because you think I'm scum, not because of some "list"

Make a case. Yes I mislynched you, sorry, but *you* claimed assassin. Analyze my posts, point out what my motivation is.

I've also killed two serial killers and called out bum on his bs from day 1 + not sacrificed anyone.

Are you saying that all that gives me fewer "green points" than say RedFF? The guy who exposed three detective roles thus far? Really?

Don't guess, judge people by their actions, I've only tried to help the town, redFF has only tried to lynch people at random, and his record thus far is poor to say the least.

You have a KP, you are responsible for this town's victory or defeat. Don't throw my efforts away, please.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 19:48 GMT
#3308
On June 15 2011 04:43 redFF wrote:
exactly, ignoring a votecheck with 2/4 scum by a confirmed dt would be one of the dumbest things i have ever seen a town do. We have to shoot into that list and GM should be the first shot because he is the scummiest and has kp.

Yes, continue to ignore all my arguments, and when someone flips miller and the town loses, just shrug your shoulders and grin, as you drive your knife into their backs. I hope the town is smart enough to ignore you.

this is *exactly* PYP:I, and if I couldn't beguile the town into letting me win in that game, then by god I'm not going to let you succeed where I failed.

Nothing personal of course, just can't allow scum to defeat me like this.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:06 GMT
#3312
On June 15 2011 04:56 Palmar wrote:
Yes GMarshal, I think you're scum. But the thing is you're good at this game, I've read through PYPI and your posting almost didn't change at all when you turned mole, or not in a way I could've spotted the difference.

And don't get me wrong, I notice other things too. Amber and Rean were among the last people to switch to my lynch. What it comes down to is looking at the actions at hand. You see, there are tiny little things pointing in your direction. Most of the town probably wouldn't have cared if it was me or bum who got lynched, both were "confirmed" anti-town and useless. But you really made it your case that I should be the one dying.

I mean, your comments in that part were okay, there was logic and reason to them, but that's only what I'd expect of you, town or mafia.

But, even if I end up shooting you, you have 24 hours to win the game for us. Show us what you're made of, you're our best analyst. There is enough information on the board. Lead us to victory beyond your grave.

Why?

I've already done more than enough for you guys, I'm tired of being right and then being called scum for being right. You can't even provide analysis to prove to *anyone* that I am mafia, hence you have no justification for turning that gun on me.

Who made sure jackal died when people were all like "lol he is assassin"?
Who called out bum on his bs Night 1?
Who just provided the damning evidence that will kill DB?
Who pegged redFF as the last mafia?

I did. I fail to see why the hell I have to do all the work, this isn't a single player game.

But I digress, you want me to solve the game for you? I already did, DropBear and RedFF are scum, the miller is probably me or Amber. There is no third mafia.

I won already, I'd just like to not die, in case I'm wrong about redFF.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:06 GMT
#3313
On June 15 2011 05:00 Palmar wrote:
By the way GMarshal

are you killing stefftastiq tonight?

No, I kill people who I think are scum, and I don't think he is ^_^
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:10 GMT
#3314
On June 15 2011 05:03 redFF wrote:
How have I exposed 3 dt's?
I pushed for bum to be lynched over Palmar, but you idiots just followed GM. I have been totally open with my role and targeted people with it with results. I was the first to make a case against TDL, I pushed hard for Wiggle's lynch. I admit attacking Mataza wasn't correct but there is no way you can look at his posts and not think they are scummy as fuck.

You killed Kurumi, scum have just as much of an incentive to kill SK's as town.

You didn't kill Jackal lol. Rean inspected him and he came back black so we lynched him. Neither of these actions have made you "more townie".

Gm will continue with this bs about PYP:I and how he doesn't want me to win when he couldn't regardless of what I say. Just don't listen to his ramblings and lynch dropbear, shoot him. GM you should still sacrifice steff if you are town obviously because then he is probably the other scum.

"I pushed hard for wiggles lynch" is easy to say, when there was a DT on him *everyone* voted for wiggles. You exposed chaos13, and Rean and don't you fucking dare deny it. Actually as mafia there was *more* incentive to leave jackal alive than Barundar. barundar was fucked either way, jackal would have killed an additional townie and brought you closer to lylo, as well as probably making palmar mis shoot and having to waste a lynch on him. *I* pushed the jackal lynch, and theres absolutely no denying it, you guys were ready to let him sail by with his assassin claim.

And yes this *is* exactly PYP:I

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:14 GMT
#3316
On June 15 2011 05:10 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 05:06 GMarshal wrote:

Who made sure jackal died when people were all like "lol he is assassin"? yeah i'm pretty sure he was going to get lynched whether you were here or not lol
Who called out bum on his bs Night 1? everyone
Who just provided the damning evidence that will kill DB? he was getting lynched anyway
Who pegged redFF as the last mafia? LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL, if anybody else seriously thinks i am scum please come forward with reasoning

My comments in bold.
GM you keep calling out for people to analyse and provide reasons if you call someone mafia so why not do it for me? It shouldn't be difficult if i am so clearly scum.

Easy, I don't even need to do a PBP

You exposed chaos13 as a watcher
You exposed rean as a DT
You randomly call people scum, and never back up your reasoning
You don't want us to think but rather to sheep.

These are the traits of a new mafia player who *thinks* he is being clever and subtle and building cred as a bad town and building thread control.

Fact is, the moment anyone opposes anything you say, you immediately move to kill them.

When I flip green, your death warrant is signed.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:25 GMT
#3318
On June 15 2011 05:20 redFF wrote:
If you are town than the worst thing you did is saying that if you flip green i am auto-scum. I'm just pushing the logical ideas here, which are killing into the list with 2/4 scum made by a confirmed dt. GM is too good to do that as town.

I pushed that "logical" idea in PYP:I

Turns out it would have damned the town.

You are the lead person pushing that. I'm 80% sure theres a miller on that list.

If you are scum you have to cover up any evidence against that as quickly and heavily as possible, its not a matter of choice, you *have* to. I baited you with the miller comment, you immediately called me scum and accused me of bussing DB, that is what is called taking the bait.

You fell for my trap. *that* is what makes you scum.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#3321
On June 15 2011 05:32 redFF wrote:
that would work except i said you were scum before you said there could be a miller lol. Even if what you were saying is true, you mentioned millers, i called you scum, that doesn't make me automatically scum lol.

Flat out lie.

this came before this

So, you fell for my trap, are now lying about it and better yet, denying the strength of the trap.

Caught you! ^_^
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:38 GMT
#3322
On June 15 2011 05:34 redFF wrote:
Steff how much have you and GM been pming each other since he added you to his pm circle? Have you guys had a lot of pro-town discussion? Has he given a reason for inducting you? Look at the timestamp for this post and tell me how much you guys have been making use of your pm circle.

Not at all, I'm too busy defending myself from baseless accusations, and steff thinks I'm going to kill him so has no reason to chat. (I'm probably not going to kill him btw)

Stop changing the topic, scum.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 14 2011 20:39 GMT
#3323
EBOP, first this was a broken url
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