EPTIs that part of your role or are you just spamming like an idiot?
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Is that part of your role or are you just spamming like an idiot? | ||
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And here is the BUT: Giving info about who you picked for is painting targets on people and no one knows on whom the targets are. They can easily interrupt confirmation chains by killing every second person along a string. They kill x people and discredit x people while they do it. Additionally they know their own roles as the ones they´ve picked for others they gain a HUGE knowledge advantage. What we should instead do is make known the number of killing and misinformation capable roles. That´s the bad stuff. Especially the Killing Power. Either the scum team is stacked with those or there are mechanics we don´t know anything about yet. I talked about that before. Because without killing power, misinformation, or alternate kill mechanics, this game is practically impossible for mafia to win. | ||
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Your entire point was to claim so you can verify claims later on. If you take that part away, the only thing your plan would be good for is stopping mafia to back up each others roleclaims. BUT they wouldn´t be able to do that if they would not know who picked their role. So what is the point of your plan again? | ||
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Your plan prevents something from happening that won´t happen unless your plan was done already. You say w/out your plan mafia can claim any role they want. But they can´t unless they somehow find out who created their roles. And right now your plan reveals exactly that. | ||
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I thought Amber could only bark and tailwag. And then I question Viscera being on it. Maybe that is because I know him from last game. But he said at one point he is picking up no scumread and he is just waiting for something big happening. I´m not aware of a reason he should be on the fabled zodiac list, let alone Sandroba which Amber voted for. On second thought, why the HELL is Sandroba on Ambers list? I assume this to be a lie until Amber barks personally. ##vote redff | ||
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On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote: We are done discussing a plan that will not be put into place. Both sides have been pretty clearly laid out. Instead answer these questions. 1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight 2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow 3.) what is your favorite colour 4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest? Since its directed at me: 1) I wouldn´t shoot. If I was compulsive, I´d shoot cthsazsa. Few posts, even less content. 2) This is hard to say. Dropbear over Cobbler. 3) This is not a dating show 4) Right now, redff. Before that, Palmar. If I could include more(seem means plural) Varpulis, Chaos13 and Kitaman 27 too. | ||
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On June 01 2011 08:15 redFF wrote: Mataza, you have posted nothing of use this game. And you saying you are voting me until Amber wiggles his tail to confirm i posted his list is a huge contradiction to something you seemed pretty steadfast on before. So you are certain I'm scum and won't change your vote? I am very suspicious of your list, because Sandroba is on the list. Amber is voting Sandroba right now. I thought I bolded that part. This list is a direct contradiction to Ambers vote. | ||
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That´s 7 hours ago. I know you were online at least 5 hours ago in irc and also continuously from 2 hours ago to about 1 hour ago. As from time of this post, you posted the list about 1 hour ago. Either Amber just came online just a bit before you posted the list, or the list should have been in you pm box for several hours, during which you were online and did not post it. | ||
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If Amber came online to PM you the list right before you posted it, Amber could as well show up in the thread that time. | ||
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On June 01 2011 08:48 redFF wrote: sigh..Do i really have to explain this to you. My memory is foggy and i really can't be bothered to convert korean times to eastern but ill try to explain. Last night I pm'd amber with a list of players and asked him to quote the list and wiggle his tail for town and grr for scum. He then quoted a post by gm about zodiac lists, bolded the zodiac list part and then bolded a bunch of player lists. I checked my pm's early this morning before I went out and saw what he did. I got home at like 4:30 today and went on irc, so i've been on irc for about 3 and a half hours...(its 8 now) I pm'd amber for confirmation that he wanted me to post his zodiac list and he wiggled his tail, so i did...Please stop lol. He apologizes with a foggy memory for things that happened 1-3 hours ago. I would have believe that if he said he was extremely drunk. Also if Amber answered his PM, it means Amber was online. Why didn´t Amber post even once in the thread? I do hope Amber will talk again sometime today. Until then I´m assuming Amber can´t talk because of your role power. On Tackster, I find it hilarious that people actually say he is all over TL posting and spamming. If you check his profile it say 3 posts in the last 7 days. All of which are obviously in this game. I agree on his low posting quality though. He will probably not make town MVP, but in my book he is an inactive player more than everything else. I am puzzled by tnkted however. He is taunting us with his invulnerability. [b]Absolute Invulnerability[/b], to be precise. Strange, but arguing about that is essentially wifom. Town would do that because of a power complex, and scum would do that because it´s a nice bluff. If he is indeed invulnerable, it would automatically mean he is town and not the mole, because a freaking invulnerable scum would be kinda op. So no, I don´t think he is invulnerable at all. | ||
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I may have misread, but I think someone mentioned that he changed his posting behaviour because of RL drama. Can´t find the post now, but I think it was said. *I do not defend his shoddy posting quality, I attack the argument that he should be more active because he was in the past.* If he actually didn´t have any RL problems, I am of course wrong here. My bad. My "defense" of Varpulis consisted of me saying his name along with a few others and then saying he was posting quirky even before he got his alignment. And nice theory there. I am scum, therefore everyone I defend is scum too. Now please tell me how are events that are at best 3 hours in the past are foggy in your mind? That´s a weak excuse at best. Either Amber was online around the time you posted(and he didn´t post anything) or you didn´t post the list for several hours despite you being online. How can you not remember? | ||
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I would think it pretty strange that votes on tackster straightout become invalid. It would be gamebreaking like tnkteds claim that he cannot be lynched nor killed. I just cannot imagine those things to be in the game. | ||
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My fear though is that tnkted, if his role is really as good as he states, will not ever feel pressured at all, even if he is on the list. On the other hand, I still fear that redff´s role might prevent Amber from posting. If Amber doesn´t post anymore today, I would like a medic to throw a little lifesaver his way, so we can ask questions tomorrow. @stefftastiq Drop the fear. The insecurity you are emitting is cringeworthy. If you think your analysis is weak, don´t show it. Act like its the best analysis ever. I know you from snmm2, and I´m happy that you are actively participating this time. However, remind yourself that all the vets in this game are as clueless as we are. I am pretty sure about that at this point. | ||
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What doesn´t sit well with me is that redff immediately put FoS on me and anyone I have defended in his eyes. Or that he apologized with hazy memory of the then recent last 3 hours. And now Kurumi is at it again >.< | ||
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GMarshal threatened Kurumi with a bullet too. I strongly recommend to not policy shoot at night. For all we know Mafia could be stacked with kp roles. I said this earlier, but there is clearly a gray area in this game. Mafia has fixed 1 kp, so they must have other means of killing us. If they indeed have lots of killing roles, announcing policy shots looks pretty antitown to me. | ||
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fact: tnkted got voted on before tackster, so no, he the "tnkted train" didn´t suddenly come to life, it was there beforehand. "Sandro train" was started by a fricking dog. Of these 3 I would be most ok with losing tackster, as he is the least useful. What I would prefer is lynching someone like tnkted. if he speaks the truth its essentially a no lynch to vote him. | ||
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