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On June 12 2011 09:31 Cthsazsa wrote: Town stop getting sheeped by GMarshal -___- he did the exact same thing in the Palmar lynch.
Jackal admitted, he's done. There's no way he's going to win. He is offering us help to kill scum why the hell are you all turning it down??
Lynch Barundar today. Jackal kills Karshe. Palmar kills GMarshal. By tomorrow we'll have two scum and one 3rd party dead. If we can't find a better lynch, we can lynch Jackal tomorrow.
Oh yes, let's ask kindly if Jackal would agree to shoot someone for us when he has no fucking reason to do so. And while we're at it, let's shoot someone that's very likely not mafia, and pray to whatever god there is that he is indeed a assassin and not a townie!
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I'm going to shoot GMarshall. Amazing how he just screams LYNCH JACKAL yet he's not denied being an assassin himself.
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I am town, dammit. Why are you giving Amber a free pass on Palmar's lynch list, Cthsazsa? If he has some sort of useful town ability, he hasn't helped us with it yet.
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On June 12 2011 09:48 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 09:31 Cthsazsa wrote: Town stop getting sheeped by GMarshal -___- he did the exact same thing in the Palmar lynch.
Jackal admitted, he's done. There's no way he's going to win. He is offering us help to kill scum why the hell are you all turning it down??
Lynch Barundar today. Jackal kills Karshe. Palmar kills GMarshal. By tomorrow we'll have two scum and one 3rd party dead. If we can't find a better lynch, we can lynch Jackal tomorrow. Oh yes, let's ask kindly if Jackal would agree to shoot someone for us when he has no fucking reason to do so. And while we're at it, let's shoot someone that's very likely not mafia, and pray to whatever god there is that he is indeed a assassin and not a townie!
How are you so damn sure that Karshe isn't mafia, and that GM isn't an assassin? Why do you flat-out refuse that Jackal could actually be telling the truth, when he has no reason to lie?
Quit relying on that old gut of yours because it's going to be the fucking death of us all. Quit being so damn lazy and put effort into your arguments.
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On June 12 2011 09:56 Karshe wrote: I am town, dammit. Why are you giving Amber a free pass on Palmar's lynch list, Cthsazsa? If he has some sort of useful town ability, he hasn't helped us with it yet.
He claims protecting Rean and for some reason everyone seems to believe that the Dog who hasn't contributed squat must be Town!
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On June 12 2011 10:00 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 09:56 Karshe wrote: I am town, dammit. Why are you giving Amber a free pass on Palmar's lynch list, Cthsazsa? If he has some sort of useful town ability, he hasn't helped us with it yet. He claims protecting Rean and for some reason everyone seems to believe that the Dog who hasn't contributed squat must be Town!
What the hell is this shit? He asks you why you give him a free pass, and then you proceed to say you think he's scummy? Some major contradictions there. Not to mention that since you're so 100% sure Karshe is mafia you're also indirectly saying you think Amber is town.
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On June 12 2011 10:05 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:00 Cthsazsa wrote:On June 12 2011 09:56 Karshe wrote: I am town, dammit. Why are you giving Amber a free pass on Palmar's lynch list, Cthsazsa? If he has some sort of useful town ability, he hasn't helped us with it yet. He claims protecting Rean and for some reason everyone seems to believe that the Dog who hasn't contributed squat must be Town! What the hell is this shit? He asks you why you give him a free pass, and then you proceed to say you think he's scummy? Some major contradictions there. Not to mention that since you're so 100% sure Karshe is mafia you're also indirectly saying you think Amber is town.
Where did I call Amber scummy, I can't seem to find it. O YA I never said Karshe is 100% scum either. I am, however, very confident that he is. The puzzle piece seems to fit, as he would have said.
How about you quit ignoring the questions posed upon you. How are you so damn sure that Karshe isn't mafia, and that GM isn't an assassin? Why do you flat-out refuse that Jackal could actually be telling the truth, when he has no reason to lie?
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Why the hell would you guys gonna let a [RED]CONFIRMED SCUM[/RED] live another night, just to lynch a fucking 3rd Party assassin? Are you guys shitting me right now?
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On June 12 2011 10:18 Cthsazsa wrote:Why the hell would you guys gonna let a CONFIRMED SCUM live another night, just to lynch a fucking 3rd Party assassin? Are you guys shitting me right now? 
FML
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On June 12 2011 09:53 Jackal58 wrote: I'm going to shoot GMarshall. Amazing how he just screams LYNCH JACKAL yet he's not denied being an assassin himself. Let me formally deny it then. I'm not an assassin. There are no fucking assassins in this game.
We would have flipped at least one already.
Now die you goddamned serial killer.
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On June 12 2011 10:18 Cthsazsa wrote:Why the hell would you guys gonna let a CONFIRMED SCUM live another night, just to lynch a fucking 3rd Party assassin? Are you guys shitting me right now?  The "assassin" is a serial killer. And has a gun, which brings us closer to lylo, again fewer anti-town KP is something we *need* right now. LYLO cannot be that far off right now, so reducing the number of kills is a *good* thing.
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Why redFF is the remaining Mafia
redFF has the role of interrogator. He has been steadily building up knowledge of all the roles that were either unrevealed or difficult to determine at the time. I think he's been using it to coordinate the Mafia hits.
VOTING
His voting, while necessary for his role, allows him to escape taking sides on anything important. He can throw wild accusations freely without any accountability should he be wrong. He could easily have picked any of the lynch targets to mason and get some info to share with the town. From my understanding of his claim, there was nothing to stop him from switching his vote onto someone meaningful either.
Day 1
Votes and masons Amber. Gets information on his role that noone else can get.
Day 2
Votes and masons chaos13. Avoids voting for Wiggles.
Day 3
Votes and masons Rean. This was the most critical lynch of the game and he stayed right out of it. Not only this, Mafia attempts to shoot Rean that night, before his DT claim was made public.
Day 4
Votes and masons Eternalmisfit. Mafia shoot EM that night.
Day 5
Votes and masons Cthsazsa.
BEHAVIOUR
During the game, redFF's contributions have basically been abusing players. There has been no analysis, no reasoning, just yelling at people. It's just been spam and all caps posting which has made the thread much, much harder to read, which is definitely pro-Mafia.
red spent 2 days tunnelling Mataza, distracting from any other discussion. He went after Torte only after he was pretty much dead following the roleblocking enlightenment.
He is only acting on accusing people once DT checks or role abilities are used and he has no choice anymore. He has been extremely unhelpful otherwise.
redFF is Mafia.
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Jackal cut the bullshit, you sound as stupid as the town .
As I said I'm fine with being lynched.
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Karshe is almost definitely town. There is no way he would have used his bomb on bumatlarge otherwise. He could have made any number of legitimate excuses to avoid using that bomb and he caused Mafia to lose 2 members in one day.
GMarshal was roleblocked by Torte on Night 1. If he was Mafia, there is no way they would have allowed this to happen.
I don't believe Jackal58 for a second on his assassin claim. He suddenly busts out a super Mafia list now that he's been revealed by Rean. He has every reason to lie about it.
Cthsazsa and Amber I have no idea.
Lynch Jackal58 today, Palmar shoot Barundar tonight, then we lynch redFF tomorrow.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2011 16:38 DropBear wrote:Why redFF is the remaining Mafia redFF has the role of interrogator. He has been steadily building up knowledge of all the roles that were either unrevealed or difficult to determine at the time. I think he's been using it to coordinate the Mafia hits.
VOTING His voting, while necessary for his role, allows him to escape taking sides on anything important. He can throw wild accusations freely without any accountability should he be wrong. He could easily have picked any of the lynch targets to mason and get some info to share with the town. From my understanding of his claim, there was nothing to stop him from switching his vote onto someone meaningful either. Day 1Votes and masons Amber. Gets information on his role that noone else can get. Day 2Votes and masons chaos13. Avoids voting for Wiggles. Day 3Votes and masons Rean. This was the most critical lynch of the game and he stayed right out of it. Not only this, Mafia attempts to shoot Rean that night, before his DT claim was made public.Day 4Votes and masons Eternalmisfit. Mafia shoot EM that night. Day 5Votes and masons Cthsazsa.
BEHAVIOUR During the game, redFF's contributions have basically been abusing players. There has been no analysis, no reasoning, just yelling at people. It's just been spam and all caps posting which has made the thread much, much harder to read, which is definitely pro-Mafia. red spent 2 days tunnelling Mataza, distracting from any other discussion. He went after Torte only after he was pretty much dead following the roleblocking enlightenment. He is only acting on accusing people once DT checks or role abilities are used and he has no choice anymore. He has been extremely unhelpful otherwise. redFF is Mafia.
You're ignoring the fact that your name is on the list of scum that Jackal provided. Are you going to address that or hope no one notices it and let it slide?
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Despite everything you listed DropBear, hardly any of that incriminates redFF as scum.
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On June 12 2011 16:47 Cthsazsa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2011 16:38 DropBear wrote:Why redFF is the remaining Mafia redFF has the role of interrogator. He has been steadily building up knowledge of all the roles that were either unrevealed or difficult to determine at the time. I think he's been using it to coordinate the Mafia hits.
VOTING His voting, while necessary for his role, allows him to escape taking sides on anything important. He can throw wild accusations freely without any accountability should he be wrong. He could easily have picked any of the lynch targets to mason and get some info to share with the town. From my understanding of his claim, there was nothing to stop him from switching his vote onto someone meaningful either. Day 1Votes and masons Amber. Gets information on his role that noone else can get. Day 2Votes and masons chaos13. Avoids voting for Wiggles. Day 3Votes and masons Rean. This was the most critical lynch of the game and he stayed right out of it. Not only this, Mafia attempts to shoot Rean that night, before his DT claim was made public.Day 4Votes and masons Eternalmisfit. Mafia shoot EM that night. Day 5Votes and masons Cthsazsa.
BEHAVIOUR During the game, redFF's contributions have basically been abusing players. There has been no analysis, no reasoning, just yelling at people. It's just been spam and all caps posting which has made the thread much, much harder to read, which is definitely pro-Mafia. red spent 2 days tunnelling Mataza, distracting from any other discussion. He went after Torte only after he was pretty much dead following the roleblocking enlightenment. He is only acting on accusing people once DT checks or role abilities are used and he has no choice anymore. He has been extremely unhelpful otherwise. redFF is Mafia. You're ignoring the fact that your name is on the list of scum that Jackal provided. Are you going to address that or hope no one notices it and let it slide? His entire accusation of me is "bum told me so." Why should I bother responding to it? He's been caught and he's trying to shit the place up before he goes. I'm not worried about being on his list at all.
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On June 12 2011 16:50 Cthsazsa wrote: Despite everything you listed DropBear, hardly any of that incriminates redFF as scum. Why not?
Avoiding taking sides on anything important? Common Mafia trait.
Getting free access to information not available to anyone else and failing to use it for town benefit? Pro-Mafia.
Rean gets shot before anyone has any idea what his role is? And redFF masons him right beforehand? Huge Mafia play.
Shitting up the thread to make it difficult to scum hunt? Pro-Mafia.
Tunnel the same guys for 2 days straight when he's far from the town focus? That's what I did when I was a Mafioso in XXXVIII.
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Jackal has every reason to lie about it? Wtf are those reasons? Jackal's been revealed, his game is over, there's no chance in him winning anymore. Why the hell would he make that up, just to screw town over? Hell, Jackal has been playing better then some of the townies here.
As for Karshe, he had no choice but to put a bomb on bum. That's the only reason to even consider he's green. That is his only alibi. Go back and read my two posts if you don't believe me when I say he's scum.
As for GMarshal, he definitely isn't living up to the town-leader expectation that everyone seems to have of him. The fact that he was roleblocked even more causes me to believe that he's not scum but 3rd party.
Ruling out the chance of having 3 assassins with the only pitiful argument that "We would have found one by now herp derp" is the shittiest excuse ever. For all we know and with the way this crazyass game plays, Amber could be the 3rd assassin and I wouldn't be fucking surprised if he was.
I'm actually starting to consider that Jackal's list might legitimate.
Lynch Barundar, shoot Karshe, Jackal claims he will shoot GM, and lynch Jackal tomorrow.
We can figure shit out from there.
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