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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 09 2011 08:40 GMT
#2861
did we ever find out how torte's roleblock worked?
Computer says mafia
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 09 2011 08:42 GMT
#2862
Nope, but once he dies we will know and according to Meapak that'll give us quite a bit of information.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 09 2011 08:43 GMT
#2863
yeah ok, I was worried it might be something like "quote him and get roleblocked, but he can only make 7 posts per cycle".

Anyway, I guess the lynch will explain it to us.

At the moment I'm shooting Hiro tonight.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 09 2011 09:03 GMT
#2864
Also, someone suggested DT checking Hiro, I really think that's a waste tbh

If the vote-check lists are right, Hiro has a 50% chance of being mafia, and if he's town, it confirms Barundar. Either way, we shoot him, and then lynch the other if the first one flips town. Bumatlarge and Torte De Lini should die before the night.

Rean, I assume you know Amber's role now, based on your question directed at him?

Another good reason for shooting hiro is that we know there are two mafia on my lynch train. If bumatlarge flips scum, then we know there's only one there, and hiro is on it. It really helps narrowing down the remaining mafia.

If hiro flips town I suggest we DT check GMarshal. Eternalmisfit, Karshe, Rean and Cthsazsa all have pro town actions on record, and while that is no proof, it should be stronger than just pro-town posting.

If Bum flips red and hiro flips red, and Kurumi yet again fails to day, I think we have to lynch Kurumi tomorrow, we just can't avoid it anymore.
Computer says mafia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
June 09 2011 09:14 GMT
#2865
ON HIRO PROTAGONIST


Hiro is on both votecheck lists provided by Rean. He has much lower activity than many of the players remaining.


DAY 1
Jumped on the Viscera Train late, helping it get over the line at the last minute. The only reasoning given is this:
On June 02 2011 05:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
unless vis steps up, I might switch to him at this point




DAY 2
Once Mr Wiggles is brought up as red:

On June 03 2011 06:45 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 06:44 Cthsazsa wrote:
On June 03 2011 06:40 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:
GUYS!
I promise Wiggles is lying.
I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone".
I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed Scum

Mr. Wiggles,


If you created desks role, and you where scum, and you knew you had a framer, you would do it...





That is a HUGE wifom and a HUGE "what if". Why are you so easily defending him, scum?.

If someone kills Wiggles now, and he flips green, you guys will know I am scum.
But I promise you, the above will never happen.


because I know something you dont.

Which is?????????

On June 03 2011 06:57 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, Wiggles does have a gun. I was not sure about Cthsazsa being town. still not. but Im not gonna trap him like I thought I could. It now seems very implausible that Wiggles is town. but It must be a lynch and not a bullet.

##Fistpound Palmer



No shit it's unlikely he's town, he was flipped in the day post. Only now it is obvious he is toast are you willing to admit this. You don't have a choice except to bus anymore.

On June 03 2011 07:01 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 07:00 Cthsazsa wrote:
hiro why are you suddenly changing your mind about Wiggles? Because no one else believes you?

I honestly can't tell if your just a bad town or bad scum.


I gave you my reason

Which was????????

On June 03 2011 07:20 hiro protagonist wrote:
OK, we have are lynch targets for today: Wiggles, Bum. which should we off first? on one hand, we know wiggles role. and he still has one more bullet to use. not good. I am not confident Bum has his powers. Wiggles might be the best lynch for tonight.

But then the God Damned Batman yells out from his grave and says for us to lynch sinani? I am confused as too why this was allowed, and what intentions are behind BC statement.

This is classic nothing post. Brings up lynch candidates but doesn't want to commit either way, then tries to divert discussion into BC's post.


On June 03 2011 14:53 hiro protagonist wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that theres a lot of talking going on outside this thread. -_______-
guess I will just have to wait till people come back here.

some thoughts: Wiggles has got to be the vote. As jackal pointed out, there is very little chance that Mafia could have planed that. They did not know his role, I did. (unless he revealed his role in some mansion pm, but that does not sound like wiggles, or there is some daytime dt). It also makes sense for him to use his bullets, as if he is hit, he has no more of them. good to get the most use as soon as possible. The only thing that bothers me is Desk as a hit. why kill him, as he was not terribly useful imo. should the very unlikely happen and Wiggles flips green, Cthsazsa becomes my top suspect, as he gave sinani his role.

##vote Mr. Wiggles

There is not a lot of discussion about the God Damned Batman's after death statement. I would like to hear what people have to say about this. Why did he say Lynch? does he know that it would not bring him back? does he think hes scum? Writing this, I realize no one can answer it. But it bugs me.

Im fucking confused

Tries to divert onto Cthsazsa and divert onto the BC discussion again.

He only switches over once it is apparent that there is no chance in hell of Wiggles getting out alive.



DAY 3

On June 08 2011 04:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
Im back. First, I want to say Im sorry. I pulled a bit of a kiti and soft raged quit after night 2. I was frustrated at the amount of town on town killings in 2 days. I was also frustrated that most of the real discussions seemed to be going on in mansion circles, which I was left out of... I did not know who to trust, and I had no leads. I felt useless

Now I come back to see a lot of really good discussion and leads. this has to be the turning point for us. I read up through the thread and have decided to vote Palmar. I am pinning my hopes on this because If Palmar flips scum then I can finally trust Jackal and GM. something I have been hesitant to do.

##vote Palmar



Ok so he goes after Palmar, someone who he didn't have on his radar, over bumatlarge who he was talking about Day 2, for the sake of being able to trust people he doesn't trust?

On June 08 2011 04:20 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 04:14 Cthsazsa wrote:
On June 08 2011 04:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
sorry Cthsazsa. you have been the model townie, in my eyes 100% green. thanks for being such a work horse for us. are you gonna switch your vote? if so why? cuz you are the one I trust the most.


And what have you done that helps town? Nothing. You and Sinani alike have been lurking almost the whole game.


Not the whole game -___-

I was mostly active up till night 2. But I do deserve some lashing for my disappearance. I am sorry.
Also, Palmars defense of me really makes me think he is mafia at this point. I don't see how anyone could say I'm mostly town...

So you vote Palmar, because he defends you? This is just weak reasoning for jumping on the train.



DAY 4

On June 09 2011 08:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 07:40 Palmar wrote:
this is of course assuming Bum blows up


This needs to be talked about more. We can not leave it to chance that bum will die. I think we should lynch him NOW. He should have been the last lynch. towns got plenty of KP that can be put on people likely to die from it. we got Palmar. Letws Lynch Bum

Bum is almost guaranteed to die to the bomb. What kind of role would be bulletproof day and night? That would be stupidly overpowered and there's no way deconduo would have allowed it. You are trying to stop the scum team losing 2 people in one day.

On June 09 2011 16:02 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 15:51 Barundar wrote:
Why would town lynch bum? I don't even get the reasoning, he claimed bullet proof at night, not at day.

Seems like a poor attempt to waste a KP for town. This is not over yet guys.


waste a KP? hardly. I don't believe a word bum says. your argument does not prove anything, The fact of the mater is, we don't know if that bomb is gonna kill him. Others are worried too. I just was talking about other options. And yes, this is far from over. the last thing we need to do, is waste KP on a townie. I would rather save bullets for known scum. We have a DT. check me. I will vote with town. after the night, then we see who is scummy

If Torte survives tonight, there's more roleblocks the following night. Same as the previous point. Trying desperately to save Torte.



CONCLUSION

Hiro has actively tried to derail the Wiggles and Torte lynches. He has been on last second trains on Viscera and Palmar with little or poor reasoning. He tried repeatedly to derail town concerning the BC post which was irrelevant at the time. He is on the votecheck lists.

Hiro Protagonist is Mafia.
Sucker for nostalgia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#2866
And I'm shooting that mafia tonight
Computer says mafia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
June 09 2011 09:22 GMT
#2867
On June 09 2011 18:17 Palmar wrote:
And I'm shooting that mafia tonight

Good
Sucker for nostalgia
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 09 2011 14:12 GMT
#2868
On June 09 2011 18:14 DropBear wrote:
ON HIRO PROTAGONIST


Hiro is on both votecheck lists provided by Rean. He has much lower activity than many of the players remaining.


DAY 1
Jumped on the Viscera Train late, helping it get over the line at the last minute. The only reasoning given is this:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 05:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
unless vis steps up, I might switch to him at this point




DAY 2
Once Mr Wiggles is brought up as red:

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 06:45 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 03 2011 06:44 Cthsazsa wrote:
On June 03 2011 06:40 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:
GUYS!
I promise Wiggles is lying.
I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone".
I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed Scum

Mr. Wiggles,


If you created desks role, and you where scum, and you knew you had a framer, you would do it...





That is a HUGE wifom and a HUGE "what if". Why are you so easily defending him, scum?.

If someone kills Wiggles now, and he flips green, you guys will know I am scum.
But I promise you, the above will never happen.


because I know something you dont.

Which is?????????

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 06:57 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, Wiggles does have a gun. I was not sure about Cthsazsa being town. still not. but Im not gonna trap him like I thought I could. It now seems very implausible that Wiggles is town. but It must be a lynch and not a bullet.

##Fistpound Palmer



No shit it's unlikely he's town, he was flipped in the day post. Only now it is obvious he is toast are you willing to admit this. You don't have a choice except to bus anymore.

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 07:01 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 03 2011 07:00 Cthsazsa wrote:
hiro why are you suddenly changing your mind about Wiggles? Because no one else believes you?

I honestly can't tell if your just a bad town or bad scum.


I gave you my reason

Which was????????

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 07:20 hiro protagonist wrote:
OK, we have are lynch targets for today: Wiggles, Bum. which should we off first? on one hand, we know wiggles role. and he still has one more bullet to use. not good. I am not confident Bum has his powers. Wiggles might be the best lynch for tonight.

But then the God Damned Batman yells out from his grave and says for us to lynch sinani? I am confused as too why this was allowed, and what intentions are behind BC statement.

This is classic nothing post. Brings up lynch candidates but doesn't want to commit either way, then tries to divert discussion into BC's post.


Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 14:53 hiro protagonist wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that theres a lot of talking going on outside this thread. -_______-
guess I will just have to wait till people come back here.

some thoughts: Wiggles has got to be the vote. As jackal pointed out, there is very little chance that Mafia could have planed that. They did not know his role, I did. (unless he revealed his role in some mansion pm, but that does not sound like wiggles, or there is some daytime dt). It also makes sense for him to use his bullets, as if he is hit, he has no more of them. good to get the most use as soon as possible. The only thing that bothers me is Desk as a hit. why kill him, as he was not terribly useful imo. should the very unlikely happen and Wiggles flips green, Cthsazsa becomes my top suspect, as he gave sinani his role.

##vote Mr. Wiggles

There is not a lot of discussion about the God Damned Batman's after death statement. I would like to hear what people have to say about this. Why did he say Lynch? does he know that it would not bring him back? does he think hes scum? Writing this, I realize no one can answer it. But it bugs me.

Im fucking confused

Tries to divert onto Cthsazsa and divert onto the BC discussion again.

He only switches over once it is apparent that there is no chance in hell of Wiggles getting out alive.



DAY 3

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 04:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
Im back. First, I want to say Im sorry. I pulled a bit of a kiti and soft raged quit after night 2. I was frustrated at the amount of town on town killings in 2 days. I was also frustrated that most of the real discussions seemed to be going on in mansion circles, which I was left out of... I did not know who to trust, and I had no leads. I felt useless

Now I come back to see a lot of really good discussion and leads. this has to be the turning point for us. I read up through the thread and have decided to vote Palmar. I am pinning my hopes on this because If Palmar flips scum then I can finally trust Jackal and GM. something I have been hesitant to do.

##vote Palmar



Ok so he goes after Palmar, someone who he didn't have on his radar, over bumatlarge who he was talking about Day 2, for the sake of being able to trust people he doesn't trust?

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 04:20 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 08 2011 04:14 Cthsazsa wrote:
On June 08 2011 04:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
sorry Cthsazsa. you have been the model townie, in my eyes 100% green. thanks for being such a work horse for us. are you gonna switch your vote? if so why? cuz you are the one I trust the most.


And what have you done that helps town? Nothing. You and Sinani alike have been lurking almost the whole game.


Not the whole game -___-

I was mostly active up till night 2. But I do deserve some lashing for my disappearance. I am sorry.
Also, Palmars defense of me really makes me think he is mafia at this point. I don't see how anyone could say I'm mostly town...

So you vote Palmar, because he defends you? This is just weak reasoning for jumping on the train.



DAY 4

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 08:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 09 2011 07:40 Palmar wrote:
this is of course assuming Bum blows up


This needs to be talked about more. We can not leave it to chance that bum will die. I think we should lynch him NOW. He should have been the last lynch. towns got plenty of KP that can be put on people likely to die from it. we got Palmar. Letws Lynch Bum

Bum is almost guaranteed to die to the bomb. What kind of role would be bulletproof day and night? That would be stupidly overpowered and there's no way deconduo would have allowed it. You are trying to stop the scum team losing 2 people in one day.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 16:02 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 09 2011 15:51 Barundar wrote:
Why would town lynch bum? I don't even get the reasoning, he claimed bullet proof at night, not at day.

Seems like a poor attempt to waste a KP for town. This is not over yet guys.


waste a KP? hardly. I don't believe a word bum says. your argument does not prove anything, The fact of the mater is, we don't know if that bomb is gonna kill him. Others are worried too. I just was talking about other options. And yes, this is far from over. the last thing we need to do, is waste KP on a townie. I would rather save bullets for known scum. We have a DT. check me. I will vote with town. after the night, then we see who is scummy

If Torte survives tonight, there's more roleblocks the following night. Same as the previous point. Trying desperately to save Torte.



CONCLUSION

Hiro has actively tried to derail the Wiggles and Torte lynches. He has been on last second trains on Viscera and Palmar with little or poor reasoning. He tried repeatedly to derail town concerning the BC post which was irrelevant at the time. He is on the votecheck lists.

Hiro Protagonist is Mafia.


*sniff sniff...*
*wiggles his tail*
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 09 2011 15:02 GMT
#2869
good dog

I think he agrees!
Computer says mafia
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
June 09 2011 15:23 GMT
#2870
Haha, oh well, your hitting green tonight. Palmar always seams to be the death of me

If you want to flip, why not hit Barundar? Why am I the only one thats under suspicion?
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#2871
On June 10 2011 00:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Haha, oh well, your hitting green tonight. Palmar always seams to be the death of me

If you want to flip, why not hit Barundar? Why am I the only one thats under suspicion?

Your death will affect two lists.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
June 09 2011 15:32 GMT
#2872
On June 10 2011 00:29 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 00:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
Haha, oh well, your hitting green tonight. Palmar always seams to be the death of me

If you want to flip, why not hit Barundar? Why am I the only one thats under suspicion?

Your death will affect two lists.


so would flipping Barunders. When he flips red, I come up town on both list too...
Its cool, I just hope Bum dies. Also, I will reveal my role before Palmar shoots, and give you what I know.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 09 2011 16:56 GMT
#2873
On June 09 2011 16:30 Rean wrote:
Amber[LighT], listen up. You're going to tell me who you targetted each night. Quote posts and growl at your night 1 target, wiggle your tail at the n2 target, bark loudly at the n3 target. Capiche? Good doggie.


Amber[LighT], i'm still waiting for your answer.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 09 2011 17:05 GMT
#2874
On June 09 2011 16:30 Rean wrote:
Amber[LighT], listen up. You're going to tell me who you targetted each night. Quote posts and growl at your night 1 target, wiggle your tail at the n2 target, bark loudly at the n3 target. Capiche? Good doggie.



On June 09 2011 06:18 Jackal58 wrote:
I was role blocked last night. A smiley free day!!!!!!
Now I'm going bowling. And drinking. Mostly drinking.
Fuck you smileys!!!!!!


*growls*


On June 09 2011 08:22 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:42 Eternalmisfit wrote:
@GM

Who did you try to kill last night?

Kurumi, it says so in the day post, I only had one member in my circle, so only one person I could attempt to sacrifice.

Also FUCK YEAH, my mistake has been redeemed, thanks sinani206, I owe you a post game beer

##Fistpound: Palmar


*wiggles his tail*
*barks loudly*
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 09 2011 17:22 GMT
#2875
I thought you were growling at me being role blocked. But I gotcha.
Also ##Fistpound Palmar.
Also I'm buried at work and won't be active til later tonight.
Also no fucking smileys.
Life can only kill you once.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 09 2011 17:24 GMT
#2876
On June 10 2011 02:22 Jackal58 wrote:
I thought you were growling at me being role blocked. But I gotcha.
Also ##Fistpound Palmar.
Also I'm buried at work and won't be active til later tonight.
Also no fucking smileys.


"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 09 2011 17:39 GMT
#2877
On June 10 2011 02:22 Jackal58 wrote:
I thought you were growling at me being role blocked. But I gotcha.
Also ##Fistpound Palmar.
Also I'm buried at work and won't be active til later tonight.
Also no fucking smileys.

Computer says mafia
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
June 09 2011 18:16 GMT
#2878
Going to vote for Torte since his flip will reveal information. Will be back later tonight to take part in any discussions going on then and seeing what happens to Mig.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 09 2011 18:52 GMT
#2879
On June 09 2011 17:43 Palmar wrote:
yeah ok, I was worried it might be something like "quote him and get roleblocked, but he can only make 7 posts per cycle".

Anyway, I guess the lynch will explain it to us.

At the moment I'm shooting Hiro tonight.


Not even close, try again?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#2880
if you were pro-town, you'd just tell us?
Computer says mafia
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