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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 08 2011 21:06 GMT
#2721
The list of mostly confirmed townies:
Karshe
Palmar(this is certain though)
redFF
EM

I needed to trick GM in thinking I am shooting redFF though
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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:07 GMT
#2722
Well I was holding back on my TDL analysis to not distract from getting bum killed. As that seem to have solved itself I'll post it:

Torte De Lini analysis

+ Show Spoiler +
We know the following about Torte de Lini

1) It is his first game
2) He has a role with a posting restriction, but massive roleblocking potential (3 targets one night)

A new town player is often appalled by the amounts of posts in a game of mafia. They are however eager to try the game, and often put a lot of effort into it. This is because every person naturally thinks he/she is special, and will make a difference. We all know that new town players are often misled, make a ton of mistakes, and can easily be more of a detriment to their team than an asset, but they are always eager to prove themselves. New town players wants to make an impact on the game. Often they fail at it, becomes tired of reading, gets very apologetic or self hating, but they always start out wanting to contribute.

TDL is in this game assigned a role with a posting limitation. We know this, because Meapak designed it, and he was green. If you know anything to TDL’s general posting habits on the forum, you know he is posting eagerly, border lining spammy. He can also write pages long blogs without problems. If he wants to ague, he is more than capable of it.

His posting in this game starts out by being short and meaningless. In his first post he fucks up by saying it’s an advantage that no one can tell his alignment, being a new player. Woops, the least a townie is concerned about when he start the game is his alignment. His next post tries to excuse that.

You can call that a noob mistake regardless of alignment. But what’s important is that 1) he is ignoring the current discussion in thread. 2) He has just wasted two of his precious posts on nothing. Both of these things goes against making an impact. New town players makes mistakes with their opinion. New mafia players, they just want to slip by.

His next post of the day (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=24#462) is the most condemning. Notice the repetition in the questions, and notice the missing words in the second sentence. The post shows sign of 1) extensive editing, where words and sentences gets mixed up, 2) being a “post and forget” type of post. Number 1 is a sign of mafia trying to make his contribution for the day, which eventually has to be fake. Number two is a sign of not actually wanting to follow up on the discussion, he just wants others to spend time answering them. Both are clear mafia signs, and should have raised huge red flags.

After getting called out on the above post he plays the noob card the rest of the day. His posts are filled with guilt however, you can tell that he is feeling pressured, even if he is just a name amongst many others. A stupid townie simply gets annoyed and shuts up, or goes offensive, TDL tries to look as small as possible.

A nice scumslip happens the day after (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=79#1571) . The post itself is characterized by being non substantial. Why would someone under a posting restriction post to say he should do something else before posting? But the funny thing is it is completely strapped of any suspicion. New players often see mafia everywhere, and don’t trust anyone. Torte doesn’t seem to be concerned with that at all, he is just fitting in. But notice the editing with regards to his vote. He has clearly not felt good about voting wiggles, and has tried to come up with a way to soften the impact... and failed, because he knows wiggles is guilty. This is such an obvious example of a newb scum struggling with himself to bus his own team mate that I can’t believe I haven’t noticed it sooner.

The day continues with more one liner spam that is completely uncharacteristic for a townie with a posting restriction. Since I don’t like repeating myself, you can read it yourself. He comes out to talk about his role and defend himself, but the main thing to notice is he is not at all concerned with finding mafia, and that he underlines how much of a noob he is. At this point his posting restriction is just a poor excuse for lurking his ass off.

Later in the day he put up a defence against redFF’s accusation (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=94#1873). This is a good post that finally shows us that TDL has the potential to be a very contributing player if he wants to. Just a pity that all he does with his time is to defend himself then, right? It doesn’t help that redFF’s case is bullshit. All in all TDL looks more town from this post than before, but it doesn’t tell us much of his alignment other than that he could contribute if he would. Rest of day is more of the same.

Conclusion:
From reading this analysis it should be clear that TDL is not playing to further the town goals. It is not his abilities that is lacking, it is his motives. There is several contradictions between his posting restriction and one line contributions. His posts are doing their best to avoid standing out. His contributions are post and forget contributions. And most importantly, he is not suspicious of anyone at all, and why would he be, he already knows the scum. All he is trying to do is to survive.

Bartundar
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
June 08 2011 21:07 GMT
#2723
On June 09 2011 06:06 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:05 Eternalmisfit wrote:
On June 09 2011 06:04 redFF wrote:
Eternalmisfit, why the fuck did you think you would die and claimed???
Lets see what you said
I'm medic.
I have no information to reveal.
Awesome job there bro really useful.


Since you and a couple others were asking vigi-hits on me last night. Or should I dig up those post for you?

Haha no don't trouble yourself scum, just outta interest who did you think would shoot you?


GM can sacrifice by including in circle. And we are still missing multiple role-claims buddy.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 08 2011 21:07 GMT
#2724
Everyone MUST fistpound Palmar.
Also Kurumi I don't think I will be listening to you but why is EM confirmed town?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 08 2011 21:08 GMT
#2725
On June 09 2011 06:07 redFF wrote:
Everyone MUST fistpound Palmar.
Also Kurumi I don't think I will be listening to you but why is EM confirmed town?

Just because You and him argue all the time,lol. Just mason him or something and talk on some private note,idk.
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Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 08 2011 21:09 GMT
#2726
Why is Kurumi still alive? I thought he was out of lives? I must remember his role wrong and I don't remember what page the description is on...
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 08 2011 21:09 GMT
#2727
And yes lol TDL is scum that should be obvious now great job there Barundar too bad you have done jack shit all game :D
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 08 2011 21:09 GMT
#2728
A wild Palmar appeared.

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Pokémon Run
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 08 2011 21:10 GMT
#2729
On June 09 2011 06:09 Karshe wrote:
Why is Kurumi still alive? I thought he was out of lives? I must remember his role wrong and I don't remember what page the description is on...

Because I am serial killer and GM only damaged one of my two vests. U mad?
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 08 2011 21:10 GMT
#2730
I will mason EM.
##Vote EM
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:11 GMT
#2731
On June 09 2011 06:09 redFF wrote:
And yes lol TDL is scum that should be obvious now great job there Barundar too bad you have done jack shit all game :D

Would have been helluva lot easier getting him lynched if you hadn't posted such a trash analysis of him :/
Bartundar
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 08 2011 21:11 GMT
#2732
If Em did protect Rean then Rean should know it also right? If so we should have a very small amount if non confirmed people left. Rean if you are a dt should just claim and give us all the info because if you were targeted last night mafia already suspects what you are.

I am fine with tdl lynch especially if there is a dt to back it.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 08 2011 21:12 GMT
#2733
On June 09 2011 06:11 Mig wrote:
If Em did protect Rean then Rean should know it also right? If so we should have a very small amount if non confirmed people left. Rean if you are a dt should just claim and give us all the info because if you were targeted last night mafia already suspects what you are.

I am fine with tdl lynch especially if there is a dt to back it.

Rean is medium,he gets random action revealed to him.
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Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
June 08 2011 21:12 GMT
#2734
On June 09 2011 06:12 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:11 Mig wrote:
If Em did protect Rean then Rean should know it also right? If so we should have a very small amount if non confirmed people left. Rean if you are a dt should just claim and give us all the info because if you were targeted last night mafia already suspects what you are.

I am fine with tdl lynch especially if there is a dt to back it.

Rean is medium,he gets random action revealed to him.


Steff claimed that role as far as I remember.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 08 2011 21:13 GMT
#2735
On June 09 2011 06:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:12 Kurumi wrote:
On June 09 2011 06:11 Mig wrote:
If Em did protect Rean then Rean should know it also right? If so we should have a very small amount if non confirmed people left. Rean if you are a dt should just claim and give us all the info because if you were targeted last night mafia already suspects what you are.

I am fine with tdl lynch especially if there is a dt to back it.

Rean is medium,he gets random action revealed to him.


Steff claimed that role as far as I remember.

Oh,then I've mistaken people,sorry
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 08 2011 21:14 GMT
#2736
Yea Steff did Steff what did you see? hopefully Steff saw who tried to shoot Rean.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 08 2011 21:15 GMT
#2737
Kurumi how did you shoot sinani? I thought you claimed 2 kills already.
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Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#2738
Lalala. Time to play my hand I suppose.

I'm the psychic. I can switch between alignment checks and votechecks. There's limitations to this to prevent it from being overpowered, but i'm not outing those. The important things are:

- There was one mafia on the VisceraEyes lynch day1.
- Torte de Lini is mafia.
- There were 2 mafia on the Palmar lynch.
- Last night, I was shot and saved.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#2739
I was role blocked last night. A smiley free day!!!!!!
Now I'm going bowling. And drinking. Mostly drinking.
Fuck you smileys!!!!!!
Life can only kill you once.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
June 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#2740
Show nested quote +
Original Message From redFF:
Hey my power also tells me the full role of the person I am pm'ing with at the end of the day. Roleclaim fully to me now, it's only a matter of time before I end up finding out your real role. :D
All hope is not lost for you btw. There is a shit ton of scummy posting and behaviour by you, plus evidence from checks and other stuff, but you aren't 100% scum like TOrte De Lini. Anything you have to say for yourself?


Buddy, I think you are scum. Nothing more and nothing less. So, I won't bother revealing my full role to someone who I consider scummy.


From my current PM communication with redFF. If the person who made my role wants to reveal my full role, he can do so but I don't feel the need to let scum know of what that restriction is.
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