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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
 And theres still 4 pages to read till I´m up to date  First of all, Palmar lied and probably now tries to trick us into giving him kp powers again.  Second redff is most probably townie according to my read, but being innocent doesn´t make him right.  My read the last 2 day tells me he has no clue about what´s going on in this game.  Coming back soon, when I caught up with the thread. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On June 06 2011 17:39 Barundar wrote: @Palmar read the day post again, Mataza has a bomb on him. Should give us some good information. Torte seems a lot scummier than you Palmar, but your defense is wifom. I'd love to see you post cases instead. What do you think of the lurkers Hiro Protagonist and Karshe, possibly others I have missed? I hope at least one of our detective type roles went and checked the lurkers. Stefftastiq, Hiro Protagonist and Karshe have all flown very much under the radar. There isn't really much to go on with any of them. I can provide some meta on all of them, but being new players, with only a game or two here, it might not be that useful. I would have expected Karshe to provide more content than he has. I know he's capable of analysis but he's provided almost nothing but questions and one liners since day 2. I wasn't suspicious of him after the first daylight cycle. The point is that he's impossible to get a read on. I don't think he's worth a hit at the moment. Stefftastiq is very careful, he always plays very careful. He accused tnkted and actually apologized for making the accusation. This could of course be read as scumtell, saying how light his accusations are, but I'm leaning towards it being genuine insecurity. Hiro Protagonist plays in the background but I think I'd have to call town on him over scum. The main reason being he claimed creating Wiggles's role and told us how it worked correctly. For some reason he tried to defend Wiggles at some point during day2, but he let himself be convinced. I don't think the mafia would have been bold enough to actually try to save MrWiggles after what happened on night 1. So, of the three, Karshe is worth looking better at. He might even be worth shooting if we can't get any other information out of him, as analysing someone with this little content might be really damn hard to do. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On June 06 2011 10:51 Palmar wrote: I don't know. Killing someone that has a 1/1 record of killing mafia/town just seems a bit unwise to me. If I shoot more townies, by all means, lynch me. This is a crap argument. We have probably around 8 or so killpower floating around this game, maybe more, maybe less. Imagine 8 guys with guns were going around at night with that attitude. This is happening right now and Town dies because of it. Yes, you got the lucky shot and won the molekilling lottery, but that´s nothing more than that, dumb luck.  Redff, I know you are trying hard. You didn´t react to my explanation yet which you so much requested. If that didn´t convince you, how about my flip in abvout 12 hours? I´m gonna reveal while I´m still alive:  I am the Stalker. I can go to a player's house during the night and watch who visits them. I can see what is done to them, but not who did it.  I am basically the same thing chaos13 was, only that I can only see actions and not people. I don´t get how other people think their roles are crap when I´m the guy who can confirm that the person dropping dead in the nightbreak was indeed killed.  Even worse, I watched tankted night 1. Nobody did investigate him. I watched Bum night 2. Nobody even attempted to kill him. Out of these little facts I can deduce the following: We probably don´t have a straightup alignment checker or those guys are idiots. And secondly, we probably don´t have a townsided kp or those who are townsided are idiots. I hoped that Bum would have a mafia doc on him to pretend he was unkillable. Also guess why claiming who you made what role for was forbidden day1? Probably because if you do it right it would lead to town victory. That´s my guess.  I we get a list of who TdL blocked night 1, we get basically a list of possible killpower. We need to put a stop to semi random shooting.  We should be playing "Mafia", what we are playing is "Morons with Guns" | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
Welcome Pandadude :p | ||
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stefftastiq
Norway205 Posts
the problem is that bum is 100% certain, Palmar is not - but if Palmar is scum then he might be linked to tnkted - which confirmed his lie when he first claimed his role. The question is how could tnkted be sure that Palmar was town - if they both were, when he first confirmed his lie about how the role was with the fistpounds and everything. - If Palmar lied and were scum wouldn tnkted call this lie? I dont really see a point of confirming Palmars lie about the role without knowing for certain that they were playing on the same team? @Mataza I can confirm your role :-p sorry for the lack of imagination when making it - i honesly had no idea of what level the roles were made in this game, atleast now when i see what kind of roles somebody got, saw you whined abit about it earlier, but its seems you have found a way to use it! wisely gl with the bomb :o Would also be nice to get a list of who are still in the game, after tnkted voted for coagulation - i even think i saw one post from him in this thread - is that right? :p i dont think noone ever cleared about tnkteds vote on someone not in the game - is that just ok? :p @Rean You menation a scummy circle - whos in it, why is it scummy? help town! | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
He would confirm it as there is no reason for mafia to try and hide survival power, especially by claiming a very strong killing power. It is however great reason for town to hide it to try and drag mafia hits. tnkted would've realized this and confirmed me, which greatly reduced my suspicions of him. I tried to make my role look very strong, in order to draw fire. I think there's a post from me somewhere during night 2 or late day 2, where I ask not to be protected by medics. tnkted is by no means clear when I flip town, but confirming my role was pro-town at the moment. This doesn't change the fact that he's been lurking. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
 , Jackal and Bum  It´s the awesome mass smilie role Though we don´t have it as bad as Amber. Amber is practically unable to communicate at all. | ||
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stefftastiq
Norway205 Posts
but isnt that in a point of view that you are town - if you put the same thoughts and say you are scum, tnkteds actions makes a lot of sense, doesnt it? except from maybe confirming the real role - but at that point you already were "town" so you guys are "cleared" I know how you and hiro played me (and the inactives) in snmm2 - its starting to look like the same play! - and thats kind of creepy | ||
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stefftastiq
Norway205 Posts
Who is the amnesiac leader? and who are the remaining members - doesnt compute with the smileys? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On June 06 2011 19:42 Barundar wrote: Mind updating the player list decon? Who did he replace? Has he claimed DT yet? Welcome Pandadude :p Will update in a bit. Trying to negotiate with people. Also, there was a typo in the day post. It should have read that the bomb on Mataza will explode in 48 hours. Apologies for the mistake. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
This is right and that makes me very suspicious of you.  | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Awesome  | ||
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stefftastiq
Norway205 Posts
Sorry, didnt see your question earlier ! This night i got a message that a post restriction imposting amnesiac recruited mataza, rean, bum and kitaman to a mason circle for 72 hours - which includes heavy use of smileys Rean claimed that this circle was "scummy" thats why I asked mataza earlier - he then did not mention kitaman and who the leader is afaik - but i now see that kitaman ofcourse is dead he did for some reason include chaos which was not in the ring (maybe he was earlier) - as he wasnt the "restriction imposting amnesiac" - it might be the dog? | ||
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stefftastiq
Norway205 Posts
im a medium - i know random shit :p | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
And I checked, Kitaman was indeed supposed to be part of this. And even if thats adds up, I have no intent of telling you how you can shut down the circle permanently.  | ||
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stefftastiq
Norway205 Posts
oh shiet! - mixed up jackal and chaos - my bad! - you included jackal tho ;-p | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
If I died in the middle of the day, it would confirm that everything I did so far was in good will. It would have meant a new spark to discussion 24 hours before lynch, while I actually can do almost everything I was going to do in 24 hours anyway.  | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
I'm not buying Bums claim. I think its a fakeclaim. No serial killer in his right mind would *ever* claim, especially not one as experienced as bum. The only reason bum would claim that is if he thought it would buy him a longer life expectancy. As far as being roleblocked, I'm not buying that either. From a balance perspective rb's either block serial killer KP or they don't. Anything else is a gimmick. Bum is lying to save his ass and is desperate to survive today for some unknown reason. I'm not going to let him if I can help it. | ||
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