Pick Your Power Insane!

On May 09 2011 04:09 Xedat wrote:
/in
This is my first time playing, I played a few SC2 UMS games of mafia and am following the current "main" Mafia game.
Do you think it is smart to play in this setup for the first time playing a proper forum mafia game? If not is there an estimated time when a more noob friendly game will be starting?

On May 10 2011 02:23 Barundar wrote:
Hm I can't keep track of you oldtimers. L?

On May 10 2011 18:52 Scamp wrote:


Nice. It's cool to be remembered by some since I've been away for quite a while. Tell her I say hi back and thanks, but I suspect you won't have to since she'll probably just read this.


I'm not sure if Ver misread my /in or if it wasn't explicitly clear enough. But if the game is full after Ace then I'll sign up as a replacement.

Jimbo suggested having 6 of the best town roles in the top 6 picks, although I would've added another slot for another medic pick. This plan deals with three problems in a plan where the controlled roles are in the top. First, it takes advantage of the fact that mafia is likely to get a pick in the top, but is unlikely to get multiple top slots. Thus, the plan allows town to maximize their picks of good pro-town roles. Secondly, the addition of two great defensive roles and a medic alongside parity cop, BB, and JOAT ensure that mafia can't just snipe the top of the list. Thirdly, moving the "controlled" list to the middle of the list hurts mafia because that's where the mafia are most likely to be concentrated. It also denies mafia further down the list the use of these dangerous roles.

Inventor should be making exclusively bulletproof vests. We cannot guarantee that Scamp is pro-town, therefore it is essential that we make sure he only hands out the most pro-town inventions. Bulletproof vests are excellent for town, and mediocre-poor to mafia

Assassin is an awesome pro-town role, and mostly useless to the mafia unless combined with a mafia role cop.

Should you succeed in your hit, you are refunded your kill to use again in the following cycle or later and nobody is the wiser. Should you fail, your target lives but you and your actions will be publically outted, your intended target outted, and you will permanently lose your powers.

Therefore I'm going to scope out suspects based on small posting with a clear sign of having interests elsewhere during the drafting and role picking stages.

I'm more used to chaoser and deconduo being much more active, regardless of alignment. These two are PMing, or on some IRC/forum chatting it up with scumbuddies about what their schemes are. I'll be putting my vote on chaoser.

##Vote Chaoser

On May 16 2011 23:41 Incognito wrote:
Whoever is the vote rigger should rig the votes into 4 sections of roughly equal sizes. Try to spread out the people with the same numbers onto different lists.

Chaoser- this might seem OMGUS, but his vote on me is entirely out of character, chaoser never just goes for an "easy" vote, yet he jumped on me for what I see as poor reasoning, something is off

On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:


Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.

My viewpoint is that the game starts after the roles have been picked. Any optimum picking strategy or awesome pick setup (like LSB's) just goes against my style of playing. I will be playing pro-town once the picks have gone through.

On May 17 2011 10:40 Ace wrote:
so besides deconduo wanting to die, no one else has anything to say about Incognito telling flamewheel to nuke people along with a host of accusations already on Day 1?

Ok guess I'll just go back to sleep again. This time I'll tuck my gun under my pillow.

In general i think that only mafia have something to fear from people applying pressure, as townies will be judged by their reactions. Incog telling pointing fingers and telling FW to nuke is exactly the sort of thing that generates discussion and information on people. For instance, if me and incog start pressuring a townie (esspecially if there's not a much of a reason to) and someone else jumps on, then you've just got your self someone who's looking awfully scummy.

On May 18 2011 07:13 bumatlarge wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +

Back to business, Chez you really think node is scum?

Time constraints aside (and he hypothetically made time to 'catch up' on the thread after he announced the completion of his interview), this isn't the Chaoser from XXXVIII. He's not being inactive; he's lurking. And all good marines kill lurkers on sight.

To all of you voting me, just think how I could possibly be mafia for a second. I come out and post about the vote rigger/list check combo, that apparently nobody else was even thinking about. There is absolutely no reason for me to do this as mafia.

Weren't Kavdragon and chaoser having an argument about 24 hours ago? I seem to remember the two of them taking up ~3 pages of posts.

On May 18 2011 14:02 Kavdragon wrote:


This turn around is BS.

If you look at the people pushing for me to get lynched I would guess its nearly all townies. Mafia would want someone else lynched as lynching me doesn't help them at all. They would be pushing for me to get shot during the night.

On May 19 2011 13:57 Foolishness wrote:

We're probably better off just waiting until tomorrow and seeing if another invention comes up. If the copycat is in the town's hands, he can just make a name that's really pro town (e.g. vote check kit) to let us know.

On May 19 2011 14:36 KillerSOS wrote:
Why would you share that you are king? That's a dangerous thing to tell us.

On May 19 2011 14:42 Ace wrote:
Well as King he has to lynch, so this is for sure a double lynch.

Assuming one of Incog or Chez is green and one is red, who is your other suspect out of the 6? Which players do you have a pro-town read on and which an anti-town read. If Incognito was day vigged today, who would your second suspect be?

I'm sorry if you guys were hoping to be higher up on the draft order, though I must say I'm kind of glad that I ended up in the middle. I don't mind getting a slightly-less-controversial blue role, hopefully.

I do apologize for not having posted a great deal since the game started. It's been a while since my last game of Mafia, and I feel extremely rusty and deeply unwilling to just post for the sake of posting when I really don't know what I'm talking about.

I'm sorry that my posts often sound like other people's and frequently focus on roles, but the mystery surrounding the novelty of picking your own role has, admittedly, dominated my thinking.

On May 20 2011 10:57 Foolishness wrote:

It is? o.O

I'm keeping it updated for my records, and thought someone else might benefit from it as well. Assuming mafia did not pile up on the same number it will come in handy later. I sure as heck am not going to try to pass that post off as a contribution.

Are we really going to try to base a plan around rigging the votes and getting a votecheck? What happened to "let's treat this as a normal game until someone claims"?

No plans for vote rigging or checking. Let's scum hunt.

On May 19 2011 12:05 Foolishness wrote:

I'm bored of listening to lazy plans of how blue roles are going to win us the game while people like Radfield slowly get others (scamp, deconduo) to claim their role in the thread. I almost feel like we should all just mass claim at this point to at least try to coordinate our blues instead of just hoping they do what we want while mafia probe people in the thread to figure out who to kill.

At the end of the day yesterday, I just thought Incognito had a bad case of Pyrrhuloxitis and wasn't really mafia, since to me some of his arguments against Kav were lol. So I didn't change my vote off of him until the end, but I lost track of time because I was watching proleague. Shit happens. Now I'm not sure what to think anymore. At the very least, Incog's attitude does not help the town in the current situation so I will still be voting him unless new information surfaces.

And frankly, I doubt anything new will come up. If the vote checker checks some list (as planned) would you have them claim the results even if they aren't damning? We all know mafia spread out votes as much as possible, so they will probably get a 1/5 people are mafia in one of the lists. Well big freaking deal since we got a 1/5 chance of randomly killing a mafia with a lynch anyways. I fail to see how vote checking is going to get us anywhere tomorrow. This game has lots of good players, mafia aren't going to be stupid and lose because of a vote check.

If nobody else is going to try to do some normal, mafia analysis, we might as well just throw in the towel now. These vote checks which are going to return 1/5 are mafia aren't going to help anything until day 4 when we get a bunch more vote checks to properly nab the mafia. Game will probably be close to over by then.

Ace, you are the one who said we didn't have much to talk about, and already had the max (or close to max) amount of information we could possibly get from day 1 prodding. I don't even expect you to still be reading this post. But if you want to sit around with your gun and let people like Radfield and Incognito mess up the town that's your deal. I got better things to do.

Once the 2 mafia in the list are dead I will gladly encourage you to repost your accusations against me (and I will gladly respond), but for now you're just distracting the town, which is exactly what the mafia want.

On May 20 2011 18:16 Incognito wrote:
My confidence on Chaoser being red is 95%. Not like you'll trust me anymore, but just sayin'

Bus Driver

Twice per game, you get to switch all actions on two players. For example, if the Bus Driver switches A and B, where A and B are players, and A is killed and B is role checked, A will be role checked and B will be killed instead. You may not bus drive yourself. If you are LSB, your action may randomly fail because physics just aren't that reliable. If you are RebirthofLegend, you can bus drive yourself. If you are tnkted, you may repeatedly bug me with questions until you get the answer you want.

On May 25 2011 13:39 Foolishness wrote:
Oh wait you didn't get on the police radio because you forgot to send a night action right?

On May 25 2011 13:41 Foolishness wrote:

So you're telling me Caller doesn't have a role (he picked inventor or chuiu jack)?