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On May 19 2011 13:57 Foolishness wrote: We're probably better off just waiting until tomorrow and seeing if another invention comes up. If the copycat is in the town's hands, he can just make a name that's really pro town (e.g. vote check kit) to let us know. That doesn't mean anything though. They could be mafia, name something the vote check kit and actually it checks votes for blues or specific roles and such. Copycat should straight up claim if he's town since mafia killed Inventor, meaning they didn't get the Thief role so they can't steal it again from the CC. I say CC/Inventor claims, builds something we tell him to, and then we decide whether we want to protect them or not depending on who they are. Mafia is forced into a WIFOM situation and even if they do shoot inventor, it's fine since we shouldn't be relying on the inventor anyway. His invention names can always lead to ambiguous situations and we would end up discussing them too much and lose sight of scum hunting. I'm also interested in Radfield's Non-Vote Rigger Pick. @Mr. Wiggles....so if there's a politician they can just buy your lynch now? | ||
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On May 19 2011 14:36 KillerSOS wrote: Why would you share that you are king? That's a dangerous thing to tell us. Well I can get WHY he's telling us. It's so that there's no surprises and we can control his lynch. If he claims too late then we might get suspicious. But now politician and possibly journalist can control him. He could even be red, kill someone we didn't pick, pretend he got controlled by a politician that might not even exist and then we're stuck in WIFOM and a wild goose chase. For now I think we need to focus on the people we were focusing on yesterday, that being Incognito and Barundar. If it comes to it, we can ask for the double lynch and then deal with it when it comes. | ||
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On May 19 2011 14:42 Ace wrote: Well as King he has to lynch, so this is for sure a double lynch. Damn, just reread it. So kingmaker is basically a compulsive day vigi that can make someone shoot for him. If Journalist can make people say ##lynch: Player then that's a crazy combo. | ||
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##vote: incognito for now. Let's see how Chezinu flip. | ||
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Assuming one of Incog or Chez is green and one is red, who is your other suspect out of the 6? Which players do you have a pro-town read on and which an anti-town read. If Incognito was day vigged today, who would your second suspect be? Probably dreamflower. Haven't read her previous games but her apologetic tone and her only posting to answer questions strikes me as a wee tad scummy. I'm sorry if you guys were hoping to be higher up on the draft order, though I must say I'm kind of glad that I ended up in the middle. I don't mind getting a slightly-less-controversial blue role, hopefully. I do apologize for not having posted a great deal since the game started. It's been a while since my last game of Mafia, and I feel extremely rusty and deeply unwilling to just post for the sake of posting when I really don't know what I'm talking about. I'm sorry that my posts often sound like other people's and frequently focus on roles, but the mystery surrounding the novelty of picking your own role has, admittedly, dominated my thinking. Her Ace write up I need to read over again but my original thoughts on it were that it was a bit silly saying that Ace was acting scummy by going after incognito but not chenizu. Chenizu is chenizu, just like Kenpachi is Kenpachi. They doing their dumb things are null tells and I think it's more important to focus on people who are acting scummy and actually trying to sway public opinion rather than focus on the ribble rabble like chenizu or kenpachi (sadly he is not in this game). I feel at the end of the day it really falls down to incognito v Ace and so far I agree with Ace. Though if Incog flips green then I'm going to be spending a lot more time on Ace. I don't want a Sleeper Mafia to happen where Ace just kept slipping through people's grasps. | ||
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On May 20 2011 10:57 Foolishness wrote: It is? o.O I'm keeping it updated for my records, and thought someone else might benefit from it as well. Assuming mafia did not pile up on the same number it will come in handy later. I sure as heck am not going to try to pass that post off as a contribution. Where's your big posts like in XXXVII where you destroyed my mafia team? I misses it =[. Are we really going to try to base a plan around rigging the votes and getting a votecheck? What happened to "let's treat this as a normal game until someone claims"? No plans for vote rigging or checking. Let's scum hunt. But where is it? You talk about not wanting to speculate about what potential imba combos mafia might have, ask chenizu for his step 3, post 1 liners about nothing in particular, mostly commenting on various things while adding in no input of your own. I think someone mentioned this but this whole post is one big piece of fluff. On May 19 2011 12:05 Foolishness wrote: I'm bored of listening to lazy plans of how blue roles are going to win us the game while people like Radfield slowly get others (scamp, deconduo) to claim their role in the thread. I almost feel like we should all just mass claim at this point to at least try to coordinate our blues instead of just hoping they do what we want while mafia probe people in the thread to figure out who to kill. At the end of the day yesterday, I just thought Incognito had a bad case of Pyrrhuloxitis and wasn't really mafia, since to me some of his arguments against Kav were lol. So I didn't change my vote off of him until the end, but I lost track of time because I was watching proleague. Shit happens. Now I'm not sure what to think anymore. At the very least, Incog's attitude does not help the town in the current situation so I will still be voting him unless new information surfaces. And frankly, I doubt anything new will come up. If the vote checker checks some list (as planned) would you have them claim the results even if they aren't damning? We all know mafia spread out votes as much as possible, so they will probably get a 1/5 people are mafia in one of the lists. Well big freaking deal since we got a 1/5 chance of randomly killing a mafia with a lynch anyways. I fail to see how vote checking is going to get us anywhere tomorrow. This game has lots of good players, mafia aren't going to be stupid and lose because of a vote check. If nobody else is going to try to do some normal, mafia analysis, we might as well just throw in the towel now. These vote checks which are going to return 1/5 are mafia aren't going to help anything until day 4 when we get a bunch more vote checks to properly nab the mafia. Game will probably be close to over by then. Ace, you are the one who said we didn't have much to talk about, and already had the max (or close to max) amount of information we could possibly get from day 1 prodding. I don't even expect you to still be reading this post. But if you want to sit around with your gun and let people like Radfield and Incognito mess up the town that's your deal. I got better things to do. You talk about blue hunting and not being preoccupied with roles but you go right back into talking about how everyone is talking about roles while doing no scumhunting of your own. You bitch at Incognito for "And you've got loads of analysis Mr "let's wait for blues to win us the game"?" while you do none yourself. You've been wishy washy even with your role talk, especially recently on the naming convention of the inventor and on whether inventor should claim or not, going from yes he should to I don't know. All you do when people address your non-scum hunting is to OMGUS them. Thanks to kita for pointing this out. After reading through foolishness' posts I can say he's playing nothing like how he did in XXXVII and he's been pretty anti-town. ##vote Foolishness | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218973¤tpage=27#522 This? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218973¤tpage=27#526 This? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218973¤tpage=40#783 This? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218973¤tpage=47#923 This? How about you prove your own usefulness. A lot of the charges you level at Incognito you yourself are guilty of. How are you being useful? You said dec was obv green and that you wanted to help lynch a more obvious mafia but you don't try at all to push for incognito's lynch. You make offhand remarks and you show support for his lynch but you never make a real argument for it even though you're one of the main people pushing for it. Where's the Foolishness from XXXVII? You're a good townie but a horrible mafia. Show me how good you can be or it's light out yo. | ||
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Once the 2 mafia in the list are dead I will gladly encourage you to repost your accusations against me (and I will gladly respond), but for now you're just distracting the town, which is exactly what the mafia want. If the list is reliable then I can agree to this. Right now I don't think it's reliable enough for me to trust it yet. I'm still going to pressure you to post like you did in XXXVII and if you don't I'll push for your lynch. Damn...i have a few more thoughts but i went to brush my teeth. I'll post again when I remember them. | ||
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On May 20 2011 18:16 Incognito wrote: My confidence on Chaoser being red is 95%. Not like you'll trust me anymore, but just sayin' Wait so why am I mafia again? Because I was inactive? You know, coag threw out numbers on why he thought I was mafia in toy factory mafia and never gave real reasons either. I ended up flipping green. Both you and bum have been doing that as well this game; I haven't seen a single analysis post on me from anyone. I was busy at the start of the game and tried to pressure GM like I did to Irish in XXXIX. He overreacted a bit and then explained himself well so I backed off. Now that I've caught up a decent amount I decide to write a big post on foolishness to pressure him because yes his posting IS weird and I get hit with the "you are scum" bat? Yeah the post was sudden but that's only cause I've finally read enough to have an informed opinion on what I'm writing about. How is that scummy? Until someone writes up a real piece of analysis against me I'm going to be sending my time looking at others. | ||
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##vote Incognito Foolishness can wait if it means incognito will slip by again | ||
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Bus Driver Twice per game, you get to switch all actions on two players. For example, if the Bus Driver switches A and B, where A and B are players, and A is killed and B is role checked, A will be role checked and B will be killed instead. You may not bus drive yourself. If you are LSB, your action may randomly fail because physics just aren't that reliable. If you are RebirthofLegend, you can bus drive yourself. If you are tnkted, you may repeatedly bug me with questions until you get the answer you want. Ah ok, got it. So bus drivers can work in the day time too. Damnit. So can we PLEASE LYNCH INCOG TOMORROW??? He saw an excuse to fire off a nuke knowing that it would get bussed to their preferred target. | ||
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##vote tnkted | ||
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INCOGNITO (5): Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, Barundar Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Barundar, one of them is mafia. I'm betting on it being Foolishness from previous posts. I haven't read anything since I last posted and probably won't have time till late tomorrow night due to previously stated personal reasons. | ||
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lol, well i figure it two ways. Either town lynches me or mafia wastes a shot on me. It's a waste since people already think i'm mafia. So they're just helping town clear the field and also confirming someone (bum) who I highly doubt was covered. So It'd be better if you guys let mafia just kill me. If they don't I have another night to check someone and whenever town does decide to lynch me, I will dump all of my info that I've checked. | ||
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