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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#1381
lol there's multiple DTs in this game/we don't know how many there are elmizzt
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 09 2011 05:39 GMT
#1382
Anyway discussion about this at this point adds nothing. We should all assume he's telling the truth and see how things go from there. If by some miracle GGQ and Eternal flip green then we can discuss about your wild theory.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 09 2011 05:43 GMT
#1383
Lawl. Excellent.

Now we have a town lynch, with the voting patterns to show for it. It was a close one up to just a few hours before the end of the voting period = plenty of information.

We just need to look at the people:

1. stayed with someone else to the end
2. last-minute switched from another enemy to amber

4 mafia left - with good DT checks and/or vigi kills, we might win this next day.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 09 2011 06:52 GMT
#1384
On May 09 2011 14:29 chaoser wrote:
lol there's multiple DTs in this game/we don't know how many there are elmizzt

You're right, I forgot. Still, for the other reasons stated, we love you
d=(^_^)z
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 09 2011 07:45 GMT
#1385
Good one chaoser, with 2 scum down from the modkill and successfull lynch, we´re finally getting somewhere. Although I´m angry at Lyter and beneather, if you have such an important role, you don´t screw town over by forgetting to post once for three days. Town is down 3 killroles, two of them because the players lurked too hard. At least the modkill took a scum too.

. . . . . Town:Scum
Day 1 . - 24:6
Night 1 - 20:6
Day 2 . - 17:4
Night 2 - 15:4 - projected
:3
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4384 Posts
May 09 2011 08:31 GMT
#1386
Can Mafia roleblock their own members? Does it affect their KP if they do?

As far as I can tell only GGQ claimed that he was roleblocked last night.
Sucker for nostalgia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 09 2011 08:53 GMT
#1387
Mafia killpower isn´t linked to their roles, but their number, so I´d say no, but waiting for host to answer.
:3
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4384 Posts
May 09 2011 09:04 GMT
#1388
On May 09 2011 17:53 Forumite wrote:
Mafia killpower isn´t linked to their roles, but their number, so I´d say no, but waiting for host to answer.

I ask this because last game I was mafia and I asked BrownBear if we could direct hits at our own players. He told me that we could, but if we roleblocked one of our own members we would lose a KP because a mafia nightkill was considered a night action.

If mafia can't roleblock their own players, then it means either that GGQ is lying about his roleblock claim, is mafia and they used it on someone they killed (likely KillerSOS) or that he's telling the truth and he's town.

We used the roleblocking last game as a large part of our strategy to discredit people, but slightly differently as we had 2 roleblockers. If GGQ is scum it is possible he faked his roleblock claim.

Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4384 Posts
May 09 2011 09:05 GMT
#1389
EBWOP: Conversely, if roleblocking one of their own players costs a KP, then GGQ is cleared as telling the truth because 3 people died night 1.
Sucker for nostalgia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 09 2011 09:28 GMT
#1390
On May 09 2011 18:05 DropBear wrote:
EBWOP: Conversely, if roleblocking one of their own players costs a KP, then GGQ is cleared as telling the truth because 3 people died night 1.

Wether or not roleblocking costs a KP doesn´t matter. GGQ can still be Mafia if GGQ lied about being roleblocked.

This is WIFOM, and doesn´t give anything.
:3
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
May 09 2011 09:28 GMT
#1391
On May 09 2011 17:31 DropBear wrote:
Can Mafia roleblock their own members? Does it affect their KP if they do?

As far as I can tell only GGQ claimed that he was roleblocked last night.


If a roleblocker were to use their ability on a mafia member, the mafia would "lose" that member for that night. If that would be the tipping point for KP, the mafia would lose a KP that night.

They can just as easily not use the roleblocker's ability at all, though.
whole lies with a half smile
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4384 Posts
May 09 2011 09:40 GMT
#1392
On May 09 2011 18:28 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 17:31 DropBear wrote:
Can Mafia roleblock their own members? Does it affect their KP if they do?

As far as I can tell only GGQ claimed that he was roleblocked last night.


If a roleblocker were to use their ability on a mafia member, the mafia would "lose" that member for that night. If that would be the tipping point for KP, the mafia would lose a KP that night.

They can just as easily not use the roleblocker's ability at all, though.

I didn't even think of them not using it

So the situation is, either GGQ is Mafia and lied about his roleblock, or he is clean and was telling the truth. I'm back to where I was before :/
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4384 Posts
May 09 2011 09:44 GMT
#1393
Actually losing a member night 1 would not have been a tipping point, so I've proved even less than I originally thought. It is still conceivable that they roleblocked him and he is telling the truth AND he's mafia.

This is getting me anywhere so I'm going to drop it.
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4384 Posts
May 09 2011 09:45 GMT
#1394
Actually Node, one more question. Can the roleblocker block themselves or can they only block other mafia goons and the godfather?
Sucker for nostalgia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 09 2011 09:52 GMT
#1395
On May 09 2011 18:45 DropBear wrote:
Actually Node, one more question. Can the roleblocker block themselves or can they only block other mafia goons and the godfather?

Again, no point. Roleblocking themselves and withholding the roleblock is the same thing. Roleblockers don´t have to use their ability every night.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 09 2011 09:55 GMT
#1396
What happened to kevconsim? He replaced Rising_Phoenix but didn´t vote this day either. Shouldn´t he be modkilled too?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 09 2011 09:56 GMT
#1397
On May 09 2011 18:55 Forumite wrote:
What happened to kevconsim? He replaced Rising_Phoenix but didn´t vote this day either. Shouldn´t he be modkilled too?

Nevermind, he was replaced by Beneather who got himself modkilled.
*facepalm*
:3
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4384 Posts
May 09 2011 09:57 GMT
#1398
On May 09 2011 18:52 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 18:45 DropBear wrote:
Actually Node, one more question. Can the roleblocker block themselves or can they only block other mafia goons and the godfather?

Again, no point. Roleblocking themselves and withholding the roleblock is the same thing. Roleblockers don´t have to use their ability every night.

Yeah good point, ok I'll drop this.
Sucker for nostalgia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 09 2011 10:01 GMT
#1399
On May 09 2011 18:56 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 18:55 Forumite wrote:
What happened to kevconsim? He replaced Rising_Phoenix but didn´t vote this day either. Shouldn´t he be modkilled too?

Nevermind, he was replaced by Beneather who got himself modkilled.
*facepalm*

Actually, it´s still relevant.

The player list says Beneather was modkilled as Day vigi #30, but also took over #23 after Rising_Phoenix and kevconsim. What happened to #23? is it modkilled too?
:3
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
May 09 2011 10:25 GMT
#1400
On May 09 2011 18:45 DropBear wrote:
Actually Node, one more question. Can the roleblocker block themselves or can they only block other mafia goons and the godfather?


Uhhhhh.... I haven't considered the resulting tear in the space/time continuum that would come from a roleblocker blocking themselves. Let's just say that it's impossible. But again, I can't think of a reason someone would want to do that when they could much more easily simply not use the ability at all.


On May 09 2011 19:01 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 18:56 Forumite wrote:
On May 09 2011 18:55 Forumite wrote:
What happened to kevconsim? He replaced Rising_Phoenix but didn´t vote this day either. Shouldn´t he be modkilled too?

Nevermind, he was replaced by Beneather who got himself modkilled.
*facepalm*

Actually, it´s still relevant.

The player list says Beneather was modkilled as Day vigi #30, but also took over #23 after Rising_Phoenix and kevconsim. What happened to #23? is it modkilled too?


Kevconsim was not modkilled because he requested a replacement with advance notice and had a damn good reason for not being around. For some reason I confused Beneather with Impervious and mixed them up on the player list. For the record, Impervious replaced kevconsim who replaced Rising_Phoenix.
whole lies with a half smile
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