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On April 28 2011 06:45 Orange2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 06:31 yellow1 wrote:
I think you mean a replacement, not a mod kill, right? Its indifferent, as long as we get rid of the issue one way or another. So it seems our lynch right now is split between red and pink, I'm going to stick with pink because the lack of posting bothers me immensely.
You mean it's irrelevant, but it's not. Mod kills are almost always town, meaning lylo comes faster.
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day will end at 05:00 GMT (+00:00)
Don't think this worked. Trying to use the time command, but I get 1am for me when the day ends at 12:00am EST. It also tells me my timezone is EDT, but it's EST. Maybe it will work for some of you.
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Still, I don't think a pure inactive is the best course. If pink or terran is mafia, I don't draw any pleasure lynching them. I'd rather aim for the active mafia if possible. I'm going to put my vote on red.
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On April 28 2011 06:56 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
day will end at 05:00 GMT (+00:00)
Don't think this worked. Trying to use the time command, but I get 1am for me when the day ends at 12:00am EST. It also tells me my timezone is EDT, but it's EST. Maybe it will work for some of you.
Works for me.
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On April 28 2011 06:54 yellow1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 06:45 Orange2 wrote:On April 28 2011 06:31 yellow1 wrote:
I think you mean a replacement, not a mod kill, right? Its indifferent, as long as we get rid of the issue one way or another. So it seems our lynch right now is split between red and pink, I'm going to stick with pink because the lack of posting bothers me immensely. You mean it's irrelevant, but it's not. Mod kills are almost always town, meaning lylo comes faster.
Not in this case though. We have 12 players, as a rule of thumb and even numbers of players gets to lylo as quickly as an even number -1 players do.
With 12 players
12-1 lynch = 11 at night 1 start
11-2 night kills = 9 at day 2 start
9-1 lynch = 8 at night 2 start
8-2 night kills = 6 at day 3 start = lylo with two mafia
With 1 modkill
12-1 lynch - 1 modkill = 10 at night 1 start
10-2 night kills = 8 at day 2 start
8-1 lynch = 7 at night 2 start
7-2 night kills = 5 at day 3 start = lylo with two mafia
so really if it came down to it we could afford a modkill, either way its a moot point RoL said we aren't getting any.
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On April 28 2011 03:59 Orange2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 01:14 Blue1 wrote:
Also, your strategy of voting for people one at a time until they post is ridiculous if you change your vote as soon as they post any random garbage. This is no pressure at all.
I think you aren't fully seeing my startegy, yes I do let off as soon as they post something, this is because later I can hold them to "you clearly saw the thread, you even posted _______ yet you failed to contribute" when building an argument, or if they actually posted well then I can commend them for it, let them post a one line spam of garbage to get my vote off them, I promise it will come back to haunt them, sooner rather than later. That said, do you mind summarizing your argument against red? I see it as a "he is lurking" argument, which if is the case I am fine with, pressuring and even killing lurkers is fine by me. As I interpreted it you also want to lynch him because of the information it would reveal about my relationship with him? You realize that lynching for information is usually bad play right? Especially in a no flip game. If you are gunning for him for his inactivity/lurk then I can support that. also Pink where the hell are you?
I'm voting for red because I think he is scum. He has posted several times and has yet to make any contribution. His answer about him being lurking, then saying he was busy did not convince me. After your post, I began seing things from a different angle, but yellow's post made me question that yet again. I'm still torn between him and protoss, because he has not been active as soon as the pressure went off of him.
As for seing your reaction, I'm interested in the reactions of all other players, not just yours.
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I understand why people are leaning towards Red now as his posting history as been sporadic at best.
However, this early in the game I would prefer an active player over an inactive player. What's the point of keeping someone around if they're not going to contribute/play? Therefore,
##Unvote
##Vote: Pink2
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Also your first example is mylo and the second is lylo. You are assuming too much either way, as town has to have some power roles for this setup to be even close to balanced.
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The point is winning the game. You have no info on pink2 so your chance of being right is 2/11.
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I understand where you're coming from, but for me, as a noob, the point is playing the game. Winning will be a bonus. That is not to say I do not want to help the town win, of course. I'm just not convinced yet that Red is scum, and my vote has to go somewhere.
My vote is not set in stone, I will be waiting to see if/how Red defends himself.
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On April 28 2011 07:31 Blue1 wrote:
Also your first example is mylo and the second is lylo. You are assuming too much either way, as town has to have some power roles for this setup to be even close to balanced.
I dont really see the point in distinguishing too much between mylo and lylo in either case a misvote loses us the game. As to assumptions, I'd rather act as if we didn't have any power roles and take anything they give us as a boon, rather than assuming we have them/they are actually going to achieve anything. Either way, I dont think there's any major point in arguing this, as RoL has said no one is being modkilled.
Still though activity levels are worrying.
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On April 28 2011 07:35 Protoss1 wrote:
I understand where you're coming from, but for me, as a noob, the point is playing the game. Winning will be a bonus. That is not to say I do not want to help the town win, of course. I'm just not convinced yet that Red is scum, and my vote has to go somewhere.
My vote is not set in stone, I will be waiting to see if/how Red defends himself.
Red isn't going to defend himself if he isn't preasured, it seems like pink isn't around anyway, and I want to see if red shows up and tries to defend himself, lets put on some real heat.
##Unvote
##Vote: Red
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Protoss we are letting you live in the off chance you have some kind of night super powers. If you derail this lynch by voting someone who already has a vote for no apparent reason, your ass is ours on day2. If your objective is to survive I sugest you start being useful to the town.
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I'm confused.
On April 27 2011 00:46 Blue1 wrote:
Obvious bandwagoner is obvious.
Will you make up your mind? Earlier you were ready to vote me out because of the above. I could post against Red and keep my head down but at this point Red seems like an easy vote and I would like to hear from Pink while waiting for Red to respond. I am not trying to derail anything.
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On April 28 2011 07:42 Blue1 wrote:
Protoss we are letting you live in the off chance you have some kind of night super powers. If you derail this lynch by voting someone who already has a vote for no apparent reason, your ass is ours on day2. If your objective is to survive I sugest you start being useful to the town.
Who is this "we" you speak of? Also, what "derailing"? 
having two separate people up for lynch is good for us it means we'll have voting lists to analyze, I'd be a lot more suspicious if we all agreed on who to lynch, that would probably indicate that the mafia has no interest in defending them, hence they probably aren't scum, all these people eagerly jumping on pink over red are what made me consider his case more seriously.
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Protoss, and how is pink not an easy vote? I'm not telling you to vote for red. I'm telling you to vote for who you think is scum.
Orange, while I agree with you, I don't think you see the point here.
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This will be my 1 post in response to the votes on me as i think my time would be better spent looking for scum and pushing my prior suspicions. Im not scum. kill me if you must but move forward with the knowledge that you have lynched a townie.
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On April 28 2011 08:04 red2 wrote:
This will be my 1 post in response to the votes on me as i think my time would be better spent looking for scum and pushing my prior suspicions. Im not scum. kill me if you must but move forward with the knowledge that you have lynched a townie.
Poor defense. propose an alternate lynch then, and back it up please. Who do you think is scum and needs nice little shove into the incinerator?
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I am not confident enough yet to know who are scum, that's the problem. So if I'm forced to vote I'd rather it be someome who isn't playing until I hear enough from someone to feel, "Ok, they have definitely given themselves away." I haven't felt that yet.
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Er, while I was writing the above, Red posted. Now I'm not as sure...
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