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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 12 2011 03:39 GMT
#24
Thanks for the PM, GMarshal

/in

My first game, looking forward to it!
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 12 2011 18:32 GMT
#57
On April 12 2011 18:22 Forumite wrote:
Why is there so much talk in here that is unrelated to this particular game?

probably because the game hasn't started yet, and there's not much else to talk about
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 15 2011 02:16 GMT
#100
GL HF all <3

On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.


That sounds pretty reasonable to me. Yall better start postin!
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 15 2011 03:52 GMT
#110
On April 15 2011 12:49 Zorkmid wrote:
I for one am going to vote that we lynch the quiet most innocent seeming player I might even do a character count!

hmmm...how long until we can start eye-ing some of the inactive players and leaning on em a little?
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 15 2011 17:34 GMT
#141
On April 15 2011 23:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 20:52 sandroba wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:27 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

I concur with this, there sure isn't any harm in losing inactive townies OR scum!

GLHF!

There is a lot of harm in losing any kind of townies.


I'm suspicious that this means that sandroba is scum, and knows that that his scum buddy is going to be inactive.

This points to Forumrite.
Show nested quote +
Unfortunately I´m going to post slowly during the first day-phace, lots of things happening this weekend, but it should pick up next week.


It doesn't matter that he posted this before he was even PM'ed.....if my assumption about sandroba holds true, than he has already revealed he AND Forumrite.

How do you plead?

This seemed retarded at first, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense....

It seems too convenient that forumite is afk at the start and that sandroba would make that statement.

Plus, my gut tells me that the first person who breaks and makes an outright accusation is suspicious, and that was Sandroba as well.
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 16 2011 18:37 GMT
#219
OK. Here are my thoughts for scum:

I think Sandroba has some qualities that are pretty suspicious.

In his posting, here are the aspects I find to be suspicious:

First, he keeps referencing material that he has read outside of the game:

That's called OMGUS from what I've read.


Zorkmid chainsaw defense of scholeosis seems suspicous aswell, but if it is indeed a chainsaw defense then pressuring scholeosis should be able to reveal them both.


To me, this screams someone who read a mafia wiki page or something and is leaning on these terms and outside information as a source of authority. He can sound much more confident and harder to attack by dropping these even without a leg to stand on.



Second, he keeps talking from the point of view of a mafia, which I feel is a slip as well:

is the situation too confortable that the scum can sit back and realx?


this debate of me zorkmid and forumite throwing suspicion against each other is getting too confortable for the mafia

This one especially, in response to zorkmid's accusation:
Also attacking the one doing analisys on you is not good town play

I feel like this is a huge slip, as he's speaking as though he knows that the person he is responding to is town.


Couple other things that are suspicious, his argument rebuttles are always just fluff and dismissal:

I'm obviously town.


And to say it doesn't matter if he posted that before or after he got PM'ed is just LOL


make a case of someone you think is scum (a decent one, not the nonsencical one you've posted)


This makes it easy to shut down opinions quickly and that attitude makes it extremely hard to respond. Basically I feel like sandroba has been screaming for more analysis and more posts, but whenever anyone posts arguments, he tries to shut them down quickly or dismiss them as a joke.



However, Senj having seemingly disappeared makes me a little leery as well...I'm leaning more towards voting Senj at the moment.



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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 16 2011 19:21 GMT
#221
On April 17 2011 04:10 VarpuliS wrote:
Elmizzt: Make sure you vote before the deadline. The last thing we need is a modkill.

I will be sure to, thanks
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 16 2011 23:24 GMT
#223
I was hoping people would want to discuss a bit more, but it's getting close to that time!

## Vote : Senj
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 17 2011 02:23 GMT
#234
On April 17 2011 11:17 Vain wrote:
I just want to take this moment and mourn for our departed senj, who turned out to be a town. This death will have an huge impact on us and the game. The rest of this post i will dedicate to our beloved senj. Think of all the moments he was with us and the time we spent together. I still remember the first time i saw him.
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On April 15 2011 11:18 Senj wrote:
GL HF broskis. Not sure I agree Eternalmisfit, seeing as we're all relatively new to the mafia game.

He was never much of a talker, but he always told me he tried so hard to change..

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On April 15 2011 12:41 Senj wrote:
Yeah, basically. I guess that's kind of the idea of keeping the thread active though, more posts mean more chances to slip up and divulge too much information.

Somewhat unrelated, but I just broke a 9 game lose streak. :D huuuuuge relief there.


Sadly, he fell back in his old behaviour and he spoke to the public only one more time


Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:54 Senj wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:52 elmizzt wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:49 Zorkmid wrote:
I for one am going to vote that we lynch the quiet most innocent seeming player I might even do a character count!

hmmm...how long until we can start eye-ing some of the inactive players and leaning on em a little?


I'm already taking note that we have yet to see Forumite, Vain and Varpulis, however; I feel it's a little early yet. By the halfway mark on the first day I'll be suspicious if we haven't heard from them yet.


After that it was only a matter of time until dark clouds rose above his head. Maybe he wanted to talk but couldn't find a way to express himself. Maybe he searched for words but could never find them. Maybe something else, but we will never know now because our beloved senj is dead

Hahahahaha a fitting tribute. R.I.P.
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 17 2011 21:16 GMT
#277
On April 18 2011 03:54 VarpuliS wrote:
ah. I see the misunderstanding here. What I meant to say was "If we do have any blues, we've only got one of each. This was to make it very clear that we must not waste any abilities given to us. If you'd like to lynch me, lynch me. I invite you. It will prove my alignment and deny suspicion in my analyses.

Let me repeat that: If you think i'm scum, go ahead and lynch me.

>.<

wow, what kind of attitude is this...
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 17 2011 21:22 GMT
#280
On April 18 2011 06:18 VarpuliS wrote:
I'd like to make something clear: Lynching me is not a good idea. Lynching me is a waste of a lynch. I want to live, and see this one through till the end. If people are dead set on lynching me however, I recognize that there isn't much that I can do to stop them.

I don't want people to want to lynch me. I show that by being active, helpful, and pro-town.

If helping the town makes me scum, then what makes me town?

Wow, so your bluff failed, now you're backpedaling so fast, you're going backwards in time.

FOS: VarpuliS
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#391
On April 19 2011 06:16 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 05:56 Forumite wrote:
If Vote flips green or blue then I will take a very close look on Sandroba, but I can´t know now what will happen during Lynch 2, it depends on what slip-ups happen until then.


Stupidity is not a scumtell and i quote

"Bad logic- Unless the bad logic is intentional. Not everyone is as smart as someone who reads LSB’s Newbie guide."


On April 18 2011 04:11 Vain wrote:

VarpuliS, did you read the guides that were reccomended?


Useless question. You probably read the guide and you know the way you have been posting is not good town play.

If Sandroba would have read the guide and actually has some recollection memory he should exactly know why i did ask this question which is still unanswered.

Nice bandwagon btw VarpuliS


People need to stop quoting guides and outside sources as ultimate authorities. They're good for sparking ideas, but they can't apply to every situation. Make your own arguments instead.

Here are my suspicious posts:
Vain:
On April 18 2011 21:32 Vain wrote:
I don't know how you percieved this but i had consistently scholeosis as maffia so please don't imply i just follow the crowd. I was the even only one that ended up voting for her. Why are you asking me if i am doctor or mafia? if i tell you im mafia i would be dead. If i tell you i am a doctor i would be dead AND the town loses a medic. So I am not going to answer your two sided question you figure it out yourself;)

It almost seems as though you maintained your vote on scholeosis even after it was 100% clear that she would not possibly be lynched in order to have some kind of defense for later use. It's almost too calculated that you had that defense all whipped up and ready for use at the first moment's notice.

Forumite:
On April 18 2011 22:12 Forumite wrote:
I am one of the probable Townies, and I hinted that I had something really good that I was waiting to drop, which is probably why they aimed for me.

I would like you to note that I didn´t say I was saved at first. Partly because I didn´t see the PM until this morning, but also because I wanted to lure out the Mafia, and because I knew people would suspect me if I say I was saved. Saying I´m saved doesn´t help much, except if I get someone to make a mistake, like Vain did.

I think it's pretty clear that you are lying your ass off here. You posted 9 and 15 minutes after the PM's went out. I find it extremely hard to believe that you "didn't see the PM" during this time, especially considering that there were 3 posts in between your posts, and yours popped up at the front of a new page. These circumstances would have required at the bare minimum a couple f5's to be caught up. Not to mention that PM's are emailed to you assuming you havn't turned that function off. It doesn't add up.

So basically:

FOS: Vain
FOS: Forumite
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 18 2011 23:07 GMT
#396
On April 19 2011 08:02 Eternalmisfit wrote:
EBWOP:
And Elmizzt posted while I was writing my post. And goes after Vain which breaks his potential affiliation with Vain.

@Elmizzt
As much as Forumite's delayed claim makes it suspicious; since no one else has claimed being saved and mafia didn't get a kill last night; I can't find a scenario (in which mafia isn't totally indept or is just too awesome) where he is scum.

Well, I think you have to consider that a mafia was saved. It that's the case, then Vain is mafia, and his partner was saved. They were trying to throw us off by shifting the save to Vain, not sure why they would do that, but it's a possible scenario.
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 18 2011 23:16 GMT
#401
On April 19 2011 08:10 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 08:07 elmizzt wrote:
On April 19 2011 08:02 Eternalmisfit wrote:
EBWOP:
And Elmizzt posted while I was writing my post. And goes after Vain which breaks his potential affiliation with Vain.

@Elmizzt
As much as Forumite's delayed claim makes it suspicious; since no one else has claimed being saved and mafia didn't get a kill last night; I can't find a scenario (in which mafia isn't totally indept or is just too awesome) where he is scum.

Well, I think you have to consider that a mafia was saved. It that's the case, then Vain is mafia, and his partner was saved. They were trying to throw us off by shifting the save to Vain, not sure why they would do that, but it's a possible scenario.


The mafia cannot be saved as in that case we would have a town kill. In the absence of a town kill, I can safely say that a townie was saved and there is a medic.

You're right, I should think more before posting lol.
d=(^_^)z
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 18 2011 23:19 GMT
#402
On April 19 2011 08:08 VarpuliS wrote:
Vain, for all of the guides you claim to read, you don't seem to know what a bandwagon is. A bandwagon would be me seeing three other people voting for you, and do the same without giving a reason. A bandwagon is not reading an analysis, debating it with others, being convinced, and then voting for you. Weak defense.

Also, nobody knows what you're talking about when you reference the guides. If you want to ask a question, just ask it, don't be vague.

To all the people calling Forumite a liar: Then what did happen? Mafia decided not to hit anybody? why the hell would they do that? Elmizzt, how did you know when the PM's went out? Are you claiming blue?

No, I'm not claiming blue with that post. But I think it's safe to say that the PM's would go out as close to humanly possible as the post announcing the new day/night, would it not?
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 01:40 GMT
#449
Been waiting to see if scholeosis has anything to say, but at this point I think she is too busy studying for her finals or something lol.

I'm going to go with my strongest feeling based on my previous post.

##Vote: Forumite
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 01:48 GMT
#451
On April 20 2011 10:46 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 10:40 elmizzt wrote:
Been waiting to see if scholeosis has anything to say, but at this point I think she is too busy studying for her finals or something lol.

I'm going to go with my strongest feeling based on my previous post.

##Vote: Forumite


Your previous post was
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On April 19 2011 08:19 elmizzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 08:08 VarpuliS wrote:
Vain, for all of the guides you claim to read, you don't seem to know what a bandwagon is. A bandwagon would be me seeing three other people voting for you, and do the same without giving a reason. A bandwagon is not reading an analysis, debating it with others, being convinced, and then voting for you. Weak defense.

Also, nobody knows what you're talking about when you reference the guides. If you want to ask a question, just ask it, don't be vague.

To all the people calling Forumite a liar: Then what did happen? Mafia decided not to hit anybody? why the hell would they do that? Elmizzt, how did you know when the PM's went out? Are you claiming blue?

No, I'm not claiming blue with that post. But I think it's safe to say that the PM's would go out as close to humanly possible as the post announcing the new day/night, would it not?



Lol

Previous post meaning post that came before this, not literally the one right before. I didn't bother being so specific, as I'm pretty sure nobody bothered to read it. I'll link you here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211489&currentpage=20#391
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 02:04 GMT
#460
bring it on, sandy <3
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 02:13 GMT
#466
GG all. wp <3
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 02:14 GMT
#469
Big thanks to chaoser and gmarshal for hosties

apologies to townies for being bad at scum
d=(^_^)z
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 02:16 GMT
#474
i wonder what happened to scholeosis, hope exams are going ok lol ><
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 02:18 GMT
#479
I didn't think mafia would be so hard for me. I had so many posts typed out and I ended up not posting because I reread them and felt they were too obvious. Then more people would post, and I would do the same, and ended up not posting anything for too long, and then it was even harder to start posting again after being under suspicion for not posting for so long lol.
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 20 2011 03:03 GMT
#507
On April 20 2011 12:01 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 11:52 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 20 2011 11:18 Coagulation wrote:
another batch of newbies ready for the big leagues?


I'm in as a replacement for XVIII but that game seems mostly over.

Really looking forward to sleeper cell.


dude you are in XVIII now you replaced a guy lol... you should probably head over there.

rofl!
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 23 2011 21:44 GMT
#528
On April 24 2011 03:38 Senj wrote:
Fuuuuuuu. I went out of town to party with a friend and forgot to vote. -_-

rofl. i figured it was something like that

looking forward to gm's analysis
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