EPTOn April 18 2011 20:22 sandroba wrote:
That's clearly not claiming to be saved by medic.
That's clearly not claiming to be saved by medic.
i think it clearly is, but let's ask forumite again shall we?
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Vain
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i think it clearly is, but let's ask forumite again shall we? | ||
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Medic You have the power to save lives. Once per night you can watch a player. If your target is attacked, you will block one hit aimed at them. If you make a successful save, both you and your target will be notified of the save. You cannot save yourself. Does this means the person saved is informed of who saved him, or only that he was saved? | ||
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On April 18 2011 20:33 sandroba wrote: Does this means the person saved is informed of who saved him, or only that he was saved? Only that he was saved. Due to all the time spent studying in medical school medics have forgotten how to be social, thus they are extremely shy and never reveal themselves when saving someone | ||
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On April 18 2011 20:33 sandroba wrote: Medic You have the power to save lives. Once per night you can watch a player. If your target is attacked, you will block one hit aimed at them. If you make a successful save, both you and your target will be notified of the save. You cannot save yourself. Does this means the person saved is informed of who saved him, or only that he was saved? You only get informed that you were saved, not by whom. Yes, I was saved by the Doctor, Mafia wanted me dead, and I got a PM saying I was saved. It didn´t include info on who saved me, I wanted to drag it out, see what people were saying, if someone makes a mistake. | ||
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On April 18 2011 20:23 Zorkmid wrote: This post seems very strange to me...at this point there isn't really anyone marked for lynching, and I'm more suspicious that someone acting protective towards lynch targets are scummy rather than townie. What I want is Elmizzt and Vain to actually post their own thoughts, not just an "I agree" when someone else brings up evidence. I don´t agree that being protective is scummy, sure Mafia wants to protect Mafia, if possible, but there are so few Mafia, and there are a lot of instances where people point out that something is not scummy behavior. I see protecting someone as wanting a thought through lynch rather than lynching whoever makes the worst case for himself. | ||
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On April 18 2011 20:42 sandroba wrote: Well here comes my analysis of vain, wait for it! With the rope and noose ready  | ||
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On April 18 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote: What I want is Elmizzt and Vain to actually post their own thoughts, not just an "I agree" when someone else brings up evidence. I don´t agree that being protective is scummy, sure Mafia wants to protect Mafia, if possible, but there are so few Mafia, and there are a lot of instances where people point out that something is not scummy behavior. I see protecting someone as wanting a thought through lynch rather than lynching whoever makes the worst case for himself. It is scummy. I wouldn't defend any of the players at the moment as the ones that I think are town can do it themselves (and I would want them to) and I'm not sure about the rest. | ||
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What I wanted with the post is for Elmizzt and Vain to actually post their own accusations, if they only hop on the wagon, then they are not helping us. I want them to start posting more, because I get a strong scum-wibe from both of them. | ||
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On April 18 2011 21:03 Forumite wrote: Which part is scummy? What I wanted with the post is for Elmizzt and Vain to actually post their own accusations, if they only hop on the wagon, then they are not helping us. I want them to start posting more, because I get a strong scum-wibe from both of them. You're getting a strong scum vibe because they're band wagoning and not making their own analyses? Explain yourself man! | ||
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On April 18 2011 21:03 Forumite wrote: Which part is scummy? The part where you're defending people that *I* don't know to be town. | ||
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On April 18 2011 21:09 Zorkmid wrote: You're getting a strong scum vibe because they're band wagoning and not making their own analyses? Explain yourself man! Elmizzt and Vain are extremely slow posters, but when they do post it´s to immediately jump on whoever is the current target for the lynch. Elmizzt even jumped on my VarpuliS-accusations, that really were quite weak after all. When I defend someone, because I do sometimes, and different people at that, it´s because I feel the evidence against them is weak, and in these two peoples cases, it´s always weak. | ||
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On April 18 2011 21:19 Forumite wrote: Elmizzt and Vain are extremely slow posters, but when they do post it´s to immediately jump on whoever is the current target for the lynch. Elmizzt even jumped on my VarpuliS-accusations, that really were quite weak after all. When I defend someone, because I do sometimes, and different people at that, it´s because I feel the evidence against them is weak, and in these two peoples cases, it´s always weak. I don't know how you percieved this but i had consistently scholeosis as maffia so please don't imply i just follow the crowd. I was the even only one that ended up voting for her. Why are you asking me if i am doctor or mafia? if i tell you im mafia i would be dead. If i tell you i am a doctor i would be dead AND the town loses a medic. So I am not going to answer your two sided question you figure it out yourself;) | ||
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On April 15 2011 19:41 Vain wrote: Yup, just got out of bed. its 12:40 now here  ehm, can't we like check if these other person's are posting elsewhere so they are knowingly avoiding posting here? On April 15 2011 19:43 Vain wrote: Just to add. if that would be the case they sure would have some explaining to do This is indeed too early to tell anything, but he posts a question then an obvious observation. Note that he has 550 posts and in his question he implies he still doesn't know how to use the search function. On April 16 2011 06:38 Vain wrote: Well i'll come out of the shadows then and will mention there is not very much too say jet. You can only argue that some are more active then others but i don't think any obvious or major slips were made. Sure, Zorkmid has like 50% of the posts but doesn't really really fit the picture of scum(jet?). I think Shcoleosis has displayed an odd behaviour by at first saying I'm still learning :/ and switching from opinion that fast but an explanation for this could be that (s)he really isn't really into this game jet and is just afraid of being hanged the first day. Still until (s)he can give an explenation, my vote is still on him/her. And btw please tell if your a girl or not. i am sick of typing 2 genders all the time. ifnot i assume your sexless, lol This post is made 11 hours after. Note that he admits to be lurking in the bolded part. Then he procedes to say absolutely nothing. He says that could be that, nut that could be the other thing aswell. Extremely wishy washy. On April 16 2011 06:39 Vain wrote: Four if you count this one;) Spam post. On April 16 2011 08:55 Vain wrote: Well, She didn't change my opinion on her so: ##Vote: Scholeosis Bandwagons on scholeosis. On April 17 2011 00:26 Vain wrote: Hmm, the reason i voted for shcoleosis is that in my opinion her behaviour was very scummy like( switching sides, saying things like first time playing guys). Witch was pointed out earlyer by the other players before me. She did not post again untill after i voted for her. I may note that the posts after that were not so much scum behaviour, but i am still not really convinced we have a better alternative. Although zorkmid could be suspected due to throwing accusations out like there is no tomorrow, which could be his strategy but is drawing attention to him and would be very risky if he were to be scum. Nevertheless zorkmid would be my number two but only to him being profoundly accusing. I haven't really looked in the accusations of the others too much but i'll try to post an analysis of them later on. Again, very wishy washy, doesn't want to point fingers at nobody. Claims not to be following the thread and promises future analysis that we never got to see. Where is the analysis you promised us? On April 17 2011 10:57 Vain wrote: Well, there it goes. In a few minutes senj will be no more. If he flips over and turns out to be red i'm gonna eat my hat, Serously Oh my god, it's almost like he knows it for sure! On April 17 2011 11:17 Vain wrote: I just want to take this moment and mourn for our departed senj, who turned out to be a town. This death will have an huge impact on us and the game. The rest of this post i will dedicate to our beloved senj. Think of all the moments he was with us and the time we spent together. I still remember the first time i saw him. He was never much of a talker, but he always told me he tried so hard to change.. Sadly, he fell back in his old behaviour and he spoke to the public only one more time After that it was only a matter of time until dark clouds rose above his head. Maybe he wanted to talk but couldn't find a way to express himself. Maybe he searched for words but could never find them. Maybe something else, but we will never know now because our beloved senj is dead  Huge spam! Also no need to praise Senj when he screw town over. On April 17 2011 11:18 Vain wrote: P.s. This also means no hat-eating will be done tonight! More useless posting / jokes. On April 17 2011 22:06 Vain wrote: Well, it think we should use all time possible to uncover maffia to prevent misses like senj. Yes he wasn't very active but he was a town as expected. We have a limited number of chances to get it right and sadly we had to lynch an inactive towny. As for being affraid that the maffia gets too much information you'll have to understand one thing perfectly. The maffia already knows who is town and is maffia. There is not much more to know for them. Sure we and the mafia do not know if there is a DT and/or a Doctor but they do not have to uncover themself if they do not want to. We can use all the information there is. The mafia already has all the info and sure as hell aren't gonna lynch one of their own at this moment. Completelly useless contentless post stating the obvious. On April 18 2011 02:48 Vain wrote: I would also like to point out how the voting went. This is some actual data we can use and not up for debate. But as always it is up for intepretation of us. It could very well be that one of the persons voted for we're scum and the mafia influenced the vote. There has been some swing in vote's which i find very suspicous. This is how the vote looked 10 hours before closing + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2011 00:38 chaoser wrote: Yes they do get modkilled shcoleosis: 2 Vain Zorkmid Zorkmid: 1 Forumite Senj: 2 sandroba Varpulis elmizzit: 1 Eternalmisfit shcoleosis to be lynched on account of getting to 2 votes first People who haven't voted yet: Shcoleosis, elmizzit, senj 10 hours and 25 minutes remaining till the end of day And here the final vote: So in a summarry. shcoleosis lost one vote on her senj gained SIX votes and Elmizzt lost one. We can conclude from this that there is some serous bandwagoning going on here and maby some influence of the mafia. Keep in mind that there are not one but two mafia members influencing the votes and that we can be sure that 2 of the votes are mafia ones. The mafia makes up already 25% of our population so do not rule out mafia influence out of this vote. For me this is the first huge scum tell. Of course everybody voted for senj because he didn't vote, didn't post anything and was going to get modkilled. This post is largely useless and stating the obvious except for one thing. To point out how he did not bandwagon on the senj vote and that mafia would clearly bandwagon. On April 18 2011 03:08 Vain wrote: Disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing is? we could discuss over that and i could try to defend myself which is not advised in a game of mafia so fuck that. Btw didnt anyone notice the vote swing at the last moment or did everyone just stop caring? Defending himself and trying to mislead town towards the useless chart he posted. As I stated it was in the best interest of town lynching the guy who was getting modkilled. [i]"Look at the vote swings guys, your clues are there, I swear!" On April 18 2011 04:11 Vain wrote: VarpuliS, did you read the guides that were reccomended? Useless question. You probably read the guide and you know the way you have been posting is not good town play. On April 18 2011 14:41 Vain wrote: If you didnt get a pm like "you were saved" or something you can be pretty sure you were not a target Stating the obvious. On April 18 2011 14:51 Vain wrote: Omg, How could you NOT like my necrology of senj Spam On April 18 2011 19:25 Vain wrote: It is not an obvious way to appear more town. If you claimed you were saved like you are now and someone else also would claim that one of you would be lying. That would couse suspicion on both of the claimers and probably would get one of you killed. Now if your claim is correct it would mean you were town(i really do not think you tried to kill yourself) And this would also mean VarpuliS would be in the clear. The reasoning behind this would be that if you would be killed while you were clearly suspecting Varpulis then VarpuliS would be drawing unnecessary suspicion on him. Also i still suspect scholeosis because with you AND VarpuliS gone there would be 6 people left. Night kill would mean a townie kill and then the maffia only would have only to persuade one person to win the game. With the leading accuser for scholeosis gone this would be an excellent position for scholeosis to be in. I could also be missing some connections. We now have to figure out who would have a reasonal benefit of you (and Varpulis) gone This post is a gem. Forumite never said he was saved. But Vain is sure he was. He procedes with his reasoning for why killing forumite would lead us to lynch scholeosis. Alright so now I will state why we shouldn't lynch scholeosis. Forumite for the time being is the only comfirmed townie (unless the medic claims he didn't save forumite, in which case you should claim so we can trade you for forumite and scholeosis) and the only one who has defended scholeosis so far. The mafia did not know Senj wasn't going to show up, so someone would come to his defense. Everyone and their mother were suspicious of scholeosis at this point so it's very unlikely he's mafia. I advise scholeosis to step up your game if you are indeed not mafia, because I was 100% sure you were at some point.[/b] | ||
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