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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 18 2011 02:15 GMT
#301
PROOF: Noone died, so we must have a doctor.

Possibles:
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 1 Mafia Goon, 5 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective
2 Mafia Goon, 1 Medic, 6 Town.

There is nothing (except maybe Sandroba) that says we have a detective or roleblocker in the game. The only thing we KNOW is that there is a Medic, and he was spot on. I don´t see much point in lying about being roleblocked, except to try to look more Town, but I´m still taking Sandrobas comment with a grain of salt.

mmm, salt...
:3
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 18 2011 02:15 GMT
#302
I haven't claimed anything, I said I was roleblocked. But since no one died and I was roleblocked, I assume that there's indeed a medic and a dt.
Can mafia choose not to kill anyone?
Even if they can It would be a dumb move not to kill anyone, so this scenario is extremely more likely.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 18 2011 02:18 GMT
#303
On April 18 2011 11:15 sandroba wrote:
Can mafia choose not to kill anyone?


Yes, they can
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 18 2011 02:19 GMT
#304
Ah, my bad. I even asked earlier on whether a roleblocked townie was told, I just forgot!

So I get the feeling that either myself or Varp was the target last night.

Any thoughts?


sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 18 2011 02:22 GMT
#305
Let me post my thoughts:
Vote: scholeosis
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 18 2011 02:22 GMT
#306
ebwodp:
##Vote: scholeosis
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 18 2011 02:38 GMT
#307
So, why voting so early, don't we have 48hrs?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 18 2011 02:58 GMT
#308
Well, based on previous information I'm pretty convinced with this assesment, and it makes even more sense that I was roleblocked since I was the first one to come up with analysis on scholeosis. In my eyes there's no way in hell scholeosis could be town att this point.
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 05:41 GMT
#309
On April 18 2011 11:19 Zorkmid wrote:
Ah, my bad. I even asked earlier on whether a roleblocked townie was told, I just forgot!

So I get the feeling that either myself or Varp was the target last night.

Any thoughts?




Medic
You have the power to save lives. Once per night you can watch a player. If your target is attacked, you will block one hit aimed at them. If you make a successful save, both you and your target will be notified of the save. You cannot save yourself.


If you didnt get a pm like "you were saved" or something you can be pretty sure you were not a target
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 05:51 GMT
#310
On April 18 2011 10:54 sandroba wrote:
3. Vain - If for some miracle either of these guys aren't mafia I would take a closer look at this person. All his posts so far have been useless constation of the obvious, questions or fluff posts, none with any content whatsoever. Also he doesn't seem to mind that senj screwed town over and makes a useless post praising our "beloved" useless townie. elmizzt finds it amusing.


Omg, How could you NOT like my necrology of senj
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 18 2011 08:55 GMT
#311
I have to say I am extremely puzzled by the night actions. What we know for sure:

1. No one died - This implies that either we have a medic or mafia choose not to kill anyone.

Now, it would seem more likely that we have a medic but 6/8 people have posted and no one has claimed being saved yet. This mean that either Elmizzt or Shcoleosis are town and were saved (in which case they would claim being saved sometime tomorrow).

What is likely based on claims:

Sandroba was role-blocked. Now, I won't take the claim at face-value since it is still possibility that Sandroba is scum and is lying. But, at this point, it is highly likely that he is town as I don't see any benefits of lying as mafia this early in the game as he has painted a big lynch target on himself if people get even a small clue of him being lying.

Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 18 2011 09:12 GMT
#312
We know that we have a medic, but we have no idea who it is, nor who was saved. Going out with something like this doesn´t really serve a point, so we can´t identify who it was either.

Look, if I was marked for a night-kill and saved, then the Mafia knows it, the Medic knows it, but there is no way I can prove this to any others without possibly endangering the Medic, and that´s something we don´t want to do.

Like Sandroba saying "I´m roleblocked", it doesn´t give us any info, except that IF someone else was roleblocked then that person only can be quite sure that Sandroba is Scum, but haven´t got a way to expose him.

Would you take my word for it if I said I was marked for death but saved by the Medic, when it´s such an obvious way to appear more Town?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 18 2011 09:21 GMT
#313
Right now I´m suspicious of those who don´t contribute anything, not even aiding or defending those marked for Lynching, just sitting by, silent.

FoS Elmizzt
FoS Vain
:3
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 10:25 GMT
#314
On April 18 2011 18:12 Forumite wrote:
We know that we have a medic, but we have no idea who it is, nor who was saved. Going out with something like this doesn´t really serve a point, so we can´t identify who it was either.

Look, if I was marked for a night-kill and saved, then the Mafia knows it, the Medic knows it, but there is no way I can prove this to any others without possibly endangering the Medic, and that´s something we don´t want to do.

Like Sandroba saying "I´m roleblocked", it doesn´t give us any info, except that IF someone else was roleblocked then that person only can be quite sure that Sandroba is Scum, but haven´t got a way to expose him.

Would you take my word for it if I said I was marked for death but saved by the Medic, when it´s such an obvious way to appear more Town?


It is not an obvious way to appear more town. If you claimed you were saved like you are now and someone else also would claim that one of you would be lying. That would couse suspicion on both of the claimers and probably would get one of you killed.

Now if your claim is correct it would mean you were town(i really do not think you tried to kill yourself)
And this would also mean VarpuliS would be in the clear. The reasoning behind this would be that if you would be killed while you were clearly suspecting Varpulis then VarpuliS would be drawing unnecessary suspicion on him. Also i still suspect scholeosis because with you AND VarpuliS gone there would be 6 people left. Night kill would mean a townie kill and then the maffia only would have only to persuade one person to win the game. With the leading accuser for scholeosis gone this would be an excellent position for scholeosis to be in. I could also be missing some connections. We now have to figure out who would have a reasonal benefit of you (and Varpulis) gone
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 10:29 GMT
#315
Btw why didnt you say you were saved in the first post?

Did it take you some time to discover the pm?
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 18 2011 11:06 GMT
#316
On April 18 2011 19:25 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 18:12 Forumite wrote:
We know that we have a medic, but we have no idea who it is, nor who was saved. Going out with something like this doesn´t really serve a point, so we can´t identify who it was either.

Look, if I was marked for a night-kill and saved, then the Mafia knows it, the Medic knows it, but there is no way I can prove this to any others without possibly endangering the Medic, and that´s something we don´t want to do.

Like Sandroba saying "I´m roleblocked", it doesn´t give us any info, except that IF someone else was roleblocked then that person only can be quite sure that Sandroba is Scum, but haven´t got a way to expose him.

Would you take my word for it if I said I was marked for death but saved by the Medic, when it´s such an obvious way to appear more Town?


It is not an obvious way to appear more town. If you claimed you were saved like you are now and someone else also would claim that one of you would be lying. That would couse suspicion on both of the claimers and probably would get one of you killed.

Now if your claim is correct it would mean you were town(i really do not think you tried to kill yourself)
And this would also mean VarpuliS would be in the clear. The reasoning behind this would be that if you would be killed while you were clearly suspecting Varpulis then VarpuliS would be drawing unnecessary suspicion on him. Also i still suspect scholeosis because with you AND VarpuliS gone there would be 6 people left. Night kill would mean a townie kill and then the maffia only would have only to persuade one person to win the game. With the leading accuser for scholeosis gone this would be an excellent position for scholeosis to be in. I could also be missing some connections. We now have to figure out who would have a reasonal benefit of you (and Varpulis) gone


Nowhere in forumite post he claims that the medic saved him, only mafia would know that for sure. Also thank you for uncovering your plan. If you were indeed the target, forumite, it's time for you to say it, so that if no one says otherwise we have no reason to doubt it. There is no point in hiding that info from mafia because saying that you were protected does not reveal the identity of the medic. If someone else got protected and saved, please post it, so we can make some sense out of this.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 18 2011 11:08 GMT
#317
We need to start posting people, let's not wait until we are hard pressed on time.
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 18 2011 11:08 GMT
#318
On April 18 2011 20:06 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 19:25 Vain wrote:
On April 18 2011 18:12 Forumite wrote:
We know that we have a medic, but we have no idea who it is, nor who was saved. Going out with something like this doesn´t really serve a point, so we can´t identify who it was either.

Look, if I was marked for a night-kill and saved, then the Mafia knows it, the Medic knows it, but there is no way I can prove this to any others without possibly endangering the Medic, and that´s something we don´t want to do.

Like Sandroba saying "I´m roleblocked", it doesn´t give us any info, except that IF someone else was roleblocked then that person only can be quite sure that Sandroba is Scum, but haven´t got a way to expose him.

Would you take my word for it if I said I was marked for death but saved by the Medic, when it´s such an obvious way to appear more Town?


It is not an obvious way to appear more town. If you claimed you were saved like you are now and someone else also would claim that one of you would be lying. That would couse suspicion on both of the claimers and probably would get one of you killed.

Now if your claim is correct it would mean you were town(i really do not think you tried to kill yourself)
And this would also mean VarpuliS would be in the clear. The reasoning behind this would be that if you would be killed while you were clearly suspecting Varpulis then VarpuliS would be drawing unnecessary suspicion on him. Also i still suspect scholeosis because with you AND VarpuliS gone there would be 6 people left. Night kill would mean a townie kill and then the maffia only would have only to persuade one person to win the game. With the leading accuser for scholeosis gone this would be an excellent position for scholeosis to be in. I could also be missing some connections. We now have to figure out who would have a reasonal benefit of you (and Varpulis) gone


Nowhere in forumite post he claims that the medic saved him, only mafia would know that for sure. Also thank you for uncovering your plan. If you were indeed the target, forumite, it's time for you to say it, so that if no one says otherwise we have no reason to doubt it. There is no point in hiding that info from mafia because saying that you were protected does not reveal the identity of the medic. If someone else got protected and saved, please post it, so we can make some sense out of this.


How is saying

Would you take my word for it if I said I was marked for death but saved by the Medic, when it´s such an obvious way to appear more Town?


That not claiming for saved by the medic
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 18 2011 11:22 GMT
#319
That's clearly not claiming to be saved by medic.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 18 2011 11:23 GMT
#320
On April 18 2011 18:21 Forumite wrote:
Right now I´m suspicious of those who don´t contribute anything, not even aiding or defending those marked for Lynching, just sitting by, silent.

FoS Elmizzt
FoS Vain


This post seems very strange to me...at this point there isn't really anyone marked for lynching, and I'm more suspicious that someone acting protective towards lynch targets are scummy rather than townie.
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