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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 05 2011 02:45 GMT
#774
On May 05 2011 07:48 Eiii wrote:
Jackal is getting a lot of heat, but I'm pretty convinced he's town-- his play seems similar/identical to how he played in insane 2.

Impervious/Ace are the two active players I think are most suspicious-- I've said why I think ace could be red before, and now looking back on things impervious has moved from thinking ace was red day 1 to completely believing his claim to saying that they 'need to work together'. Ace being kind of sketchy and impervious doing a 180 recently on him smells a lot to me like a CL/sleeper relationship.

obviously bb is suspicious because he's still lurking and not doing anything and that sucks

Ace was sketchy to me as well. I did vote for him to be lynched on the first day, remember? And I was voicing my suspicion on a few occasions early on.

However, a few things have changed my mind.

I initially thought that if there were going to be unlisted roles, either a miller and/or a vet and/or a medic would be likely. We have confirmed that non-listed roles are in the game (miller), so a claim of vet seems likely to be legit. And, with how creative the miller's role was, Ace's claim isn't too farfetched either. I was suspicious of it initially, but with the death of our beloved miller, my suspicion has been eased.

I don't believe Ace just because he said he's some kind of role similar to a DT, I believe him because sandroba claimed vet before Ace actually spelled out his role. It actually makes a lot of sense. And without being able to directly talk with each other, this is a little too elaborate and creative of a plan for the mafia to fake it so quickly.

You, on the other hand, have absolutely nothing going for you. Jackal has looked very scummy, and has a ~50% chance through pure random chance to be red, thanks to the DT check. darmousseh/BB has lurked a lot, which does not help much either. You three are my primary choices for scum, and the fact that you're actually defending Jackal right now doesn't help that imo.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 05 2011 02:53 GMT
#775
Also, when it's likely 4 town vs 3 mafia, of course the town needs to work together..... A divided town is a loss right now.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 05 2011 17:24 GMT
#782
Wiggles? You still alive? What are your thoughts on the situation?
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 03:09 GMT
#821
I'm here.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 03:34 GMT
#823
I'm not sure.....
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 03:46 GMT
#824
Of course, if Eiii doesn't vote, we'll be hitting 2 of the 3 likely scum..... So I don't see that as a bad thing. Unless 1 of them is actually town, in which case, we're basically fucked.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#838
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 04:27 GMT
#843
Ace being cell leader and sandroba being a sleeper was the exact situation I was afraid of. But I figured it was so unlikely :/

gj guys!
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#852
On May 06 2011 13:31 Ace wrote:
@Impervious: You were so close a few times. When bum claimed and you believed him I was like "damn, guess I actually have to work to get this bastard DT lynched"

Tbh, I wasn't too sure he was legit. What I was sure of was that it would have been better to have him alive than dead.

Also, sick move with the roleclaim (you and sandroba).
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 05:01 GMT
#866
On May 06 2011 13:59 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 13:44 bumatlarge wrote:
I think I saved my additional sandroba analysis, I'll try to find it. I'm really angry at zorkmid, but I'm glad he didn't do more harm then he could have. He's going to have to come up with a helluva good reason if he ever wants to play here again, at least in the same game as me.

I raged. I was trying my damnedest to get off of your hook and he comes in and posts that shit.

Why didn't you guys ever lynch me?

I tried to. On multiple occasions.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 15:37 GMT
#879
On May 06 2011 14:56 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 14:31 sandroba wrote:
Sorry jackal, I thought you knew I was mafia and would forgive me for calling you an idiot, because I knew you were mafia too. That was all a farse. I wanted to distance from you as much as possible, so we would have a chance in late game no matter what.

I had no idea. Ace turned my head into mush. I'm just disappointed nobody believed my Ace's role is bullshit claim. I think I had Impervious looking at it for a bit. But in the end everybody chose to believe Ace's unbelievable claim.
I knew it was a bullshit claim and I was scum.


Yea, actually, as soon as Ace claimed I realized it was a possibility. At the same time, it made too much sense. -_-
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 17:07 GMT
#881
It didn't exactly help when you didn't say anything until so late..... The game was pretty much sealed a while ago.....
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 06 2011 22:00 GMT
#886
On May 07 2011 06:45 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 00:37 Impervious wrote:
On May 06 2011 14:56 Jackal58 wrote:
On May 06 2011 14:31 sandroba wrote:
Sorry jackal, I thought you knew I was mafia and would forgive me for calling you an idiot, because I knew you were mafia too. That was all a farse. I wanted to distance from you as much as possible, so we would have a chance in late game no matter what.

I had no idea. Ace turned my head into mush. I'm just disappointed nobody believed my Ace's role is bullshit claim. I think I had Impervious looking at it for a bit. But in the end everybody chose to believe Ace's unbelievable claim.
I knew it was a bullshit claim and I was scum.


Yea, actually, as soon as Ace claimed I realized it was a possibility. At the same time, it made too much sense. -_-

I had the advantage of knowing I voted to kill GGQ (sorry dude) and when he came up dead I knew it wasn't a coincidence. That's when I began to realize I was being left in the dark on purpose.

It was one of those things where everything had to come together for it to work right..... And it did..... And it made the entire town look foolish.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 07 2011 19:33 GMT
#890
I tried to bring up the policy lynch thing pretty early, for that reason. Discussion died out way too quickly, and when it came time to actually lynch Jackal as a policy lynch, the town split..... And I'm pretty sure Ace had some part in derailing that type of discussion.....

I don't think I made any mistakes in this game, based on the info I had, so I'm pretty happy. Sucks that it turned into such a one-sided affair.....
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 07 2011 19:51 GMT
#892
Ace took a massive gamble with his fake claim, and it paid off. If there was actually a vet in the game, well, things would have turned out a lot differently.

Depending on who claimed vet, I was actually going to counterclaim their vet claim, and play for the lynch of Ace and whoever it was. Sandroba was one of the people I had a town reading of at the time, and when he claimed Vet, I was far more certain that both were legit claims than fake claims. It was a brilliant play, and it worked out really, really well.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 07 2011 19:56 GMT
#894
Yea, except it could have helped seal your fates earlier. I was positive you and Jackal were scum early on, I just couldn't find a way to convince anyone else..... That would have given me at least something to work with.

And, if it failed, well, we just proved that we would have lost anyways, so what would it have mattered?
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 07 2011 19:57 GMT
#895
I wouldn't have pushed for your lynch, I would have pushed for sandroba's lynch instead. I could easily argue that the worst case scenario of him telling the truth would be a lynch of a townie rather than a vet, and we would confirm the undercover agent role at the same time.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 07 2011 20:00 GMT
#897
well, not sandroba specifically, but whoever claimed it instead of you.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 07 2011 20:03 GMT
#899
The death of GGQ was what really helped sell your role though. It relied on sandroba claiming vet (or at least someone who appeared to be town friendly, but who was actually the 3rd mafia).

Your role had a bunch of holes in it, and sandroba's claim was essentially ripped off of another mafia game (I had a writeup and name of the role ready, that was related to the game at hand), and without the actual death of GGQ, I wouldn't have bought it. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 07 2011 20:04 GMT
#900
The worst case scenario of lynching sandroba (if I counterclaimed) would be that his hit is gone, so he's essentially a normal townie. By lynching him, we get to determine if you were lying and are red, or if you were telling the truth and are blue. It's a pretty solid policy lynch, because we could determine it without actually having to kill you.
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